# Game of Thrones 3.10 "Mhysa" 6/9/2013 No book discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 9, 2013, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539 "2013-06-09T11:27:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/41 "2013-06-10T11:10:00Z")
> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#): > > Was it just me, or did their final looks communicate that she isn’t as thrilled as she would be to have all of him back? Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![RyJae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@RyJae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyJae)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/42 "2013-06-10T12:21:52Z")
What was the story Bran was telling? I caught the end and it seems some God dislikes killing those under your roof? I know it relates to Frey or was a warning about what happens to Frey but until I get the episode on DVR (forgot last night ☹ ) it is bugging me. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/43 "2013-06-10T12:26:05Z")
> [@RyJae](#): > > What was the story Bran was telling? I caught the end and it seems some God dislikes killing those under your roof? I know it relates to Frey or was a warning about what happens to Frey but until I get the episode on DVR (forgot last night ☹ ) it is bugging me. He basically said that the gods weren’t angry for killing or other such acts, but instead because you welcomed a guest to your hospitality, then killed them. Cut camera to Walder Frey - a subtle connection and bit of foreshadowing, that… ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/44 "2013-06-10T12:28:25Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > And, whoah! Ygritte is _pissed_! Nah… she had to do it. ---
**Author:** ![RyJae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@RyJae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyJae)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/45 "2013-06-10T12:44:19Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > He basically said that the gods weren’t angry for killing or other such acts, but instead because you welcomed a guest to your hospitality, then killed them. Cut camera to Walder Frey - a subtle connection and bit of foreshadowing, that… Do you recall which Gods? Speaking of Gods, I have a feeling the red witch is tormenting Ser Davos by allowing him to live she basically showed him she is in charge based all on the look she gave at the end. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/46 "2013-06-10T12:50:57Z")
Bran just said “the gods.” ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/47 "2013-06-10T12:51:36Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > Nah… she had to do it. Yeah, when Jon Snow says “I don’t know a lot of things but i know you won’t shoot me” you pretty much have to. ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/48 "2013-06-10T13:06:10Z")
I’m getting the feeling that next season Joffrey is going to kill off Tyrion in order to make a statement to Tywin. I just can’t imagine him allowing Tyrion to continually insult him - plus his denial of being tired and all that point that way. I don’t want Tyrion to die, he’s one of my favorite characters, but I just have a bad feeling. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/49 "2013-06-10T13:12:19Z")
> [@RyJae](#): > > Do you recall which Gods? Well, it was Bran telling the story, so I assume it was the old gods that the northerners worship. > [@Meatros](#): > > I’m getting the feeling that next season Joffrey is going to kill off Tyrion in order to make a statement to Tywin. I just can’t imagine him allowing Tyrion to continually insult him - plus his denial of being tired and all that point that way. I dunno - Tyrion has threatened to kill Joffrey numerous times over the series, and with the emphasis this show has placed on him (Tyrion), I wouldn’t put it past him. Add in the developing relationship between him and Sansa, as well as the plot pointing towards him and Sansa needing to create an heir (otherwise, what’s the point of that entire storyline from Martin’s perspective?), I could see Tyrion offing Joffrey as a tribute of his dedication to Sansa. ---
**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/50 "2013-06-10T13:29:54Z")
> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#): > > … > To be fair, he did somehow change the entire structure of his face in seconds around that time, so literally thinking he could appear in a puff of smoke wouldn’t be too irrational. It might happen that way. That guy could show up riding a flaming ostrich singing La Bamba in Yiddish and I wouldn’t be surprised. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/51 "2013-06-10T13:30:47Z")
> [@RyJae](#): > > Do you recall which Gods? Speaking of Gods, I have a feeling the red witch is tormenting Ser Davos by allowing him to live she basically showed him she is in charge based all on the look she gave at the end. I have decided that Ser Davos the Onion Knight is my spirit animal – seriously, I think he is just THE BEST and I love his interactions with Stannis’s daughter – and I really, really want something truly awful to happen to Melissandre. SOON. She is weird and creepy and power-hungry and basically everything that is wrong with organized religion. ---
