# Game of Thrones 3.03 "Walk of Punishment" 4/14/13 No Book Spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 14, 2013, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719 "2013-04-14T21:45:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/41 "2013-04-15T19:28:16Z")
I didn’t think the returned gold was a test, I assumed it was Littlefinger doing a favor for Tyrion with the assumption he will get repaid in kind in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/42 "2013-04-15T21:22:29Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Not really, 90% of the whore content is pure HBO. _Deadwood_, _Rome_, _Boardwalk Empire_, _Game of Thrones_… HBO must have more casting calls for whores in a decade than Nevada has had in a century. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/43 "2013-04-15T21:54:52Z")
Sopranos had more than a few whores too. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/44 "2013-04-15T22:34:53Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Well, the OP says, “This is the episode discussion thread that pretends the books don’t exist.” And as my post said, “this has nothing to do with the plot, merely a bit of background detail.” I’m presuming my question does not reveal who will be losing limbs and heads in future episodes. If it does … that’s weird. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/45 "2013-04-15T22:35:55Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Not really, 90% of the whore content is pure HBO. Well, how else would you handle the exposition but with naked whore characters? Is it done differently in other films? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/46 "2013-04-15T23:20:41Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > The bear and the maiden fair, it was the song the brotherhood guys or the Bolton guys were singing during the episode, I can’t remember which. A punk version though, which was kinda odd actually. When that song came on _ **right** _ after the amputation, I thought I had accidentally changed the channel on my remote for a few seconds there until I realized that was the same song. Cut the hand, cut to black. [Here’s the 3x03 scenes on youtube.](http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXMWkUUXTwE13oR5CoorIY_sKjSnVLwt7&feature=playlist-comment) ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/47 "2013-04-16T03:08:55Z")
Which is the first clip? ---
**Author:** ![Monkey\_Chews](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@Monkey\_Chews](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monkey_Chews)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/48 "2013-04-16T03:50:39Z")
What a fantastic episode. This show is firing on all cylinders this season. I’ve been gripped for every second. And that ending… wow. (Once again a big thank you to all the book readers for not giving away - or even hinting - that that was going to happen.) It’s scenes like that one that make me glad I’m watching the TV show before reading the books. I’ve been reading each book after each season, and was tempted to keep going after I finished book 2, but I’m so glad I’m experiencing the show this way. But the entire hour was packed with killer moments. The small council scene with the chairs was hysterical. Every second with Brienne and Jaime was gold. Dany was a total bad ass - and you just know she is not giving up one of her dragons that easily. > [@AuntiePam](#): > > I can totally see the whores having fun with a good-looking young man. Having fun? Maaaaaybe. Not getting paid? Not a chance. One way or another, they (and their owners) were paid. > [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > It’s mentioned in this episode that “whores never return gold,” but I had the impression that the whores in the bordello were not paid, or were paid a mere fraction of what they earned, that they were little better than slaves. Which is why they would never return the money. For a start, it’s not like they would earn much. And a fraction of something is still better than nothing. But mostly, it’s not theirs to keep. It would go mostly to Littlefinger. He’d be the only person who could refuse the payment (and even then he would probably have to throw the girls a coin out of his own pocket). And if that had happened, Tyrion would know it was him refusing his payment, and probably be worried. I had assumed it was set up by Tyrion as part of his gift to Pod, just to make him feel good, but it hadn’t occurred to me it might also be a test of his loyalty. > [@SenorBeef](#): > > I was sad to see Gilly back on our show. Sam and Gilly are by far the most boring characters and I dread wasting screen time on them. More boring than Stannis? Is that possible? > [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#): > > I laughed really hard at Melisandre’s expression when Stannis said so ardently, “Nevermind the shadow baby, I just want to bone you so hard,” (paraphrased), and her face was so eloquently, “Aww, hey . . . buddy . . . I really value your [del]friendship[/del] prophesied role as avatar of my god.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/49 "2013-04-16T04:06:01Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > I think Tyrion also did that to see just how trustworthy Pod was. Pod gave him the money back rather than pocketing it, after all. If that wasn’t Tyrion’s intent, the knowledge he gained from it was still a nice side effect. I agree, loyalty test. If it was just to boost his confidence Tyrion wouldn’t have overdone it that much. > [@AuntiePam](#): > > Why does Pod getting laid for free have to be a setup? I can totally see the whores having fun with a good-looking young man. I thought it was done for some comic relief, in an otherwise dark episode. Pod’s lucky he’s young and has a short refractory period since I doubt those girls would be able to get his pants off before he finished. It might have made for a funny story for the girls to tell later, but there’s absolutely no way they’d have done it for free. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/50 "2013-04-16T04:16:21Z")
