# Game of Thrones 4.03 "Breaker of Chains" 4/20/14 \[No spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 21, 2014, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573 "2014-04-21T01:05:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/341 "2014-04-23T23:41:36Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > In season one Sansa has a conversation with her septa in which she asks what would happen if she only bore daughters for Joffrey. Her septa told her that the throne would pass to Tommen and not to her daughters. So available males of the family will always take preference over even direct female descendants. So if Tommen were to die I think Stannis would be the next in line, legally-speaking. Of course nobody would let that happen, but that’s the way it seems supposed to work. What the Targaryens follow known as [semi-Salic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male-preference_primogeniture#Semi-Salic_law) law (females can’t inherit until all male dynast are dead or excluded from succession for another reason). The lordships on the other hand follow the Andalish custom of [male preference primogeniture](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male-preference_primogeniture#Male-preference_cognatic_primogeniture); if there’s no sons the oldest daughter inherits ahead of any uncles or male cousins. It’s unclear if succession to the Iron Throne still follows semi-Salic law now that it’s a possession of House Baratheon, but in any even Stannis (who’s heir presumptive is his daughter Shireen) is in open rebellion against the crown so his claim is probably forfeit (from the perspective of anyone who considers Tommen & Myrcella as legitimate). Then there’s the Dornish with their [absolute primogeniture](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male-preference_primogeniture#Absolute_primogeniture) (eldest child inherits regardless of sex). ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/342 "2014-04-23T23:43:51Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > A fair point; but it may be that in Medieval Europe, Christianity was the only game on the block, whereas in Westeros there’s The Seven, The Old Gods, The Drowned God, the God of Light…lots of sects and cults. So maybe The Seven isn’t quite as ingrained as Christianity was. That is incorrect. For one thing, Christianity itself faced any number of splinter groups, internal divides (Avignon popes, anyone ?) and heresies ranging from the mundane (“we think the Virgin Mary was black”) to the brutal (“Jesus said charity was good and was poor himself, [so we’ll kill anybody who owns private property](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraticelli)”) For another, even in the MA Christianity had to \*work \*at becoming mainstream throughout, well, Christendom. Cathars in southern France, the Old Gods in Scandinavia and Eastern Europe, Islam spreading in Spain and southern Italy… or just old diehard local superstitions or ancient rituals. You might know about those since you still practice some that the Catholic Church basically threw its hands up at : Easter eggs, maypoles, Christmas, Halloween… ---
**Author:** ![Vashbul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Vashbul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vashbul)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/343 "2014-04-23T23:48:32Z")
… Hanukkah… ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/344 "2014-04-23T23:51:55Z")
🙂 ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2014, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/345 "2014-04-23T23:55:27Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > (My other major complaint is that the entire corpus of maneuverings and plots and counter-plots and conspiracies and ploys taking place in Westeros, is pretty much _meaningless_ if Dany shows up there with the dragons and an army of yea-many million ex-slaves. Game _over_, dudes!) I think you may be overstating Dany’s forces. First of all, pre-industrial armies were numbered in the tens of thousands of men, or very, very rarely, the hundreds of thousands (e.g., Napoleon’s Grande Armee). In this very episode, IIRC, Stannis and the Onion Knight were discussing their lack of forces; the possibility of getting ten thousand mercenaries was seen as a game changer. And, considering what we’ve seen on screen, this sounds about right. (Someone with more time on their hands than I could probably determine the exact size of Dany’s army with one of those scenes where they all line up in nice boxes.) In fact, now that I’m thinking about it, I think Dany’s numbers were actually mentioned at some point in the previous seasons, but I’d guess it at somewhere between ten and twenty thousand. While the folks in Westeros are recovering from the recent war, I imagine they can put together this many, give or take a few. Second, even assuming she has a numerical advantage, numbers alone do not win wars. I don’t think we’ve seen her troops in action yet, so their reputation is for now, only words–it is not solid. (\) We don’t know how they are at tactics or really even strategy. And really, none of that is all that important, because what really wins wars is logistics, and I cannot see that that’s going to be easy for them once they launch the Westerosi D-Day invasion. The dragons are worth a good deal, I admit, but they’re not enough to tip the scales on their own either. So, I wouldn’t count Westeros out just yet. Dany’s got a lot on her side, but it’s not a done deal. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/346 "2014-04-24T00:04:58Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > (My other major complaint is that the entire corpus of maneuverings and plots and counter-plots and conspiracies and ploys taking place in Westeros, is pretty much _meaningless_ if Dany shows up there with the dragons and an army of yea-many million ex-slaves. Game _over_, dudes!) > > ((Which, I assume, means that the yea-many millions of troops will NOT make it to Westeros. Or will perish shortly after reaching shore. Which is getting way ahead of this episode (and I type all this as a non-reader of the books, of course)—but certainly that development will render the ‘freeing the slaves’ scenes in this episode quite moot.)) It’s not just Danny either, there is an army of evil beings that can raise zombies coming and the armies of men are fighting each other. The first two lines of defence (the nightswatch and the northmen) are already in shambles. Which probably means she will not be a conqueror but a savior and those millions of ex slaves might make it there after all. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/347 "2014-04-24T00:08:11Z")
