# Game of Thrones 3.03 "Walk of Punishment" 4/14/13 No Book Spoilers

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**Created:** [April 14, 2013, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719 "2013-04-14T21:45:24Z")\
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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Wait a minute. The butchers boy was killed near King’s Landing. Then Arya travelled to Harrenhal, escaped and was travelling north to find Robb. Why would she be back near Kings Landing? I don’t think it is the same place.

The butcher’s boy who Arya was sparring with by the riverside, not the boy that Arya accidentally ran through with Needle during her escape from King’s Landing. This was during the Starks’ trip from Winterfell to King’s Landing with King Robert’s entourage, during the beginning of Season 1. It’s what started the whole mess with Sansa’s direwolf being killed.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/62 "2013-04-16T14:58:27Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> The butcher’s boy who Arya was sparring with by the riverside, not the boy that Arya accidentally ran through with Needle during her escape from King’s Landing.

Right. The butcher’s boy, who Joffrey was bullying when Arya’s dire wolf bit his arm. Near King’s Landing.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/63 "2013-04-16T15:02:50Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> This was during the Starks’ trip from Winterfell to King’s Landing with King Robert’s entourage, during the beginning of Season 1. It’s what started the whole mess with Sansa’s direwolf being killed.

Ah. I forgot about the trip from Winterfell.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/64 "2013-04-16T15:05:24Z")

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On the way to kings landing, not near. You know, I’ve read the books a buncha times but it wasn’t until hearing out loud that I realized how dirty that song is.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/65 "2013-04-16T15:37:00Z")

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Random thought: I think Bronn is my favorite character and I really love the Tyrion/Bronn bromance. Which probably means next episode Bronn will stab him in the back for a few gold coins or something.

2 of my favorite exchanges:

## Tyrion Lannister: What do you want, Bronn? Gold? Women? Golden women? Stick with me and you’ll have them all, for as long as I’m around and not a moment longer. But you knew that. That is why you so valiantly took up arms to defend my honor. Bronn: Fair enough. But don’t go looking for me to bend the knee and “m’lord” you every time you take a shit. I’m not your toady and I’m not your friend. Tyrion Lannister: Though I would treasure your friendship, I’m mainly interested in your facility with murder. And if the day ever comes when you’re tempted to sell me out, remember this: whatever their price, I’ll beat it. I like living.

Bronn: Don’t get killed.  
Tyrion Lannister: Nor you, my friend.  
Bronn: Oh… are we friends now?  
Tyrion Lannister: Of course we are. Just because I pay you for your services doesn’t diminish our friendship.  
Bronn: Enhances it, really.  
Tyrion Lannister: Oh, “enhances”. Fancy word for a sellsword.  
Bronn: Been spending time with fancy folks.

I would watch 24 episodes a year until the end of time of the adventures of Tyrion and Bronn.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/66 "2013-04-16T15:43:37Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> I would watch 24 episodes a year until the end of time of the adventures of Tyrion and Bronn.

Which is probably why Pod is being groomed as Tyrion’s new BFF. Just sayin’.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/67 "2013-04-16T15:50:19Z")

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Pod is nowhere near as fun as Bronn.

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/68 "2013-04-16T15:57:20Z")

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For the “Pod gets served for free” bit, I thought it was pretty clear, based on the preceding scene in which Littlefinger described the debt he owed to Tyrion, that this was Littlefinger’s doing- paying his own debt to Tyrion by paying for Tyrion’s debt to Podrick.

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/69 "2013-04-16T16:33:43Z")

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> [@pancakes3](#):
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> Plus people who don’t like the North’s stories are clearly harboring a bourgeoise southern bias.

I like the North stories but I hate that those guys don’t wear anything on their heads. I suppose if they did, we wouldn’t be able to tell them apart. But it’s cold! Wear a hat!

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/70 "2013-04-16T16:36:41Z")

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They wear big manly beards, what more could a man need.

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/71 "2013-04-16T16:37:59Z")

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> [@AuntiePam](#):
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> I like the North stories but I hate that those guys don’t wear anything on their heads.

I noticed that too.

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/72 "2013-04-16T16:56:57Z")

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The crows are hatless but it looks like the wildlings are hooded.

> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Ah. I forgot about the trip from Winterfell.

I think you mean winterhell?

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/73 "2013-04-16T18:04:32Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> For the “Pod gets served for free” bit, I thought it was pretty clear, based on the preceding scene in which Littlefinger described the debt he owed to Tyrion, that this was Littlefinger’s doing- paying his own debt to Tyrion by paying for Tyrion’s debt to Podrick.

I can’t imagine a debt between Tyrion and Littlefinger amounting to a small purse of gold coins on par with what you’d pay three prostitutes off with.

