# Game of Thrones 3.06 "The Climb" 5/5/2013 No Spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 6, 2013, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592 "2013-05-06T02:09:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/61 "2013-05-06T15:10:11Z")
It was plausible for Cersei, Joffrey or even Tywin to be behind the order, since any of the three of them could have done it and all seem to hate Tyrion. (Tywin would have had to send a rider ahead, but he wasn’t far away because he only missed the first half of the battle of Blackwater.) ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/62 "2013-05-06T15:13:06Z")
> [@Furious\_Marmot](#): > > It seems obvious, after the fact, that Joffrey ordered the attempt on Tyrion’s life. So much so that I can’t remember why he/we thought it was Cersei behind it before. Anybody? Cersei was mighty pissed at Tyrion for having Myrcella (sp?) sent away, before the Battle of Blackwater. The ship Sansa was looking longingly at – that was Littlefinger leaving? I thought she was just playing her “let’s imagine” game again. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/63 "2013-05-06T15:14:52Z")
> [@Furious\_Marmot](#): > > It seems obvious, after the fact, that Joffrey ordered the attempt on Tyrion’s life. So much so that I can’t remember why he/we thought it was Cersei behind it before. Anybody? Because for the majority of the first two seasons, we’d been under the impression that Cersei had been pulling Joffrey’s strings. > [@Shakester](#): > > Which, to me, confirms my theory from a week or two back that Theon is being held by a Bolton bannermen, most likely at the Bolton base, IE the Dread Fort. > > I am now of the opinion that the batshit loon that’s torturing Theon is, in fact, Roose Bolton’s bastard himself. Didn’t he say he was a Karstark? And wasn’t it Karstark (the guy that Robb beheaded last week) the guy that offered his son’s services to take back Winterfell? ---
**Author:** ![Reverse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@Reverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reverse)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/64 "2013-05-06T15:16:19Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > The ship Sansa was looking longingly at – that was Littlefinger leaving? I thought she was just playing her “let’s imagine” game again. Yes, that was Littlefinger leaving. It was explicitly mentioned to be Littlefinger’s ship in the previous episode and now we were explicitly shown the rear of the ship. > [@Munch](#): > > Because for the majority of the first two seasons, we’d been under the impression that Cersei had been pulling Joffrey’s strings. It was made abundantly clear that Cersei has no control over Joffrey when he had Ned Stark executed. > [@](#): > > Didn’t he say he was a Karstark? And wasn’t it Karstark (the guy that Robb beheaded last week) the guy that offered his son’s services to take back Winterfell? He lied. And no, it was Roose Bolton who offered to have his bastard take back Winterfell. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/65 "2013-05-06T15:18:09Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Didn’t he say he was a Karstark? And wasn’t it Karstark (the guy that Robb beheaded last week) the guy that offered his son’s services to take back Winterfell? He said he was a Karstark, and then he said he was a liar and was lying about everything he just said. ---
**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/66 "2013-05-06T15:18:27Z")
I thought we were supposed to think Theon was imprisoned by the Boltons all along, only to get the rug yanked out from under us. Fooled you! It’s really Unexpected Lord XYZ! Lord Bolton (the guy with a flayed dude on his flag) said his bastard would go to Winterfell..plot stuff happens…Theon gets tortured. That’s not much of a twist, is it? > [@AuntiePam](#): > > Cersei was mighty pissed at Tyrion for having Myrcella (sp?) sent away, before the Battle of Blackwater. > > The ship Sansa was looking longingly at – that was Littlefinger leaving? I thought she was just playing her “let’s imagine” game again. Forgot about marrying off Myrcella entirely. There was a Littlefinger bird symbol on the sail I think. Same one he wears around his neck. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/67 "2013-05-06T15:19:05Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > Tyrion had two women delivered to Joffrey’s room in an earlier episode in the hopes that the little bastard would calm down if he was getting laid. Joffrey whipped out a crossbow (the same he used in this episode and the same he threatened Sansa with in the middle of court) after having them beat the fuck out of each other and I’m pretty sure he killed one or both of them. It was Ros and Daisy. Ros was forced to beat Daisy and Joffrey had her sent to Tyrion but I don’t think she was dead. Do a, obviously, wasn’t killed either. Later, Cersei took Rod into her custody, mistaking her for Shay. > [@Frylock](#): > > How did he do that? It appeared to be Tywin’s idea. Were we shown how this idea was planted, or how it was made to seem a good idea? Last episode there was a scene in which Cersei asked Littlefinger to persuade Tywin to take action to thwart Tyrell scheming. > [@Frylock](#): > > What the heck is a Bolton? Rosie Bolton currently has Jaime and Brienne. He’s one of Robb’s few remaining amendment and he’s in charge of Harrenhal. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/68 "2013-05-06T15:19:42Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > During the rabbit-skinning scene, I was wondering where Rickon (the youngest Stark) was. He seems to have disappeared. He had a line on that very scene. He might be a rare appearance but at least he’s around more than the direwolves. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_Tightlips](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/57b2e6/32.png) [@Joey\_Tightlips](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_Tightlips)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/69 "2013-05-06T15:22:21Z")
Thanks for the quick and detailed answers everyone. I knew about the bastard sons, but somehow missed that Gendry was one of them. Too many bastard characters on this show! 😛 To further my embarassment, I’d like to publicly admit that I actually like Stannis. Sure he has an abrasive personality, but he seems to have a legitimate claim to the throne and he has a no-nonsense way of getting things done. And really, who among us hasn’t been seduced by a red she-devil once or twice? I would print up “Team Stannis” t-shirts, but I fear nobody else would want one. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/70 "2013-05-06T15:26:57Z")
