# Game of Thrones 2.09 "Blackwater" 5/27/12 No Book Spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 27, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-09-blackwater-5-27-12-no-book-spoilers/623266 "2012-05-27T18:36:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-09-blackwater-5-27-12-no-book-spoilers/623266/181 "2012-05-30T20:52:44Z")
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**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-09-blackwater-5-27-12-no-book-spoilers/623266/182 "2012-05-30T20:57:09Z")
Boo! Try this: [http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny\_pictures/3696700/Hodor/](http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/3696700/Hodor/) ---
**Author:** ![SecretaryofEvil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SecretaryofEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecretaryofEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-09-blackwater-5-27-12-no-book-spoilers/623266/183 "2012-05-30T22:01:52Z")
Has anybody seen the trailer that portrays Game of Thrones as a buddy comedy starring Tyrion and Bronn? It’s hilarious. > **[Watch the Trailer for the Buddy Comedy Version of Game of Thrones](https://www.vulture.com/2011/06/is_game_of_thrones_considering.html)** > > They'll have to get along. Even if it kills them. ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-09-blackwater-5-27-12-no-book-spoilers/623266/184 "2012-05-30T22:07:12Z")
> [@SecretaryofEvil](#): > > Has anybody seen the trailer that portrays Game of Thrones as a buddy comedy starring Tyrion and Bronn? It’s hilarious. > > [Watch the Trailer for the Buddy Comedy Version of Game of Thrones](http://www.vulture.com/2011/06/is_game_of_thrones_considering.html) :p:p:p ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-09-blackwater-5-27-12-no-book-spoilers/623266/185 "2012-05-30T22:27:03Z")
As long as we’re posting GoT related funnies, [this one](http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/116975-Game-of-Thrones-Characters-Compared-to-U-S-Political-Figures) comparing the characters to political figures is pretty hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-09-blackwater-5-27-12-no-book-spoilers/623266/186 "2012-05-30T23:36:59Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > As long as we’re posting GoT related funnies, [this one](http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/116975-Game-of-Thrones-Characters-Compared-to-U-S-Political-Figures) comparing the characters to political figures is pretty hilarious. I was lukewarm on it until the last line, then it became genius. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2012, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-09-blackwater-5-27-12-no-book-spoilers/623266/187 "2012-05-30T23:57:10Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > I was lukewarm on it until the last line, then it became genius. 🙂 Strange. I went back in order to recall what the last line was, and the image was gone. If that’s also happening for anyone else, [here’s the original source.](http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/04/26/what-if-game-of-thrones-characters-were-presidential-candidates/) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-09-blackwater-5-27-12-no-book-spoilers/623266/188 "2012-05-31T01:42:40Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > I was lukewarm on it until the last line, then it became genius. 🙂 Ditto. THAT was when I laughed. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-09-blackwater-5-27-12-no-book-spoilers/623266/189 "2012-05-31T04:55:22Z")
> [@SecretaryofEvil](#): > > Has anybody seen the trailer that portrays Game of Thrones as a buddy comedy starring Tyrion and Bronn? It’s hilarious. > > [Watch the Trailer for the Buddy Comedy Version of Game of Thrones](http://www.vulture.com/2011/06/is_game_of_thrones_considering.html) The auto-play stuff that comes after is pretty good, too. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-09-blackwater-5-27-12-no-book-spoilers/623266/190 "2012-05-31T16:14:38Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Ah, so ravens are like trains or flights – they go back and forth between two fixed points? So you have to find the King’s Landing-bound raven? I should imagine that there are some destinations that are so popular that, for example, you have to constantly distribute King’s Landing-bound ravens throughout the land. By horse-drawn cart? I wonder – is raven delivery a for-profit privately supplied service or is it the king’s obligation? I don’t think they go back and forth, just home. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-09-blackwater-5-27-12-no-book-spoilers/623266/191 "2012-05-31T16:51:39Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > I don’t think they go back and forth, just home. So, the raven stocking service is even more important. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-09-blackwater-5-27-12-no-book-spoilers/623266/192 "2012-05-31T17:32:53Z")
Yeah, if they only work one way, then someone has to schlep all them ravens back home. Must cost a mint in gas money. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-09-blackwater-5-27-12-no-book-spoilers/623266/193 "2012-05-31T18:41:44Z")
