# Game of Thrones 4.01 "Two Swords" 4/6/14 \[NO SPOILERS - See sticky\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 6, 2014, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-01-two-swords-4-6-14-no-spoilers-see-sticky/685480 "2014-04-06T16:12:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2014, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-01-two-swords-4-6-14-no-spoilers-see-sticky/685480/1 "2014-04-06T16:12:54Z")
Last year’s threads: [3.01 Valar Dohaeris](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=686582) [3.02 Dark Wings, Dark Words](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=687488) [3.03 Walk of Punishment](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=688153) [3.04 And Now His Watch is Ended](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=688810) [3.05 Kissed by fire](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=689488) [3.06 The Climb](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=690141) [3.07 The Bear and the Maiden Fair](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=690748) [3.08 Second Sons](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16304681) [3.09 The Rains of Castamere](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16344817) [3.10 Mhysa](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=693333) I want to get this out of the way and be clear, since we had some problems at first but since we implemented these rules it’s been pretty smooth sailing. This thread is for discussion of the TV show as its own entity. There are other threads in which you can discuss the books and how the TV episodes relate to them - you’re welcome to participate in both, just keep this discussion about what a viewer of the TV show would know. All discussion about the current episode in the thread title and all previous episodes are open and unboxed - which is a duh, since that’s the point of this thread. There should be no spoiler boxes, since either the comment is either about the TV series and should be unboxed, or is about the book and doesn’t belong in the thread at all. No deciding for yourself what book information does or doesn’t constitute a spoiler - no outside information is welcome at all. Please don’t comment, complain, or argue about the rules in this thread - if you feel the need to do so, start a thread in ATMB about the policies of these threads, since this has been something we’ve had to get a handle on through modding before. Anyway, I don’t anticipate all that would be a problem - last year’s threads ran quite smoothly, but I wanted to get that out of the way for anyone new joining us this year. Anyway, it’s hard to wait a year for these things. Super excited for tonight. Edit: Just realized there was a thread pinned to Café Society addressing the rules [here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=719983) At the edge of my edit window so hopefully everything I’ve said is in line with them. I can’t re-title the thread, but what’s intended for this thread is in line with the “NO SPOILERS” section. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2014, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-01-two-swords-4-6-14-no-spoilers-see-sticky/685480/2 "2014-04-06T19:22:11Z")
I’m in a rather different position than many (most?) of the folks in these threads: I’ve read all of the books, but we don’t have HBO so I’m unable to watch the current season (we just finished watching Season 3 via NetFlix on Friday). For that reason, I rarely if ever post in the ‘Show Threads’, but I do love reading them to see the reactions as various things play out on screen. Valar Morghulis 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2014, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-01-two-swords-4-6-14-no-spoilers-see-sticky/685480/3 "2014-04-06T19:51:05Z")
Hodor ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2014, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-01-two-swords-4-6-14-no-spoilers-see-sticky/685480/4 "2014-04-06T20:56:09Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Hodor Oh, please. That comment is getting so trite that it makes me ju Hodor Hodor Hodor! Hodor? ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2014, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-01-two-swords-4-6-14-no-spoilers-see-sticky/685480/5 "2014-04-06T21:18:09Z")
I’m not sure what I’m most excited to see. Arya and the Hound have great chemistry, but having all the Lannisters in King’s Landing is pretty juicy as well. Maybe the Queen of Thorns’ sass beats both though? ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-01-two-swords-4-6-14-no-spoilers-see-sticky/685480/6 "2014-04-06T22:00:48Z")
Well, personally I can’t wait to see how they bring the character of Arthur “Two Swords” Jackson to life. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2014, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-01-two-swords-4-6-14-no-spoilers-see-sticky/685480/7 "2014-04-06T22:44:14Z")
Last season ended with Daenarys crowd surfing at a slave rave. I’m hoping this one starts with Tyrion and Sansa hosting a foam party as a combo of first married get-together/wake for her mother and brothers. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2014, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-01-two-swords-4-6-14-no-spoilers-see-sticky/685480/8 "2014-04-06T23:15:45Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Hodor You know nothing, M. Smith! ---
**Author:** ![PatriotGrrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9dc877/32.png) [@PatriotGrrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotGrrrl)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-01-two-swords-4-6-14-no-spoilers-see-sticky/685480/9 "2014-04-07T00:15:52Z")
Comcast on demand has a good half-hour “season 3 highlights” show, narrated by the actors. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-01-two-swords-4-6-14-no-spoilers-see-sticky/685480/10 "2014-04-07T00:36:43Z")
Can’t wait! I binge-rewatched season 3 recently. I wish each season were a few episodes longer, but I’ll take quality over quantity, if that’s the trade-off. Looking forward to find out what happens with Jon and the Wildling girl, and Arya and the Hound. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-01-two-swords-4-6-14-no-spoilers-see-sticky/685480/11 "2014-04-07T01:31:22Z")
Of course HBOgo is down. You think they’d fix this after it crashing every premier and finale. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-01-two-swords-4-6-14-no-spoilers-see-sticky/685480/12 "2014-04-07T02:00:04Z")
So who gets the second sword? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-01-two-swords-4-6-14-no-spoilers-see-sticky/685480/13 "2014-04-07T02:05:19Z")
New Daario doesn’t look at all like old Daario, they could’ve at least dyed his hair. Also he looks a lot like prince Oberyn. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-01-two-swords-4-6-14-no-spoilers-see-sticky/685480/14 "2014-04-07T02:05:31Z")
The show always ends about twenty minutes before I’m ready for it to. Arya’s smirk as she sat upon her own “pony” was chilling. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-01-two-swords-4-6-14-no-spoilers-see-sticky/685480/15 "2014-04-07T02:17:54Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > So who gets the second sword? Presumably Joffrey. At least that’s who I’d assume Tywin gives it to. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-01-two-swords-4-6-14-no-spoilers-see-sticky/685480/16 "2014-04-07T02:33:51Z")
Anybody notice Arya’s moves when she wielded the big sword? Like a dancer, just like Syrio Forel taught her. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-01-two-swords-4-6-14-no-spoilers-see-sticky/685480/17 "2014-04-07T02:35:41Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > New Daario doesn’t look at all like old Daario, they could’ve at least dyed his hair. Also he looks a lot like prince Oberyn. Yeah, why did Daario go from looking all Fabio to looking like the boyfriend of the week on How I Met Your Mother? Jamie is now in a mid-life crisis? At least Arya got her pony! ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-01-two-swords-4-6-14-no-spoilers-see-sticky/685480/18 "2014-04-07T02:37:56Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Presumably Joffrey. > > At least that’s who I’d assume Tywin gives it to. It would fit both his “keeping it in the family” and “fuck Tyrion” criteria. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-01-two-swords-4-6-14-no-spoilers-see-sticky/685480/19 "2014-04-07T02:38:22Z")
The actors playing the dragons have really grown during the break. ---
**Author:** ![Tixenfleaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9a140/32.png) [@Tixenfleaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tixenfleaz)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-01-two-swords-4-6-14-no-spoilers-see-sticky/685480/20 "2014-04-07T02:51:21Z")
Damn good fight in the tavern. I would’ve been a bit disappointed if Clegane simply waded through his opponents. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-01-two-swords-4-6-14-no-spoilers-see-sticky/685480.md?page=2)