Some things Dany’s army has going for her are their discipline and fearlessness. I’m not too knowledgeable on the subject of ancient warfare but I was under the impression that more-or-less the army that lost was the one that started running away first which didn’t always align with who had the greater numbers. Her force will basically never retreat and it seems likely that every last Unsullied will fight on, remaining in formation, until killed. But ultimately I don’t think that would matter too much given the numbers all of Westeros could likely raise in response to a foreign invasion. What really matters are her dragons, which aren’t too impressive in the grand scheme of things for the moment. But fully grown there wouldn’t be a lot that could stop them. Giant creatures with skulls the size of school buses that can just make flyby attacks with fire (see: Harrenhal - Tywin described it as the greatest fortress ever built and even it couldn’t protect its inhabitants from dragonfire). It won the war for the Targaryens the first time around. I imagine the way to beat them is with concentrated fire from a group of large ballistae or something like that. You’d have to pray your crews could fire them pretty accurately because once the dragons notice they’re being attacked with them they’re gonna fly over and roast 'em. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/348 "2014-04-24T00:13:27Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > (My other major complaint is that the entire corpus of maneuverings and plots and counter-plots and conspiracies and ploys taking place in Westeros, is pretty much _meaningless_ if Dany shows up there with the dragons and an army of yea-many million ex-slaves. Game _over_, dudes!) > > ((Which, I assume, means that the yea-many millions of troops will NOT make it to Westeros. Or will perish shortly after reaching shore. Which is getting way ahead of this episode (and I type all this as a non-reader of the books, of course)—but certainly that development will render the ‘freeing the slaves’ scenes in this episode quite moot.)) I don’t think Dany really has that many troops. She has two groups of warriors, the remaining Dothraki and the Unsullied. There were 40,000 wariors in Drogo’s khalasar. She bought around 8,000 Unsullied. If 10% of the Dothraki stayed with her, and I think that’s being extremely generous, then she’d have one of the smallest armies in Westeros. I think half of the Lannister army was 30,000 troops. Now, throw in the dragons and it gets more interesting, but I think that at their current sizes a group of archers would be able to take them out. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/349 "2014-04-24T00:16:54Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > As for the potatoes: it’s a fair thing to mention, given that the world of GoT gains verisimilitude precisely because it IS based on medieval Europe. (To repeat: Not IS Medieval Europe–is _based_ on it.) We buy into the whole shebang of kings and lords and knights and peasants _because_ it’s familiar. > > Which leads to one of my top annoyances about Martin’s world: among the most important and influential factors that made ‘Medieval Europe’ the way it was, was the power of The Church. Martin’s version of The Church seems to be brought in only every once in a while when the feeling evoked by ‘a ceremony in a cathedral’ is needed for a scene. Otherwise, it’s irrelevant. I gotta say, I just don’t understand this objection. Westeros is familiar, yes, because it has many similarities with medieval Europe. It also has differences. Among the differences are some that are supernatural (dragons, white walkers, shadow babies), and some that are more prosaic (potatoes, less power for the church). Why is that second list being empty something to be strived for? > [@](#): > > (My other major complaint is that the entire corpus of maneuverings and plots and counter-plots and conspiracies and ploys taking place in Westeros, is pretty much meaningless if Dany shows up there with the dragons and an army of yea-many million ex-slaves. Game over, dudes!) I think it’s intentional on GRRM’s part that all of the people who are “playing the Game of Thrones” (Littlefinger, Tywin, the Tyrells) who think they are maneuvering to be king of the world are basically fighting to see who gets to be the captain of the Titanic. Doesn’t mean the story can’t be entertaining, and it doesn’t mean that it’s TOTALLY irrelevant who (if anyone) ends up on top. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/350 "2014-04-24T00:19:46Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > What really matters are her dragons, which aren’t too impressive in the grand scheme of things for the moment. But fully grown there wouldn’t be a lot that could stop them. Giant creatures with skulls the size of school buses that can just make flyby attacks with fire (see: Harrenhal - Tywin described it as the greatest fortress ever built and even it couldn’t protect its inhabitants from dragonfire). It won the war for the Targaryens the first time around. I imagine the way to beat them is with concentrated fire from a group of large ballistae or something like that. You’d have to pray your crews could fire them pretty accurately because once the dragons notice they’re being attacked with them they’re gonna fly over and roast 'em. This is why i love GoT history lessons, when Tywin was talking to Oberyn he mentioned Danny and that the Dornish had managed to resist the initial conquest by the Targaryens. It would be very interesting to learn how they managed that, those were full grown super bad ass dragons with Targaryen riders. ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/351 "2014-04-24T00:31:57Z")