**Author:** ![HammerJoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a6a055/32.png) [@HammerJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HammerJoe)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/52 "2013-06-10T13:36:34Z")
It seems obvious to me that Joffrey is going to be killed at some point seeing that he seemed to pretty much piss everybody Tywin included. Even Cersei is realizing that. And besides with the war now over with the North the Lannisters story becomes stale so something has to happen for it to evolve and Joffrey undoing woulds stir things up. Danaerys is still far far away to get involved and she seems more interested in freeing slaves than to sail to Kings landing. I was surprised that in this episode they didnt show that kings landing got the raven from the wall about the night watch army. They showed Stannis and it was serious enough for him to shift focus to it. Does this not affect kings landing? Are they so far south that winter doesnt get there? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/53 "2013-06-10T13:41:12Z")
After Joffrey said to Tywin about hiding under Casterly Rock, you could see on his face that he knew he had gone too far. Despite his constant protestations that he is the king, I think he realizes how precarious his position is. ---
**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/54 "2013-06-10T13:44:22Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > I dunno - Tyrion has threatened to kill Joffrey numerous times over the series, and with the emphasis this show has placed on him (Tyrion), I wouldn’t put it past him. Add in the developing relationship between him and Sansa, as well as the plot pointing towards him and Sansa needing to create an heir (otherwise, what’s the point of that entire storyline from Martin’s perspective?), I could see Tyrion offing Joffrey as a tribute of his dedication to Sansa. I just don’t see Joffrey dieing, to be honest. I don’t think Tyrion would do that - has he actually killed anyone (directly or indirectly)? I don’t think so (but I can’t remember). Also, Joffrey is getting more brazen and defiant, which is why I think he’s going to kill Tyrion. Also, as a fan, I _expect_ Sansa to warm up to Tyrion… and hence, Tyrion will not get a chance to act on that. > [@HammerJoe](#): > > It seems obvious to me that Joffrey is going to be killed at some point seeing that he seemed to pretty much piss everybody Tywin included. Even Cersei is realizing that. I don’t know about that. I think that Martin has set his character up as such that everyone **wants him to die** , but I don’t think we’ll get our wish. > [@HammerJoe](#): > > And besides with the war now over with the North the Lannisters story becomes stale so something has to happen for it to evolve and Joffrey undoing woulds stir things up. > Danaerys is still far far away to get involved and she seems more interested in freeing slaves than to sail to Kings landing. True, it would stir things up, I’ll grant you that - but I think Danaerys is probably going to come into play to provide the stirring. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/55 "2013-06-10T13:44:24Z")
> [@HammerJoe](#): > > Does this not affect kings landing? Are they so far south that winter doesnt get there? Not sure if the actual “winter” makes it that far south, but I’m guessing so. Tyrion (when he was Hand) was talking about all the stocking up for winter they were doing, and how feeding a hungry city during a long winter can make or break a king. There was some mention at some point of the lands south of King’s Landing (especially where the Tyrells are) rarely if ever experiencing a winter. ---
**Author:** ![HammerJoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a6a055/32.png) [@HammerJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HammerJoe)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/56 "2013-06-10T13:50:17Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Not sure if the actual “winter” makes it that far south, but I’m guessing so. Tyrion (when he was Hand) was talking about all the stocking up for winter they were doing, and how feeding a hungry city during a long winter can make or break a king. There was some mention at some point of the lands south of King’s Landing (especially where the Tyrells are) rarely if ever experiencing a winter. I meant about the nights watch army… is Kings landing too far for them to attack? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/57 "2013-06-10T13:54:31Z")
> [@HammerJoe](#): > > I meant about the nights watch army… is Kings landing too far for them to attack? Why would the night’s watch army attack King’s Landing? ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/58 "2013-06-10T13:58:42Z")
So Dany is basically a messiah figure now, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/59 "2013-06-10T14:03:16Z")
Has Sam gotten around to telling anyone that dragon glass knives will kill a white walker? It’s a key plot point, and giving it to the biggest idiot in the storyline means that Sam will either not recognize the point or forget to tell anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2013, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/60 "2013-06-10T14:04:54Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Why would the night’s watch army attack King’s Landing? I bet he meant the night walker army. And so far as I know, we don’t know what their intentions are, much less their strategy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539.md?page=4)