# Game of Thrones 3.08 "Second Sons" 5/19/13 No book spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 19, 2013, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757 "2013-05-19T20:31:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2013, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/1 "2013-05-19T20:31:53Z")
Previous threads [3.01 Valar Dohaeris](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=686582) [3.02 Dark Wings, Dark Words](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=687488) [3.03 Walk of Punishment](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=688153) [3.04 And Now His Watch is Ended](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=688810) [3.05 Kissed by fire](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=689488) [3.06 The Climb](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=690141) [3.07 The Bear and the Maiden Fair](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=690748) I think we all know the rules by now. The books do not exist in this thread. No spoilers, comparisons, anything. ---
**Author:** ![Fake\_Tales\_of\_San\_Francisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8491ac/32.png) [@Fake\_Tales\_of\_San\_Francisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fake_Tales_of_San_Francisco)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2013, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/2 "2013-05-19T21:09:35Z")
I like how the last few episode’s titles have all had multiple meanings related to the plot of each episode. In this I expect to see significant things happen plot-wise for the Hound, Bran, and Tyrion, who are all ‘second sons’. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2013, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/3 "2013-05-19T22:43:01Z")
Tonight they switch to the “unseen interviewer” format made famous by _The Office_ and _Modern Family_. First up: Tywin. “When Jaime and Cersei were teenagers they used to fight all the time. You’d hear bumping and banging and huffing and puffing coming from their rooms in the tower every day, sometimes several times a day. One time I told Tyrion ‘Go up there and separate those two’ and he went the opposite direction from their tower. ‘Where the hell are you going, boy?’ I asked and he said ‘To get a crowbar’. My reason for mentioning this is that Tyrion has never had a clue how to follow orders.” ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2013, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/4 "2013-05-19T23:50:02Z")
> [@Fake\_Tales\_of\_San\_Francisco](#): > > I like how the last few episode’s titles have all had multiple meanings related to the plot of each episode. In this I expect to see significant things happen plot-wise for the Hound, Bran, and Tyrion, who are all ‘second sons’. Or Jon. Well, he and Robb are roughly the same age. It’s never stated who is older AFAIK, but I’ll guess that it’s Robb. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2013, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/5 "2013-05-19T23:50:45Z")
I think the network execs chose to greenlight “Jamie and Brieanne” instead. It is a hilarious sit com where Jamie, a down on his luck former wall street banker ‘master of the universe type’ from a very wealthy family is having to lay low due to some insider trading shenanigans is forced to share an apartment with beat cop Brieanne from a working class back ground. Laugh as they trade witty banter, sharp barbs and extricate themselves from hilarious situations caused by Jamies interfering sister, their brattish over entitle nephew and some comically inept mafia street thugs trying to get back their losses from Jamie. The “will they won’t they get together” dynamic should keep the series going for many, many seasons. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2013, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/6 "2013-05-19T23:53:36Z")
If there’s any spinoff it’s going to be the adventures of Bronn, or at least Tywin Lannister reading 50 shades of gray. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2013, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/7 "2013-05-19T23:58:27Z")
Kitchen Nightmares: Hotpie’s hot pies. ---
**Author:** ![Fake\_Tales\_of\_San\_Francisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8491ac/32.png) [@Fake\_Tales\_of\_San\_Francisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fake_Tales_of_San_Francisco)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/8 "2013-05-20T00:18:23Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > Or Jon. Well, he and Robb are roughly the same age. It’s never stated who is older AFAIK, but I’ll guess that it’s Robb. I’m just as bad as those in Westeros forgetting about Jon! I guess it’s because there’s a big thing made about him being a bastard, and how that’s a Very Bad Thing. Also, technically, Jon has forsaken his family in becoming a member of the Night’s Watch. So the second son would still be Bran, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/9 "2013-05-20T00:25:32Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > If there’s any spinoff it’s going to be the adventures of Bronn, or at least Tywin Lannister reading 50 shades of gray. “The Cure for Being a Cunt,” the new romantic doctor comedy on ABC. > [@Fake\_Tales\_of\_San\_Francisco](#): > > Also, technically, Jon has forsaken his family in becoming a member of the Night’s Watch. I got the impression that they considered it an honorable thing, as the Starks are one of the few families to have a huge respect for the NW. It’s like a chance to redeem yourself, whether criminal or bastard. And I doubt Ned didn’t respect Benjen. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/10 "2013-05-20T00:27:16Z")
I guess “forsaken” is a strong word but they do renounce all family ties. They are brothers to each other after taking the oath. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/11 "2013-05-20T01:16:42Z")
The captain of the Second Sons is a Bravosi. Coincidence? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/12 "2013-05-20T02:06:06Z")
No episode next week? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/13 "2013-05-20T02:06:47Z")
It’s Memorial Day weekend. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/14 "2013-05-20T02:08:21Z")
They had an episode last year and apparently it affected the ratings enough to make them reconsider. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/15 "2013-05-20T02:15:36Z")
Well, at least Chekhov’s Gun finally went off. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/16 "2013-05-20T02:22:18Z")
Rather careless to leave it behind, though. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/17 "2013-05-20T02:35:20Z")
Joffrey status: still a douche. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/18 "2013-05-20T02:40:26Z")
Apparently that talk about raping Sansa was just talk? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/19 "2013-05-20T02:41:13Z")
What talk about raping Sansa? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/20 "2013-05-20T02:42:09Z")
Joffrey threatened to come to her chamber after Tyrion passed out. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757.md?page=2)