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/74 "2013-04-16T18:30:28Z")

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I guess I am the only one who has some sympathy for Theon. Let’s not forget what his life has been. He was taken from his family and his home by the Stark’s as a ward and a hostage. While the Starks treated him reasonably well he was also well aware of his place. When he was finally allowed to return to his father he was treated like shit, made to feel unwanted.

Now let me be clear he is not a saint or worthy of considerable sympathy, but he is not simply a bad guy in my mind.

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/75 "2013-04-16T18:34:10Z")

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Killed two children, not a bad guy. If he had raped them first would that make him a bad guy?

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> I was sad to see Gilly back on our show. Sam and Gilly are by far the most boring characters and I dread wasting screen time on them.

Yes, I hate Sam and Gilly. Speaking as a fat man, I am continually embarrassed at how pathetic Sam is mentally and emotionally. Bleargh.

> [@Joey\_Tightlips](#):
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> So, evidently it’s a “one-time-use” demon? That’s ok I guess, I just want to understand the rules. Sounds like there’s more to come on this storyline.

I don’t think there are any explicit rules, but the conversation seemed to suggest that a man has got to have a bit of fire in him and whatever Stannis had has been used up.

> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#):
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> I laughed really hard at Melisandre’s expression when Stannis said so ardently, “Nevermind the shadow baby, I just want to bone you so hard,” (paraphrased), and her face was so eloquently, “Aww, hey . . . buddy . . . I really value your [del]friendship[/del] prophesied role as avatar of my god.”

Yeah, that was very well done.

> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> They seemed to make a big deal over whether that one lady was having a boy or a girl (it was a boy). Was she just worried that if it were a girl, the lord guy would want to fuck it later? I don’t remember if there was incest type stuff going on in that house or not.

Last season, Jon Snow discovered that Craster was feeding his newborn sons to the White Walkers.

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Killed two children, not a bad guy. If he had raped them first would that make him a bad guy?

I said he was not simply a bad guy, which I stand by. He is not a cardboard cutout, he is a very interesting character. I am not saying you have to like him or cheer for him, but the idea that anyone on the show is clearly good or bad somewhat misses the point.

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/78 "2013-04-16T18:48:06Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> So apparently the U.K. has a generation of Bieber-ized male actors. The actors who play Joffrey, Jojen, and Pod all look 14 but are in fact all in their early 20s.

And Jojen is played by the kid who was Liam Neeson’s stepson in _Love, Actually_! I recognized him immediately.

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> Although it works well, especially for Joffrey who’s now in his third year on the show and has been playing an adolescent for it all; a real adolescent would have changed too much.

Well, the actors playing Arya and Bran have already outgrown their roles.

> [@Monkey\_Chews](#):
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> It’s scenes like that one that make me glad I’m watching the TV show before reading the books. I’ve been reading each book after each season, and was tempted to keep going after I finished book 2, but I’m so glad I’m experiencing the show this way.

I wish I could have kept doing that. But after being accidentally spoiled on several key plot points, I gave up and just read the books.

> [@](#):
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> It would go mostly to Littlefinger. He’d be the only person who could refuse the payment (and even then he would probably have to throw the girls a coin out of his own pocket). And if that had happened, Tyrion would know it was him refusing his payment, and probably be worried.

As others have said, I thought it was clear that Littlefinger did that to repay the debt to Tyrion that they had discussed earlier in the episode.

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> More boring than Stannis? Is that possible?

Stannis’s character has the boring trait, but his storyline isn’t as boring.

> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Wait a minute. The butchers boy was killed near King’s Landing. Then Arya travelled to Harrenhal, escaped and was travelling north to find Robb. Why would she be back near Kings Landing? I don’t think it is the same place.

> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Right. The butcher’s boy, who Joffrey was bullying when Arya’s dire wolf bit his arm. Near King’s Landing.

No, it didn’t happen near King’s Landing. It just happened _on the way to_ King’s Landing.

And the kid that Arya killed when fleeing King’s Landing was a stableboy, not a butcher’s boy.

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**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/79 "2013-04-16T19:29:11Z")

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I think they should rename the show to:

Tyrion and friends - a game of whores.

Everytime that guy comes on the screen, I buckle down for some of the best performances of the episode.

I might have a man crush.

Anyway, I might have missed it, but I only saw people alluding to what happened to Jaime. My bootle— eh, my internet cut out as soon as the stupid audio was replaced by some horrible song.

what happened exactly?

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> No, it didn’t happen near King’s Landing. It just happened _on the way to_ King’s Landing.

So I learned.

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> And the kid that Arya killed when fleeing King’s Landing was a stableboy, not a butcher’s boy.

Yes, I was not talking about the stableboy.

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