# Game of Thrones 3.03 "Walk of Punishment" 4/14/13 No Book Spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 14, 2013, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719 "2013-04-14T21:45:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/81 "2013-04-16T19:43:33Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > I guess I am the only one who has some sympathy for Theon. Let’s not forget what his life has been. He was taken from his family and his home by the Stark’s as a ward and a hostage. While the Starks treated him reasonably well he was also well aware of his place. When he was finally allowed to return to his father he was treated like shit, made to feel unwanted. > > Now let me be clear he is not a saint or worthy of considerable sympathy, but he is not simply a bad guy in my mind. I have sympathy for him too. Someone semi-spoiled in another thread that his story only gets more plaintive as the series goes on. > [@Kinthalis](#): > > Anyway, I might have missed it, but I only saw people alluding to what happened to Jaime. My bootle— eh, my internet cut out as soon as the stupid audio was replaced by some horrible song. > > what happened exactly? He gets unchained from the tree (still in shackles) for promising a reward from both his father as well as Brienne’s father. Offered pheasant at a table (stump of a tree), then abruptly slammed down on the stump. The head guy pulls a good sized knife/scimitar, jams it right close to his eye and essentially tells him that he doesn’t give 2 shits about Jaime’s dad. The head guy starts to walk away and says, “oh, well let this be a reminder to you that your pops isn’t here!” and cuts off Jaime’s right hand. That horrible song was a punk remix of the song that the banner of the flayed man men were singing after capturing Jaime and Brienne. It does seem like the flayed men are still interested in getting a reward from the lannisters and/or Brienne of Tarth’s dad because they didn’t follow through in raping Brienne in the woods. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/82 "2013-04-16T19:48:28Z")
> [@pancakes3](#): > > I have sympathy for him too. Someone semi-spoiled in another thread that his story only gets more plaintive as the series goes on. And now you have in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/83 "2013-04-16T20:01:10Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > I said he was not simply a bad guy, which I stand by. He is not a cardboard cutout, he is a very interesting character. I am not saying you have to like him or cheer for him, but the idea that anyone on the show is clearly good or bad somewhat misses the point. I do agree that he’s not a cardboard cutout, but I don’t think this is the same as saying there’s any appropriate sympathy for his character. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/84 "2013-04-16T20:06:53Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I would watch 24 episodes a year until the end of time of the adventures of Tyrion and Bronn. Something about Bronn’s delivery reminds me of Sergeant Lewis from _Inspector Morse_ ---
**Author:** ![unwashed\_brain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/a9adbd/32.png) [@unwashed\_brain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unwashed_brain)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/85 "2013-04-16T20:34:48Z")
Pretty sure I saw **Brutus** from _Rome_ failing to comprehend Jon Snow’s grand scheme to capture the Mountain. I wonder if **Caesar** and he meet south of the Wall, somewhere near the Rubicon. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/86 "2013-04-16T20:42:52Z")
I haven’t seen anyone mention it here, but in case anyone else was confused about the Gilly timeline: I’ve heard a couple people assume that the baby Jon saw sacrificed was Gilly’s baby, then she got pregnant again, and nine months went by before the crows came back. (One podcaster briefly speculated the “second” baby could be Sam’s!) Actually, the baby Jon saw was another daughter/wife’s, and it’s probably been about 3 months since they were last at Craster’s - Gilly was showing but not near birth when they left for the Fist. As for Sam, I think the implication is that he could be very useful in the right circumstances - he seems bright, inquisitive, and able to retain lots of obscure information. It’s just that he’s in the exact wrong circumstances to allow those talents to shine. And since this show isn’t into standard fantasy tropes like “commoners are the equals of nobility” and “surely there will be a last-minute derring-do rescue for the hero in a tight spot,” it makes sense that they’re also tweaking, “seemingly hopeless but loveable schmo gains super fighting powers via montage” with Sam. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/87 "2013-04-16T20:47:08Z")
One thing I have to say, I have never liked Littlefinger. I love Varys as a slimy schemer, but Littlefinger just icks me out completely. And something about his portrayal just makes him really repulsive. > [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#): > > As for Sam, I think the implication is that he could be very useful in the right circumstances - he seems bright, inquisitive, and able to retain lots of obscure information. It’s just that he’s in the exact wrong circumstances to allow those talents to shine. And since this show isn’t into standard fantasy tropes like “commoners are the equals of nobility” and “surely there will be a last-minute derring-do rescue for the hero in a tight spot,” it makes sense that they’re also tweaking, “seemingly hopeless but loveable schmo gains super fighting powers via montage” with Sam. Oh, definitely, this story is all about destroying fantasy cliches and stereotypes. But Sam still annoys me. Like in the scenes last season after they left Craster’s keep, in which Sam kept mentioning Gilly like some lovestruck puppy. And then now, when he’s so easily discouraged from _running for his life_ by some bullying. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/88 "2013-04-16T20:52:26Z")
> [@LVBoPeep](#): > > My question is why did Arya ask the Hound if he remembered the last time he was there? Was that suppose to be the same place the butcher’s boy was killed when they were on the road? I thought of something else. Was that the same inn where Catelyn seized custody of Tyrion, and then later Tywin showed up and hanged the landlady? ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/89 "2013-04-16T21:00:50Z")
