# Game of Thrones 3.08 "Second Sons" 5/19/13 No book spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 19, 2013, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757 "2013-05-19T20:31:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2013, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/201 "2013-05-27T05:39:59Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > When we were kids we’d catch leeches for the fun of it my sticking our hand into the water of a creek, let the attach to our hands, lift em out, pick em off your hand and throw em in a bucket. If it hurt in any way we wouldnt do it. People have the weirdest hobbies. 🙂 But colour my ignorance fought regardless. Apparently (dixit Wiki), it’s even a very bad idea to do the Hollywood thing with a cigarette as the leech will puke its guts out into you, which is a whole 'nother dimension of gross above and beyond simply being sucked on by a slimy slug. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/202 "2013-05-28T00:49:25Z")
Oh, god, no Game of Thrones fix this week! Damn! Well at least I play in an MMORG that makes GoT look like church! ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/203 "2013-05-28T00:53:16Z")
What game is that? ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/204 "2013-05-28T03:36:20Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > I was pissed at Sam dropping the knife, but I guess it’s consistent with his character, he’s made outta stupid. It apparently did not occur to him that more than one White Walker might try to get the baby. Hopefully he will be severely killed in an upcoming episode for lack of that knife. I wouldn’t read too much into what could have simply been a result of bad editing. Sam may well have the dagger in a future scene and it just wasn’t shown. > [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I’m pretty sure Tyrion implied he was a virgin when he sent those two whores to him. I feel like we would’ve found out if that had changed. They pretty clearly implied that Joffery likes to play the sadistic little torturer with many of his slaves/whores. He has at least had the opportunity to torture and mutilate at least 3 women within the story, likely many others off camera. He might be a virgin still, but its probably more likely that he was getting his rocks off in his twisted little way when he was torturing the chicks. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/205 "2013-05-28T03:52:22Z")
[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13CSWRyaAgA) Definitely implied he’s a virgin. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/206 "2013-05-28T05:48:55Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Definitely implied he's a virgin. That was Season 2 episode 4. Tyrion sent him whores after that and he’s clearly stepped up his confidence and aggressiveness since then. Don’t think he’s still a virgin, virgins don’t threaten rape and impregnation in general. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/207 "2013-05-28T06:05:17Z")
Probably impotent threats. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/208 "2013-05-28T11:41:17Z")
Back to whether Joffrey is a vigin or not. I think not. He seemed to know exactly what to do if a girl “would rather not”. Have his Kingsguard hold them down. Do you think they’ll make Arya a flower girl? Oh goodness! You all did get back to that subject. Nice reading all the way to the very end of the thread, Biggirl. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/209 "2013-05-28T11:46:35Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Back to whether Joffrey is a vigin or not. I think not. He seemed to know exactly what to do if a girl “would rather not”. Have his Kingsguard hold them down. Knowing that doesn’t require any sexual experience, especially for someone like Joffrey, who is an expert in having big people do mean things to vulnerable people for his amusement. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/210 "2013-05-28T14:09:34Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Do you think they’ll make Arya a flower girl? I just realized, didn’t they promise to marry Arya to one of the Frey boys? I have a feeling it’s going to be a very unhappy reunion for her. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/211 "2013-05-28T14:31:08Z")
If you can arrange to murder a whore you can arrange some poon. So if Joffrey is a virgin it would have to be either gay or impotent. I don’t really know how sadism works but I imagine a gay sadist wouldn’t get off on torturing women. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/212 "2013-05-28T15:01:24Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > If you can arrange to murder a whore you can arrange some poon. So if Joffrey is a virgin it would have to be either gay or impotent. That line of reasoning is full of fallacies. Maybe he hasn’t yet developed an interest in sex? Maybe he’s not confident of himself? Maybe he’s so into in torturing and killing women that he hasn’t bothered to try to have sex yet? ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/213 "2013-05-28T16:10:22Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I just realized, didn’t they promise to marry Arya to one of the Frey boys? I have a feeling it’s going to be a very unhappy reunion for her. Ufffff… **must not reveal book spoilers** (note to self) I think Mr Filch is going to have to accept Brutus alone. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/214 "2013-05-28T16:14:12Z")
Cut that shit out. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/215 "2013-05-28T16:30:55Z")
Jesus, AK, just cut it out. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/216 "2013-05-28T17:14:24Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Ufffff… **must not reveal book spoilers** (note to self) > > I think Mr Filch is going to have to accept Brutus alone. It’s no spoiler that you are pulling some dick moves. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/217 "2013-05-28T17:48:33Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > It’s no spoiler that you are pulling some dick moves. Its also no spoiler that you are taking a fantasy world _waaay too seriously_ especially as nothing is revealed at all. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/218 "2013-05-28T17:52:35Z")
It certainly adds no content to this thread, nothing but annoyance can be gained by it, and you’re clearly being a jerk. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/219 "2013-05-28T18:04:09Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Its also no spoiler that you are taking a fantasy world _waaay too seriously_ especially as nothing is revealed at all. :rolleyes: Dude, just abide by the rules of the thread as a common courtesy to your other board members. Why is it so hard to just act decently? Do you honestly believe you are in the right? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757/220 "2013-05-28T18:10:33Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Its also no spoiler that you are taking a fantasy world _waaay too seriously_ especially as nothing is revealed at all. :rolleyes: Do you realize not one single person thought your dumb joke was funny? all you do is make yourself look like an idiot. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-08-second-sons-5-19-13-no-book-spoilers/658757.md?page=12)