> [@Monkey\_Chews](#): > > I had assumed it was set up by Tyrion as part of his gift to Pod, just to make him feel good, but it hadn’t occurred to me it might also be a test of his loyalty. I didn’t even think of this. This is a great idea. He paid for them earlier and told them to refuse Pod’s “payment” to make Pod feel like a boss. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/51 "2013-04-16T04:20:11Z")
> [@Monkey\_Chews](#): > > More boring than Stannis? Is that possible? Stannis isn’t boring. Or at least his storyline isn’t boring. But lovestruck doofus tries to woo shy girl with overly strict father and no personality, ugh. Sam’s character might work if he were smart but awkward but he just seems like an awkward dumbass most of the time. Having him pine for the most boring girl in the world just brings the whole thing to a screeching halt. In fact pretty much everything north of the wall is really boring. I understand it’s a significant part of the plot, but there are hardly any likable scenes or characters. ---
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/52 "2013-04-16T13:48:39Z")
I think the problem is that the stakes/consequences of Sam and whatever little side errand he champions is trivial. Compound that with a bland character that you don’t really want to root for makes for a boring viewing experience. It’d be the same if they devoted as much screen time to Hot Pie. Plus people who don’t like the North’s stories are clearly harboring a bourgeoise southern bias. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/53 "2013-04-16T13:55:15Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > I agree, loyalty test. If it was just to boost his confidence Tyrion wouldn’t have overdone it that much. > > Pod’s lucky he’s young and has a short refractory period since I doubt those girls would be able to get his pants off before he finished. It might have made for a funny story for the girls to tell later, but there’s absolutely no way they’d have done it for free. I’m scared, guys. What if the writers just fucked this one up? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/54 "2013-04-16T14:01:41Z")
> [@Minnie\_Luna](#): > > > [@AuntiePam](#): > > > > Why does Pod getting laid for free have to be a setup? I can totally see the whores having fun with a good-looking young man. I thought it was done for some comic relief, in an otherwise dark episode. > > Tyrion has few people he can trust. Even though Pod saved his life, I can see him setting up the situation to see if he can really trust Pod and how far that trust goes. It doesn’t make sense for that to have been a loyalty test. If you assume that Pod is an enemy agent, why would he keep the few coins in that pouch and thereby reveal his disloyalty? And I doubt that they’re ever going to revisit that event, so I doubt they’re going to make it clear that it was a setup on the part of Tyrion. So we have to accept the story as presented; that Pod was just that good in bed (although that’s hard to believe about a first-timer). ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/55 "2013-04-16T14:03:35Z")
The idea isn’t that Tyrion thinks he might be an enemy agent, but that Tyrion wants to see whether Pod can be trusted. If Pod hadn’t returned the money, thinking Tyrion would never know, then this would show Pod can’t really be trusted. ---
**Author:** ![LVBoPeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/858c86/32.png) [@LVBoPeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LVBoPeep)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/56 "2013-04-16T14:06:31Z")
Didn’t Pod already show he could be trusted by saving Tyrion’s life? I thought Littlefinger probably wouldn’t take the money. My question is why did Arya ask the Hound if he remembered the last time he was there? Was that suppose to be the same place the butcher’s boy was killed when they were on the road? ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/57 "2013-04-16T14:20:30Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Why does Pod getting laid for free have to be a setup? I can totally see the whores having fun with a good-looking young man. I thought it was done for some comic relief, in an otherwise dark episode. Because too many people like to overthink every little thing. I would be extremely surprised if the whores not accepting payment and Tyrion and Bronn’s WTF look of astonishment as anything more than a bit of comic relief. Or the other possibility is that he didn’t actually go through with it for some reason or another. That actually seems more reasonible given how nervous Pod acted. And that would presume that Pod has some reason that actually matters to the story. But I highly doubt that Tyrion is testing his squire to see if he returns a bag of coins that was supposed to be spent on whores that Tyrion wouldn’t even miss in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/58 "2013-04-16T14:31:07Z")
I think we are really overanalizing a bit of comic relief. ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/59 "2013-04-16T14:40:46Z")
> [@LVBoPeep](#): > > My question is why did Arya ask the Hound if he remembered the last time he was there? Was that suppose to be the same place the butcher’s boy was killed when they were on the road? Yes, it was the same place where the Hound killed the butcher’s boy. Or at least that’s my understanding of the scene - I can’t think of anything else that Arya could have been referring to. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/60 "2013-04-16T14:46:43Z")
> [@Shakester](#): > > Yes, it was the same place where the Hound killed the butcher’s boy. Or at least that’s my understanding of the scene - I can’t think of anything else that Arya could have been referring to. Wait a minute. The butchers boy was killed near King’s Landing. Then Arya travelled to Harrenhal, escaped and was travelling north to find Robb. Why would she be back near Kings Landing? I don’t think it is the same place. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719.md?page=4)