# Game of Thrones 3.10 "Mhysa" 6/9/2013 No book discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 9, 2013, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539 "2013-06-09T11:27:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/121 "2013-06-11T02:10:59Z")
He named himself king of the iron islands making him another usurper. Basically the same thing as Robb, they tried breaking up the kingdom. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/122 "2013-06-11T02:12:13Z")
> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > I thought they were all white walkers, but just at different levels of decaying whitishiness. No, there are the giant White Walkers (Others) who cannot be killed except by dragonstone. When a White Walker kills a mortal, it becomes a zombie-type undead creature that can be killed by fire. > [@AuntiePam](#): > > Three names – Robb Stark, Joffrey Lannister and Balon Greyjoy. I have no idea why Balon Greyjoy was on Mel’s list. Did he do something to Stannis back in the day? Balon Greyjoy, like Robb Stark, declared himself a king. ---
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/123 "2013-06-11T02:28:10Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I noticed that the Previously On scenes included the bit in which Stannis put one of the leeches in the fire and said Robb Stark’s name. I think the reason is that we’re expected to understand that Stannis believes the leech ritual led to the death of Robb Stark. Which is why I don’t understand why Stannis and Melisandre still want to go ahead and sacrifice Gendry. if they keep him alive they could leech him every day for years, killing off whosoever they wish. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/124 "2013-06-11T02:32:44Z")
Presumably they don’t want to drag the war out for years. I suppose they’re thinking that if one leech full of blood was enough to kill a king, then sacrificing him altogether would end the war immediately. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/125 "2013-06-11T02:36:45Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Balon Greyjoy, like Robb Stark, declared himself a king. Did Robb actually declare himself king? I thought it was his bannermen that started chanting “King of the North” at him, and he sorta went along with it. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/126 "2013-06-11T02:40:55Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Did Robb actually declare himself king? I thought it was his bannermen that started chanting “King of the North” at him, and he sorta went along with it. Does that really matter from Stannis’s point of view? After Robb’s bannerman started calling him a king, Robb took the title of a king and put on a crown and started telling everyone he was a king. That’s declaring yourself a king just as much as anything else. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/127 "2013-06-11T03:03:23Z")
Robb sent peace terms to King’s Landing part of which was the North seceding. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/128 "2013-06-11T03:17:09Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > I like that term. I think that Bron might qualify as well. Though if Jon Snow really has a major role to play in Westeros, Bron and Rickon might have to die off to make him the last surviving male heir to Winterfell (though they keep reinforcing that those who have taken the Black have renounced all claims to any titles). Bastards can’t inherit. Jon Snow has never been and cannot be an heir to Winterfell. After Bron & Rickon it’s Sansa, then Ayra. ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/129 "2013-06-11T03:53:36Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Bastards can’t inherit. Jon Snow has never been and cannot be an heir to Winterfell. After Bron & Rickon it’s Sansa, then Ayra. Bronn at Winterfell…now there’s an image! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/130 "2013-06-11T04:15:59Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Then shouldn’t they be called “wight walkers”? Not to be a jerk or pedantic, but based solely on the TV show, how do we know they don’t mean “wight walkers” as opposed to “white walkers”? AFAIK, no one on the TV has actually written down the phrase of the people they’re referring to. FWIW, I didn’t realize there was a difference between zombified humans and white walkers, I thought they were basically the same just one group had been zombified longer. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/131 "2013-06-11T04:17:25Z")
> [@Taomist](#): > > Bronn at Winterfell…now there’s an image! 😛 He and his “good friend” Tyrion and presumably brother-in-law would come to blows. His “brawn” vs. Tyrion’s brains! Place your bets! ---
**Author:** ![jrepka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee59a6/32.png) [@jrepka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jrepka)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/132 "2013-06-11T04:28:28Z")
When Jon looks up from the creek to see Ygritte with an arrow aimed at him, I couldn’t help but think of John Belushi looking up to see Carrie Fisher with an RPG aimed at his head: _“You know I love you, baby. I wouldn’t leave ya. It wasn’t my fault… Honest… I ran out of gas! I–I had a flat tire! I didn’t have enough money for cab fare! My tux didn’t come back from the cleaners! An old friend came in from out of town! Someone stole my car! There was an earthquake! A terrible flood! Locusts! IT WASN’T MY FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD!!!”_ ---
**Author:** ![jrepka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee59a6/32.png) [@jrepka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jrepka)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/133 "2013-06-11T04:39:50Z")
Davos seems confused by the silent _“g”_ in the word _ **night** _. Considering his reading lessons included histories of Westeros, how has he not encountered references to _ **knights** _? ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/134 "2013-06-11T04:59:16Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Bastards can’t inherit. Jon Snow has never been and cannot be an heir to Winterfell. After Bron & Rickon it’s Sansa, then Ayra. Yeah, but one of the messages of GoT seems to be that “power” matters far more than “the law”. Jamie Lannister broke his oath to the King yet other than earning a nasty nickname, nothing happened to him because the people able to enforce the law couldn’t care. Similarly, and more relevant to the comparison, according to the laws, Renly had no claim on the throne in comparison to his older brother, but were it not for Melisandre and her shadow baby the throne would have been his. Why? Because he had an army backing up his claim. Conversely, Danny’s brother, who’s name escapes me, may have had a great legal claim to the throne, but because he had no army, it was irrelevant. Now, if Jon gets an army of 30,000 people then he has a claim on the throne and that’s vastly more relevant than whatever the law declares. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/135 "2013-06-11T05:36:44Z")
> [@jrepka](#): > > Davos seems confused by the silent _“g”_ in the word _ **night** _. Considering his reading lessons included histories of Westeros, how has he not encountered references to _ **knights** _? He has probably encountered it before, maybe nobody has corrected his mispronunciation of it before. The last episode was a bit flat, but overall a great season. That said the season did suffer from insufficient Bronn. Maybe that is why so many are typing Bronn instead of Bran/Brandon, deep down their subliminal mind wanted more Bronn. ---
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/136 "2013-06-11T09:03:58Z")
Did anyone else catch that the Bolton bastard who’s torturing Theon was named Snow? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/137 "2013-06-11T09:11:36Z")
That’s the standard for bastards in the North. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/138 "2013-06-11T11:20:48Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Bastards can’t inherit. Jon Snow has never been and cannot be an heir to Winterfell. After Bron & Rickon it’s Sansa, then Ayra. Sure. But what if we find out who the mother is, and it’s someone with a title? It’s all speculation, but there’s an awful lot of plot exposition dedicated to Jon Snow for there not to be something more to find. ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/139 "2013-06-11T12:02:07Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Sure. But what if we find out who the mother is, and it’s someone with a title? Then he would still be a bastard, only way for him to not be a bastard would be if his parents were married. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/140 "2013-06-11T12:20:03Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Sure. But what if we find out who the mother is, and it’s someone with a title? It’s all speculation, but there’s an awful lot of plot exposition dedicated to Jon Snow for there not to be something more to find. He’d still be a bastard. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539.md?page=8)