# Game of Thrones 3.06 "The Climb" 5/5/2013 No Spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 6, 2013, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592 "2013-05-06T02:09:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/41 "2013-05-06T14:27:11Z")
> [@Joey\_Tightlips](#): > > 1. What do we know about “Gendry”? All I seem to remember from prior episodes is that he wanted out of King’s Landing. I wouldn’t have even known his name if not for reading this thread. Is he related to Stannis somehow (that we know of)? He’s king Roberts bastard son. Like all of his children no matter who the other parent was Gendry looks Baratheon through and through. That’s why the Lannisters wanted to off him, along with all the other kingly bastards, it is basically the only “proof” that Joffrey Myrcella and Tomnen aren’t Baratheons. Mellisandre wants him for his king’s blood for witchy purposes. > [@](#): > > 1. So Bran and his crew are going to The WALL? Why aren’t they going to King Rob and Momma Stark? Because Rob is across enemy territory, the north is crawling with Iron men and they would have to go through war ravaged country to get to him. Going to the wall is much easier, unexpected, and considered a “safe” place for a Stark to be. > [@](#): > > 1. The whole conversation with Littlefinger and Varys. No clue what they were talking about. Was it that Varys told the Lannisters about Littlefinger’s plan to take Sansa away? Or was it just about Ros getting outed as a spy as was mentioned upthread. (Would never have put that together otherwise, thanks.) Varys claimed to be trying to prevent the realm falling into chaos, Littlefinger likes chaos. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/42 "2013-05-06T14:27:24Z")
> [@Joey\_Tightlips](#): > > Yeah, I was lost a few times in this episode also. > > 1. What do we know about “Gendry”? All I seem to remember from prior episodes is that he wanted out of King’s Landing. I wouldn’t have even known his name if not for reading this thread. Is he related to Stannis somehow (that we know of)? Gendry is Robert’s son. Ned met him when he was following Jon Arryn’s investigation into Robert’s bastards. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/43 "2013-05-06T14:33:58Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > That’s why the Lannisters wanted to off him, along with all the other kingly bastards, it is basically the only “proof” that Joffrey Myrcella and Tomnen aren’t Baratheons. I seem to recall a conversation between Tyrion and Cersei in which Cersei admits, or at least allows Tyrion to believe, that it was Joffrey himself that ordered the deaths of all of Robert’s bastards and that Cersei was unable to stop him. Tyrion then scolds Cersei for being unable to control Joffrey. I have to say, I was quite shocked and dismayed by the manner of Ros’s death. That was harsh and creepy. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/44 "2013-05-06T14:37:00Z")
Is Ros the first person that Joffrey has straight up killed? As opposed to ordering someone else do it. Also, just a few weeks back I was lamenting that they seemed to have dropped the whole “Gendry is Robert’s son” storyline. Good to see that it’s back in action. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/45 "2013-05-06T14:37:51Z")
On preview, I’m beaten to the punch, but I’ll submit this anyway: > [@Joey\_Tightlips](#): > > 1. What do we know about “Gendry”? All I seem to remember from prior episodes is that he wanted out of King’s Landing. I wouldn’t have even known his name if not for reading this thread. Is he related to Stannis somehow (that we know of)? In season 1, Ned Stark tracked down several of Robert Baratheon’s bastard sons to see what they looked like. Gendry was one of them–working for a blacksmith in King’s Landing–and every one of them has dark hair like Robert. That’s how Ned knew Joffrey wasn’t Robert’s son and is therefore not a true heir to the throne. Then, at the beginning of last season, we see Joffrey’s men hunting down and killing all of Robert’s bastard sons, presumably to keep everyone else from finding out what Ned had discovered and to remove any potential challengers to his right to rule. Gendry escaped by joining the group headed toward the Wall. Melisandre told Stannis that he wasn’t strong enough to produce more of the shadow demons, but that someone else with “king’s blood” would suffice. Apparently that someone else is Gendry, who has Robert’s blood. ---
**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/46 "2013-05-06T14:40:28Z")
It seems obvious, after the fact, that Joffrey ordered the attempt on Tyrion’s life. So much so that I can’t remember why he/we thought it was Cersei behind it before. Anybody? ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/47 "2013-05-06T14:44:44Z")
Well, Cersei was none too pleased with Tyrion acting as the Hand, since she wanted to control Joffrey all by herself. Also, Cersei was afraid that Tyrion was trying to get Joffrey killed by pressuring him to lead his men in the battle against Stannis’ invasion. Plus, Tyrion knows about Cersei and Jamie and that Joffrey is their son. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/48 "2013-05-06T14:51:34Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > And Littlefinger really really hates [bad investments](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2gjM86mwkI). How long do you think that Joffrey has been pestering Littlefinger to bring him a prostitute that he can kill? ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/49 "2013-05-06T14:51:53Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > The freaking horn Theon was bitching about during the siege of winterfell is what crazy torture guy uses to wake him up. Which, to me, confirms my theory from a week or two back that Theon is being held by a Bolton bannermen, most likely at the Bolton base, IE the Dread Fort. I am now of the opinion that the batshit loon that’s torturing Theon is, in fact, Roose Bolton’s bastard himself. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/50 "2013-05-06T14:56:06Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Is Ros the first person that Joffrey has straight up killed? As opposed to ordering someone else do it. Tyrion had two women delivered to Joffrey’s room in an earlier episode in the hopes that the little bastard would calm down if he was getting laid. Joffrey whipped out a crossbow (the same he used in this episode and the same he threatened Sansa with in the middle of court) after having them beat the fuck out of each other and I’m pretty sure he killed one or both of them. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/51 "2013-05-06T15:00:02Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Littlefinger stole her back for the Lannisters. How did he do that? It appeared to be Tywin’s idea. Were we shown how this idea was planted, or how it was made to seem a good idea? ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/52 "2013-05-06T15:00:13Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Hm… only if your fantasy is that “overly attached girlfriend” meme. She’s hot and everything, but damn girl you barely know the guy. Why wouldn’t she be into John Snow? Girls dig brooding, athletic guys from wealthy families. > [@Hampshire](#): > > Maybe I missed something but why did the Beyond the Wall clan choose the most difficult way past the wall? Aren’t there easier ways around for smaller groups? > The deserter from Se.1Ep.1 made it past. A direwolf made it past. Osha and her group made it past. So why climb 600’ up the thing? I don’t think there are easier ways. According to the Wiki on The Wall, it’s unbroken for 300 miles except for a locked access tunnel at each fort. And those are sealed when the forts are abandoned. “I think you would have learned your lesson about over-playing your…position.” > [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Yeah, nobody was in disbelief, especially the only guy to witness it that was in complete shock the entire time. Brienne and Lady Stark were pretty shocked for all of 10 seconds before Renley’s guards came storming in and assumed he wasn’t killed by a shadow monster. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/53 "2013-05-06T15:01:29Z")
> [@Shakester](#): > > Which, to me, confirms my theory from a week or two back that Theon is being held by a Bolton bannermen, most likely at the Bolton base, IE the Dread Fort. > > I am now of the opinion that the batshit loon that’s torturing Theon is, in fact, Roose Bolton’s bastard himself. What the heck is a Bolton? ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/54 "2013-05-06T15:04:53Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > Tyrion had two women delivered to Joffrey’s room in an earlier episode in the hopes that the little bastard would calm down if he was getting laid. Joffrey whipped out a crossbow (the same he used in this episode and the same he threatened Sansa with in the middle of court) after having them beat the fuck out of each other and I’m pretty sure he killed one or both of them. One of those women was Roz. I think we saw the other one later too. > [@Frylock](#): > > How did he do that? It appeared to be Tywin’s idea. Were we shown how this idea was planted, or how it was made to seem a good idea? Well, he probably didn’t give Tywin the plan, but he told the Lannisters of the Tyrell’s/Varys’s plan. Either way, he ruined Varys’s plan, and I think he knew full well that once he did he wouldn’t get Sansa either. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/55 "2013-05-06T15:05:26Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > What the heck is a Bolton? A crooner. Girls liked him until he lost his hair. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/56 "2013-05-06T15:06:44Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > And Littlefinger really really hates [bad investments](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2gjM86mwkI). Oh crap I didn’t realize that was the same woman! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/57 "2013-05-06T15:07:23Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > What the heck is a Bolton? Northmen. Roose Bolton, the head of the clan, is the one who has Jaime right now. His bastard son was sent to reclaim Winterfell. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/58 "2013-05-06T15:07:44Z")
> [@Joey\_Tightlips](#): > > 1. So Bran and his crew are going to The WALL? Why aren’t they going to King Rob and Momma Stark? During the rabbit-skinning scene, I was wondering where Rickon (the youngest Stark) was. He seems to have disappeared. ---
**Author:** ![Reverse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@Reverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reverse)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/59 "2013-05-06T15:08:45Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > What the heck is a Bolton? One of the northern houses under Robb Stark’s command, their sigil a flayed man on a cross. Lord Roose Bolton is currently in charge of Harrenhal. He’s the nice gentleman who agreed to let Jaime return to King’s Landing. > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > During the rabbit-skinning scene, I was wondering where Rickon (the youngest Stark) was. He seems to have disappeared. Rickon had a line or two of dialogue when Jojen was having his seizure. Weird that you missed that. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/60 "2013-05-06T15:09:17Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > One of those women was Roz. Oh, wow, I missed that. Her having been sent _back_ to him makes an already fucked up scene a little more fucked up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592.md?page=4)