Good point. In peacetime, there must be a regular system for ravens to be traded among various castles and forts, restocking the supply of those which have already flown to, say, King’s Landing or Pyke. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-09-blackwater-5-27-12-no-book-spoilers/623266/194 "2012-05-31T21:09:59Z")
Re: the ravens, I’m not looking for a spoiler here, but aren’t the ravens regarded as smarter than we’re giving them credit for? They’re not necessarily just like simple homing pigeons, and there may even be some sort of magical aspect to them. Even barring any magic, as long as they’re slightly smarter than homing pigeons, there’s no reason they can’t have two homes, instead of just one. If they know they get fed regularly and have a comfortable roost at both locations, then you remove them from the roost and food at one location, they just simply go to the other place where they know they’ll find those things. It’s not very far-fetched to believe this would work in a land of dragons and shadow-babies, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-09-blackwater-5-27-12-no-book-spoilers/623266/195 "2012-05-31T21:18:08Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > If they know they get fed regularly and have a comfortable roost at both locations, then you remove them from the roost and food at one location, they just simply go to the other place where they know they’ll find those things. It’s not very far-fetched to believe this would work in a land of dragons and shadow-babies, etc. Eh. Actually, I think that would be a problem. The general rule with science fiction and fantasy is that you can certainly get the audience to suspend disbelief for the fantastical elements, but people get yanked out of the story when real-world things don’t work the way they’re supposed to. Dragons are fine - but if you’ve got an otherwise normal bird, presented as a normal bird, doing things that a bird can’t normally do, you’ve got a problem. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-09-blackwater-5-27-12-no-book-spoilers/623266/196 "2012-05-31T21:30:11Z")
But haven’t there been (admittedly, tiny) hints to a mystical element with the ravens? I vaguely remember Bran dreaming about a raven and talking about the one with three eyes. It may be nothing, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that was foreshadowing something about the ravens that we’ll find out later. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-09-blackwater-5-27-12-no-book-spoilers/623266/197 "2012-05-31T21:30:13Z")
> [@Mr.Excellent](#): > > people get yanked out of the story when real-world things don’t work the way they’re supposed to. You mean like when a single summer lasts for 15 years? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![kombatminipig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5ac83/32.png) [@kombatminipig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kombatminipig)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-09-blackwater-5-27-12-no-book-spoilers/623266/198 "2012-06-01T06:39:03Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Good point. In peacetime, there must be a regular system for ravens to be traded among various castles and forts, restocking the supply of those which have already flown to, say, King’s Landing or Pyke. This was the general way carrier pigeons were used, transporting them en masse from their roost to whomever you wished to communicate with. As it’s been told in the show, Maesters are a bit of a group to themselves, studying in some sort of college and being loyal to their keeps rather to whomever happens to hold it. This is obviously an integral part of the system, as they’re basically the backbone of a communications network. ---
**Author:** ![Sarabellum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarabellum/32/3492_2.png) [@Sarabellum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarabellum)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-09-blackwater-5-27-12-no-book-spoilers/623266/199 "2012-06-01T20:09:10Z")
Is it Sunday yet!?! I am like a silly little kid when it comes to this show. I’m already planning myself a series “re-watching” from the beginning when this season is over, because otherwise I’m going to go into withdrawals. 🙂 Sunday night rolls around and I’m hustling and bustling to get the kids in bed, the dishes done, and at 5 minutes til 9 I’m racing for my recliner to get my weekly fix. They had better not cancel this show. It needs to run for like 20 seasons. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-09-blackwater-5-27-12-no-book-spoilers/623266/200 "2012-06-01T20:14:07Z")
It’s gonna need to run for like 20 seasons if they have to wait for Martin to finish writing the series. I don’t see why they would cancel it though, it seems to be doing incredibly well in both ratings and accolades. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-09-blackwater-5-27-12-no-book-spoilers/623266.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-2-09-blackwater-5-27-12-no-book-spoilers/623266.md?page=11)