I hope the rest of the gang from Misfits shows up. Told my wife he was able to sneak in and help Theon escape because he can turn invisible. Forgot she didn’t watch Misfits so she thought I was spoilering. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/90 "2013-04-16T21:02:35Z")
> [@pancakes3](#): > > He gets unchained from the tree (still in shackles) for promising a reward from both his father as well as Brienne’s father. So I wonder if Jamie was bullshitting about Brienne being from the “sapphire islands” with a father willing to give a fortune for her safe return. Note that I do not want to be spoilered on this or any other aspect of the show; I’m just idly wondering. ---
**Author:** ![SecretaryofEvil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SecretaryofEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecretaryofEvil)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/91 "2013-04-16T21:06:21Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > I guess I am the only one who has some sympathy for Theon. Let’s not forget what his life has been. He was taken from his family and his home by the Stark’s as a ward and a hostage. While the Starks treated him reasonably well he was also well aware of his place. When he was finally allowed to return to his father he was treated like shit, made to feel unwanted. > [@pancakes3](#): > > I have sympathy for him too. Someone semi-spoiled in another thread that his story only gets more plaintive as the series goes on. > [@EllisDee](#): > > And now you have in this thread. Pff, only if you know what “plaintive” means, college boy. I certainly have pity for Theon. He was stuck in a no win situation. People would have called him a traitor whether he sided with the Starks or with the Greyjoys. Theon’s original plan was actually pretty decent. A Stark-Greyjoy alliance would have served both sides far better than a Stark-Greyjoy war. It’s even a little bit sweet when you think about it. He was trying to bring his adopted family and his biological family together. That doesn’t excuse all the terrible things that Theon did, but that doesn’t mean we can’t both condemn Theon for the bad things he did while simultaneously pitying him for all the bad things that happened to him that drove him to make those decisions. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/92 "2013-04-16T21:09:58Z")
It was a nice continuity nod to hear Jamie talking about how much he hated his daily lessons. Last season Tywin mentioned Jamie being dyslexic (well, he didn’t use the word, but that was the description) and how he forced him to study daily and in retrospect it was some of his favorite time with the boy. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/93 "2013-04-16T21:13:30Z")
> [@Kinthalis](#): > > I think they should rename the show to: > > Tyrion and friends - a game of whores. > > Everytime that guy comes on the screen, I buckle down for some of the best performances of the episode. > > I might have a man crush. Love his performance…hate the bad accent. Totally makes me crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/94 "2013-04-16T21:16:13Z")
I am all wound up by the sexual tension between Jon and Ygritte. When will we get some relief? ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/95 "2013-04-16T21:21:02Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > I am all wound up by the sexual tension between Jon and Ygritte. When will we get some relief? You know nothing, **Ascenray**! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/96 "2013-04-16T21:23:18Z")
Heh. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/97 "2013-04-16T21:40:39Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > So I wonder if Jamie was bullshitting about Brienne being from the “sapphire islands” with a father willing to give a fortune for her safe return. Note that I do not want to be spoilered on this or any other aspect of the show; I’m just idly wondering. Catelyn did refer to Brienne as “_Lady_ Brienne” until Brienne asked her not to and unless her father was a nobleman willing to indulge her I don’t see how she’d have acquired a knight’s training. Tarth is one of the islands in the Narrow see between Westeros and Essos. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/98 "2013-04-16T21:49:23Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Catelyn did refer to Brienne as “_Lady_ Brienne” until Brienne asked her not to and unless her father was a nobleman willing to indulge her I don’t see how she’d have acquired a knight’s training. Tarth is one of the islands in the Narrow see between Westeros and Essos. Not only the training. She also has very good armor. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/99 "2013-04-16T21:54:15Z")
> [@obfusciatrist](#): > > I hope the rest of the gang from Misfits shows up. Told my wife he was able to sneak in and help Theon escape because he can turn invisible. Forgot she didn’t watch Misfits so she thought I was spoilering. This show is a goldmine of “s/he was in that” riches for things she hasn’t seen - it’s a running joke for us. “He’s in Ripper Street!” “Haven’t seen it.” “Remember Braveheart?” “No.” “He’s the guy that said ‘Yarp’ in Hot Fuzz.” “Don’t remember.” “He was the bad guy in The Golden Child.” “Never saw it.” “She was Nymphadora.” “Don’t know what you’re talking about.” “He was a Bond villain and an Indiana Jones villain.” “Don’t care.” Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719/100 "2013-04-16T22:48:15Z")
> [@Morbo](#): > > This show is a goldmine of “s/he was in that” riches for things she hasn’t seen - it’s a running joke for us. > > “He’s in Ripper Street!” “Haven’t seen it.” > “Remember Braveheart?” “No.” > “He’s the guy that said ‘Yarp’ in Hot Fuzz.” “Don’t remember.” > “He was the bad guy in The Golden Child.” “Never saw it.” > “She was Nymphadora.” “Don’t know what you’re talking about.” > “He was a Bond villain and an Indiana Jones villain.” “Don’t care.” > > Sigh. Surely you remember him as the Mayor in _The Wire_, right? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-03-walk-of-punishment-4-14-13-no-book-spoilers/655719.md?page=6)