# Game of Thrones 3.04 "And Now His Watch is Ended" 4/21/13 No Book Spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 21, 2013, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-04-and-now-his-watch-is-ended-4-21-13-no-book-spoilers/656340 "2013-04-21T22:12:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-04-and-now-his-watch-is-ended-4-21-13-no-book-spoilers/656340/1 "2013-04-21T22:12:55Z")
[3.01 Valar Dohaeris](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=686582) [3.02 Dark Wings, Dark Words](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=687488) [3.03 Walk of Punishment](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=688153) This is the episode discussion thread that pretends the books don’t exist. [This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=686706) is the thread with open spoilers for the books. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-04-and-now-his-watch-is-ended-4-21-13-no-book-spoilers/656340/2 "2013-04-21T23:17:07Z")
They better continue Jamie and Briennes storyline this week. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-04-and-now-his-watch-is-ended-4-21-13-no-book-spoilers/656340/3 "2013-04-21T23:22:55Z")
The title suggests we’re going to be bored by night’s watch stuff, but the show never really focuses exclusively on one storyline, so I’m sure we’ll get a little bit of everything. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2013, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-04-and-now-his-watch-is-ended-4-21-13-no-book-spoilers/656340/4 "2013-04-21T23:52:14Z")
Who wasn’t around last week? Bran? I’m interested in seeing more of the Reeds. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-04-and-now-his-watch-is-ended-4-21-13-no-book-spoilers/656340/5 "2013-04-22T01:16:35Z")
So what is Mance Rydars back story according to the series? As far as I remember in last season Jon and the Nights Watch were north of the wall on a scouting mission of some form trying to see if the wildlings were organising, or looking for someone who’s horse they found. I also dimly remember something about Neds brother or was he the guy recruiting people for the wall? What happened to him? I have only read first few chapters of book one , but did not like the writing style so I only know what is in the HBO series. I am guessing the guy who is selling the slave army to Danerys is going to come to a toasty end. No way can he get away with running a slave city and not have a gruesome end. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-04-and-now-his-watch-is-ended-4-21-13-no-book-spoilers/656340/6 "2013-04-22T01:51:08Z")
> [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > As far as I remember in last season Jon and the Nights Watch were north of the wall on a scouting mission of some form trying to see if the wildlings were organising, or looking for someone who’s horse they found. I also dimly remember something about Neds brother or was he the guy recruiting people for the wall? What happened to him? They went scouting, and looking for Benjen Stark, Ned’s brother. They haven’t found him yet. I just rewatched the last episode of S2 and the first episode of S3, and I still can’t figure out why Sam was chastised for not sending ravens. There’s nothing in either episode to indicate he was told to send ravens, or that he was anywhere near The Wall, which I assume is where the ravens are kept. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-04-and-now-his-watch-is-ended-4-21-13-no-book-spoilers/656340/7 "2013-04-22T01:57:31Z")
> [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > I am guessing the guy who is selling the slave army to Danerys is going to come to a toasty end. You must be a psychic. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-04-and-now-his-watch-is-ended-4-21-13-no-book-spoilers/656340/8 "2013-04-22T02:00:37Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > They went scouting, and looking for Benjen Stark, Ned’s brother. They haven’t found him yet. > > I just rewatched the last episode of S2 and the first episode of S3, and I still can’t figure out why Sam was chastised for not sending ravens. There’s nothing in either episode to indicate he was told to send ravens, or that he was anywhere near The Wall, which I assume is where the ravens are kept. Raven duty was basically the only reason they brought Sam along. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-04-and-now-his-watch-is-ended-4-21-13-no-book-spoilers/656340/9 "2013-04-22T02:02:47Z")
So does Podrick know the secret of the [Venus Butterfly](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_Butterfly)? Or is he some other sort of wizard? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-04-and-now-his-watch-is-ended-4-21-13-no-book-spoilers/656340/10 "2013-04-22T02:04:43Z")
Lord Beric Dondarrion looked [nothing](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKB0ogglzGQ) like he did in the first season. ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-04-and-now-his-watch-is-ended-4-21-13-no-book-spoilers/656340/11 "2013-04-22T02:05:58Z")
Well, shit. I feel like a bit of a dope for not seeing exactly what Danaerys’s play was as soon as she decided to buy a slave city’s entire slave army. Good episode, though the Watch stuff was boring… until everyone went batshit crazy. O.O And my, does Margaery know how to play folks… ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-04-and-now-his-watch-is-ended-4-21-13-no-book-spoilers/656340/12 "2013-04-22T02:15:14Z")
That went fast. I really really wanted to see the Hound’s trial this week. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-04-and-now-his-watch-is-ended-4-21-13-no-book-spoilers/656340/13 "2013-04-22T02:18:11Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > You must be a psychic. Why thank you, one of my many talents. Yes it is a pretty obvious result, more of a when rather than if guess. Waiting for kids to go to bed before watching. Thanks for clarifying the reason for the trip north. Still wondering about mance backstory if there is one. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-04-and-now-his-watch-is-ended-4-21-13-no-book-spoilers/656340/14 "2013-04-22T02:18:34Z")
Started a bit slow, but goddamn did it pick up in the last half! Dany is fucking awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-04-and-now-his-watch-is-ended-4-21-13-no-book-spoilers/656340/15 "2013-04-22T02:24:23Z")
> [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > Why thank you, one of my many talents. > > Yes it is a pretty obvious result, more of a when rather than if guess. > Waiting for kids to go to bed before watching. > Thanks for clarifying the reason for the trip north. > Still wondering about mance backstory if there is one. Mance used to be in the Night’s Watch. I think that’s all that’s been said. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-04-and-now-his-watch-is-ended-4-21-13-no-book-spoilers/656340/16 "2013-04-22T02:25:23Z")
Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-04-and-now-his-watch-is-ended-4-21-13-no-book-spoilers/656340/17 "2013-04-22T02:29:50Z")
So, Pod’s got a rod like a god? ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-04-and-now-his-watch-is-ended-4-21-13-no-book-spoilers/656340/18 "2013-04-22T02:35:12Z")
When I read the scene where Dani gets her slave army, I literally went “holy shit”. The televised version did not let me down. “A dragon is not a slave!” ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-04-and-now-his-watch-is-ended-4-21-13-no-book-spoilers/656340/19 "2013-04-22T02:37:58Z")
That scene is one of the very few times I’ve had a visceral emotional reaction to a scene in a book. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2013, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-04-and-now-his-watch-is-ended-4-21-13-no-book-spoilers/656340/20 "2013-04-22T02:40:00Z")
So WTH is going on with Theon? Am I supposed to understand what’s happening to him? Why’d that kid kill those guys? Who were those guys? Was that kid the same one that freed him in the first place? What is going on? I have a strong feeling that his dad or sister is behind it but I’m not really sure why or what they’d be trying to accomplish exactly. Find out where is true loyalties lay? Is this really the best way to do that? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-04-and-now-his-watch-is-ended-4-21-13-no-book-spoilers/656340.md?page=2)