# Game of Thrones 3.10 "Mhysa" 6/9/2013 No book discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 9, 2013, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539 "2013-06-09T11:27:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/161 "2013-06-11T19:28:17Z")
The other day I watched a couple of episodes of GOT for the first time. I had no idea what was going on, since apparently this show has been running for a few years, and it has _very_ long story arcs, but I was pretty impressed. I liked it a lot. And I was very pleasantly surprised to see one of my favorite actresses, Sibel Kekilli, in what I think is a pretty prominent role. She’s the girlfriend (“mistress” might be a better word) of the character played by Peter Dinklage (Tyrion?). I have a vague memory of posting about her a few years ago in a thread about beautiful but unknown (to Americans) actresses. She’s still astoundingly beautiful. Looks like she’s had a nose job, though, and I can’t figure out why she would do that. She had an incredibly beautiful face (still does, but not quite the _same_ face). ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/162 "2013-06-11T19:30:09Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Was his name Geoffrey in the books or something? Book readers seem to have a mental block preventing them from typing Joffrey. > > (I keep reading it as Jeffrey – which is how Geoffrey is pronounced – and pausing a beat trying to figure out who Jeff is.) No, it’s Joffrey in all sources. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/163 "2013-06-11T19:30:49Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Was his name Geoffrey in the books or something? Book readers seem to have a mental block preventing them from typing Joffrey. > > (I keep reading it as Jeffrey – which is how Geoffrey is pronounced – and pausing a beat trying to figure out who Jeff is.) Pretty sure it’s not the book readers that are spelling it Geoffrey. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/164 "2013-06-11T19:46:02Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Sam, Sam, Sam. You killed a fricking White Walker. You’re a bona fide badass. You can stop being so goddamn goony all the time ! He did assert his shit back at Castle Black and told the maester recognize, bitch! In his own way. [QUOTE=Cuckoorex] I was also under the impression that Shadowbaby was made from, ahem, other bodily fluids from Stannis in S2. But maybe Shadowbabies made from that method don’t have enough range or something. [/quote] Milesandre said that Stannis was no longer powerful enough to make another shadowbaby. Really they have to be careful with the whole magic blood shit. Otherwise it will turn into a giant deux ex vaginia. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/165 "2013-06-11T19:57:32Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > It was during the Small Council meeting in the last episode. Joffrey was being his usual charming self, Tyrion threatened him, Joffrey blustered, Tywin said something to calm the situation and Joffrey said, “While [so-and-so] was killing the king, you were hiding under Casterly Rock.” Immediately after this, he went silent. I think after this, Tywin sent him to bed with a warm glass of milk (or essence of nightshade). It was especially funny because Joffrey is railing about how his father was out conqueroring (sp?) and everyone at that table knows that Robert wasn’t his actual father. Also, the one time I felt bad for Joffrey was when he talks to his father on his deathbed. Joffrey looked devastated. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/166 "2013-06-11T20:11:36Z")
> [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > …And I was very pleasantly surprised to see one of my favorite actresses, Sibel Kekilli, in what I think is a pretty prominent role. She’s the girlfriend (“mistress” might be a better word) of the character played by Peter Dinklage (Tyrion?)… I think “concubine” is more apt given the power & status differential between them. Even though they technically mean the same thing “mistress” makes it sound like he has her set up in a house somewhere when she’s literally working as a maid. > [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > It was especially funny because Joffrey is railing about how his father was out conqueroring (sp?) and everyone at that table knows that Robert wasn’t his actual father… Not to mention that Robert _became king_ by leading a successful rebellion \*against a king \*who took his subjects’ obedience for granted and also though everyone was his to torment. Clearly modern history wasn’t Joffrey’s best subject. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/167 "2013-06-11T20:33:17Z")
Good episode, all in all. I liked Roose’s and Walder’s chat in the great hall of the Twins as the blood was mopped up, and Tyrion’s and Tywin’s chilly discussion about duty to family. I’m digging the dynamic between the Hound and Arya; he’s only mildly annoyed that she took his knife and didn’t tell him what she had in mind with the four Frey mooks; he really seems to admire her for her guts. Good to have the Bolton bastard finally identified. A very nice scene with Varys urging Shae to leave, too. A whole 'nother season behind us, though, and still no big, LOTR-scale, army-against-army battle scene. You’d think they could afford the CGI for what’s supposed to be a continent-wide _war_, after all. > [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Jaqen H’gar (the murder genie) gave it to her last season… Heh. “Murder genie.” > [@DigitalC](#): > > Yeah, when Jon Snow says “I don’t know a lot of things but i know you won’t shoot me” you pretty much have to. Clearly he hasn’t seen many Mafia movies, or Westerns. > [@rockle](#): > > I have decided that Ser Davos the Onion Knight is my spirit animal – seriously, I think he is just THE BEST and I love his interactions with Stannis’s daughter… Yes, he and Brienne are just about the only two (almost) unreservedly “good” characters of the whole epic. I love Davos. > [@AuntiePam](#): > > Anyone else giggle at Davos and “nigget”? Shades of Monty Python. I missed that. Good catch. > [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > I certainly don’t think Ygritte put three arrows in Jon to help his story, but I do think if she wanted him dead, he’d be dead. > > I think she was caught between her duty and her love for him and as a result injured rather than killed him. Exactly. That is one conflicted hawt ginger Wildling. > [@Kobal2](#): > > Sure, but on _that_ one [the Red Priestess] was being ridiculous and fraud-y. It’s not like the dead rising in the North is a new thing, it’s been happening since season one. And just now she “sees it in the flames” ? \*30 seconds ago \*she was speechifying about having to make big sacrifices to get Stannis the Iron Throne, and then “Oh, this war of Five Kings is bullshit, there’s a much bigger threat, I knew that !” ? > > Come on. Exactly. I thought Stannis was gonna have whiplash from how quickly she was shifting his geopolitical focus. > [@clairobscur](#): > > …Ygritte and Jon. Good and surprising scene (Yes, I’ve read the books but I didn’t remember this scene, or it has been changed in the show)… > [@EllisDee](#): > > Was his name Geoffrey in the books or something? Book readers seem to have a mental block preventing them from typing Joffrey… Ahem. Read the OP again. _There are no books_. ---