I liked Stannis quite a bit after the battle of Blackwater, dude was in front of his men kicking all kinds of ass. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/71 "2013-05-06T15:41:09Z")
I suspect Roz wasn’t the first Prostitute Geoffrey has killed, just the first one we saw and whose name we knew. I feel dumb because I never realized the Wall was made of ice. I thought it was build by some long forgotten ancient civilization. I liked the turn Jon Snow and Ygrite(?)'s story took. In a world were everyone has an agenda, having some characters with pure motivations would be refreshing. Speaking of which, Arya is awesome and I think I would like this show just as much if it just followed her and her story. ---
**Author:** ![Reverse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@Reverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reverse)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/72 "2013-05-06T15:45:05Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > I feel dumb because I never realized the Wall was made of ice. I thought it was build by some long forgotten ancient civilization. Why do you think the two are mutually exclusive? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/73 "2013-05-06T15:56:06Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > I suspect Roz wasn’t the first Prostitute Geoffrey has killed, just the first one we saw and whose name we knew. On the contrary, I think it’s very clear from Littlefinger’s speech to Varys that this is Joffrey’s first time. He was very eager to try a new experience and is very grateful to Littlefinger for finally allowing him to do it. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/74 "2013-05-06T16:14:54Z")
I’ll note that Tywin hasn’t delivered on his promise to stop Joffrey from doing what he likes. ---
**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/75 "2013-05-06T16:17:33Z")
Maybe he’ll do something once his spies on the royal janitorial staff tell him about having to remove Roz’s corpse from the king’s bedchamber. If there’s one thing Tywin cannot abide, it’s prostitution. ---
**Author:** ![SecretaryofEvil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SecretaryofEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecretaryofEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/76 "2013-05-06T16:21:17Z")
> [@Joey\_Tightlips](#): > > To further my embarassment, I’d like to publicly admit that I actually like Stannis. Sure he has an abrasive personality, but he seems to have a legitimate claim to the throne and he has a no-nonsense way of getting things done. And really, who among us hasn’t been seduced by a red she-devil once or twice? I would print up “Team Stannis” t-shirts, but I fear nobody else would want one. Stannis is the mannis. He rolls around with a crew of badass smugglers and pirates and a sexy foreign witch. He promotes people based on merit, not on who their father was. Her refuses to not give people credit for their accomplishments, but he also refuses to not insult people when they deserve it. He literally thinks it would be unethical not to insult them. Stannis has sex on a table shaped like a giant map of the country he plans to conquer. Stannis blows a load so hard that 2 weeks later the woman gives birth to a fully grown shadow man that assassinates his political rivals. His pre-battle inspirational speech was one sentence long and was really more of an order than a speech. It was still the most inspiring thing we’ve seen on the show so far. Stannis is always angry. You’d be pissed off too if you had to live in Westoros. It’s kind of a terrible place. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/77 "2013-05-06T16:23:43Z")
> [@Reverse](#): > > One of the northern houses under Robb Stark’s command, their sigil a flayed man on a cross. Lord Roose Bolton is currently in charge of Harrenhal. He’s the nice gentleman who agreed to let Jaime return to King’s Landing. I have no idea how people keep track of this. My experience of this show must be seriously impoverished. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/78 "2013-05-06T16:28:34Z")
> [@SecretaryofEvil](#): > > Stannis is the mannis. > > He rolls around with a crew of badass smugglers and pirates and a sexy foreign witch. > > He promotes people based on merit, not on who their father was. > > Her refuses to not give people credit for their accomplishments, but he also refuses to not insult people when they deserve it. He literally thinks it would be unethical not to insult them. > > Stannis has sex on a table shaped like a giant map of the country he plans to conquer. > > Stannis blows a load so hard that 2 weeks later the woman gives birth to a fully grown shadow man that assassinates his political rivals. > > His pre-battle inspirational speech was one sentence long and was really more of an order than a speech. It was still the most inspiring thing we’ve seen on the show so far. > > Stannis is always angry. You’d be pissed off too if you had to live in Westoros. It’s kind of a terrible place. He also has the craziest code of ethics, which make him fun to watch. Like how he cut off Davos fingers for being a smuggler, even though he was smuggling food in to Stannis. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/79 "2013-05-06T16:31:46Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > He also has the craziest code of ethics, which make him fun to watch. Like how he cut off Davos fingers for being a smuggler, even though he was smuggling food in to Stannis. In fairness to Stannis, I think the finger-cutting was a punishment for Davos’s past history of smuggling, not the smuggling that saved the castle. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592/80 "2013-05-06T16:38:11Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > In fairness to Stannis, I think the finger-cutting was a punishment for Davos’s past history of smuggling, not the smuggling that saved the castle. Yeah, he even told him “one good act does not erase all the past bad ones”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-06-the-climb-5-5-2013-no-spoilers/657592.md?page=5)