**Author:** ![Kyrie\_Eleison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kyrie_eleison/32/7682_2.png) [@Kyrie\_Eleison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyrie_Eleison)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/168 "2013-06-11T20:38:47Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > To be honest i don’t quite remember if this has been covered on the show or not, i want to say yes but i am not 100% sure. You’re safe. Jaime reveals this while talking to Brienne. It was in “Bear and the Maiden Fair,” I think. ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/169 "2013-06-11T20:48:49Z")
[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir] A whole 'nother season behind us, though, and still no big, LOTR-scale, army-against-army battle scene. You’d think they could afford the CGI for what’s supposed to be a continent-wide war, after all. [/QUOTE] Personally, I don’t particularly mind the lack of Giant Setpiece Battles. Character development, plotting, and even individual fights that I can actually follow the action in are more interesting to me. But that aside, I think the war is in a bit of a “sitzkrieg” phase right now anyway; there are no giant battles on screen because there are no giant battles taking place in Westeros. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/170 "2013-06-11T21:35:12Z")
> [@Kyrie\_Eleison](#): > > You’re safe. Jaime reveals this while talking to Brienne. It was in “Bear and the Maiden Fair,” I think. Thanks, i was almost sure but things tend to blur together at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/171 "2013-06-11T21:55:13Z")
Hot off the intrawebs… [If Game Of Thrones took place entirely on Facebook: Season 3 Finale.](http://www.happyplace.com/24434/game-of-thrones-facebook-recap-season-3-episode-10) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/172 "2013-06-11T22:06:08Z")
Two bookstores cope with the RW: [Bookstores Use Dark Humor To Cope With "Red Wedding"](http://www.buzzfeed.com/donnad/bookstores-use-dark-humor-to-cope-with-red-wedding) ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/173 "2013-06-11T23:01:23Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Pretty sure it’s not the book readers that are spelling it Geoffrey. I thought it was multiple people but it appears to just be **clairobscur** in multiple posts. > [@clairobscur](#): > > it doesn’t bother us because we hate Geoffrey > […] > Note : I’ve read the books > [@clairobscur](#): > > Now, the good stuff : The small council scene, with the Geoffrey/Tyrion and Geoffrey/Tywin clashes. > […] > Ygritte and Jon. Good and surprising scene (Yes, I’ve read the books ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/174 "2013-06-11T23:36:31Z")
> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > Hot off the intrawebs… > > [If Game Of Thrones took place entirely on Facebook: Season 3 Finale.](http://www.happyplace.com/24434/game-of-thrones-facebook-recap-season-3-episode-10) **Jojen Reed** : Sorry, we’re headed to the place we’ve been plodding towards all through Season 3, an actual plotline in Season 4. _– **Ten Million Viewers** like this_ and… **Gendry** : Um, I’m a virgin, who just a season ago, was being sent to a celibate order of guards and then Red comes at me totally NSFW. Any man with a penis would be helpless to resist. _– **Theon Greyjoy** really doesn’t like this._ ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2013, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/175 "2013-06-12T02:08:29Z")
Heheheheh. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2013, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/176 "2013-06-12T03:56:06Z")
Need to watch again, but: what’s the “shift” part? Guess I missed it. Who are Eldrick Sarsfield and Desmond Crakehall? Googling doesn’t really help. Mostly just foreign subtitles files for this episode. I love that the phantom cock part was a TED talk. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2013, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/177 "2013-06-12T03:59:10Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > Need to watch again, but: what’s the “shift” part? Guess I missed it. > > Who are Eldrick Sarsfield and Desmond Crakehall? Googling doesn’t really help. Mostly just foreign subtitles files for this episode. I think the “shift” was Sansa being too much of a lady to say “shit”, but that exchange was a bit hard to decipher. I don’t think those two names are anyone we’ve met – they’re just names Sansa dropped. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2013, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/178 "2013-06-12T04:16:23Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > A whole 'nother season behind us, though, and still no big, LOTR-scale, army-against-army battle scene. You’d think they could afford the CGI for what’s supposed to be a continent-wide _war_, after all. What about last seasons Battle of the Blackwater? But other than that I agree with you. Each season feels like a buildup to a Battle of the Pelennor Fields that never happens. ---
**Author:** ![araminty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5e925/32.png) [@araminty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/araminty)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2013, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/179 "2013-06-12T04:37:36Z")
Huh. Theon is played by Alfie, (pop star) Lily Allen’s brother. I see it now! ---
**Author:** ![azraiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@azraiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/azraiel)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2013, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539/180 "2013-06-12T05:01:33Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Yes, he and Brienne are just about the only two (almost) unreservedly “good” characters of the whole epic. I love Davos. Don’t get too attached… I keed! I keed!\* I’ve read all of the ‘things that will not be mentioned’. But I’ll be damned if I remember much of anything about the series beyond the show timeline. Most of my mental space is reserved for my coursework, and I remember SFA (sweet fuck all) beyond the current TV series. It’s kind of thrilling to have that memory block, and to be a reader and watcher at the same time. I’m lovin’ it. \*and there really is no spoiler here. I couldn’t tell you Davos’ disposition if my life depended on it. Too long, too many courses, and too many beers ago… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-3-10-mhysa-6-9-2013-no-book-discussion/660539.md?page=10)