Facebook [recap](http://happyplace.someecards.com/30782/game-of-thrones-facebook-recap-season-4-episode-3) is up. "HBO has posted a Milestone. Nudity barrier broken: Underdick" ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/352 "2014-04-24T00:41:17Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > I think it’s intentional on GRRM’s part that all of the people who are “playing the Game of Thrones” (Littlefinger, Tywin, the Tyrells) who think they are maneuvering to be king of the world are basically fighting to see who gets to be the captain of the Titanic. Doesn’t mean the story can’t be entertaining, and it doesn’t mean that it’s TOTALLY irrelevant who (if anyone) ends up on top. This is definitely a major theme. It reminds me of H. H. Munro’s story _The Interlopers_ about two men, members of opposing families, who find themselves trapped beneath the same fallen tree deep in a forest at night. First they spend a while making threats about how each of their respective families will find them first and deal with the other, but eventually they start talking about how they plan on inviting one another to their homes and showing one another how generous and hospitable they each are. It’s all shown to be a pointless vanity when a pack of wolves arrives before either of their families. > [@DigitalC](#): > > This is why i love GoT history lessons, when Tywin was talking to Oberyn he mentioned Danny and that the Dornish had managed to resist the initial conquest by the Targaryens. It would be very interesting to learn how they managed that, those were full grown super bad ass dragons with Targaryen riders. PM sent. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/353 "2014-04-24T00:48:56Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > (My other major complaint is that the entire corpus of maneuverings and plots and counter-plots and conspiracies and ploys taking place in Westeros, is pretty much _meaningless_ if Dany shows up there with the dragons and an army of yea-many million ex-slaves. Game _over_, dudes!) > > ((Which, I assume, means that the yea-many millions of troops will NOT make it to Westeros. Or will perish shortly after reaching shore. Which is getting way ahead of this episode (and I type all this as a non-reader of the books, of course)—but certainly that development will render the ‘freeing the slaves’ scenes in this episode quite moot.)) > [@jsc1953](#): > > I have the same feeling about Dany’s story: it’s like we’re watching some minor squabble between medieval European fiefdoms; meanwhile, a nuclear armed Red Army is massing on the eastern border, ready to kick ass and take names. But I’m perfectly willing to go along for the ride and see how it plays out. > [@Sherrerd](#): > > Excellent analogy! …Those who read the books may know how Martin plans to solve this little problem…or then again, given hints I’ve heard here and there, possibly he hasn’t yet tackled it. :eek: > > But the television showrunners will HAVE to (eventually). A couple things you guys might not be considering in your assessments of Dany just rolling over Westeros: 1. That ancient buried stuff that Sam found, and with which he was easily able to kill the WW. Wasn’t it called Dragon-something? I know there was some tie-in with the word “dragon” mentioned by somebody. For the people wishing Sam and Gilly would just get written out already, I’ve got the feeling this plot-line is why he’ll matter, eventually. It might even be soon that Jon Snow goes looking for more of those relics on his (their?) seemingly impending trip North of the wall. They’ll need some sort of defenses against any more of those baddies they’re likely to run into. 2. Mellisandre has got all kinds of tricks up her, uhh, _sleeve_. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/354 "2014-04-24T00:55:02Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > A couple things you guys might not be considering in your assessments of Dany just rolling over Westeros: > > 1. That ancient buried stuff that Sam found, and with which he was easily able to kill the WW. Wasn’t it called Dragon-something? I know there was some tie-in with the word “dragon” mentioned by somebody. For the people wishing Sam and Gilly would just get written out already, I’ve got the feeling this plot-line is why he’ll matter, eventually. It might even be soon that Jon Snow goes looking for more of those relics on his (their?) seemingly impending trip North of the wall. They’ll need some sort of defenses against any more of those baddies they’re likely to run into. Dragonglass is obsidian. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/355 "2014-04-24T00:59:21Z")
> [@LawMonkey](#): > > I think you may be overstating Dany’s forces. First of all, pre-industrial armies were numbered in the tens of thousands of men, or very, very rarely, the hundreds of thousands (e.g., Napoleon’s Grande Armee). In this very episode, IIRC, Stannis and the Onion Knight were discussing their lack of forces; the possibility of getting ten thousand mercenaries was seen as a game changer. And, considering what we’ve seen on screen, this sounds about right. (Someone with more time on their hands than I could probably determine the exact size of Dany’s army with one of those scenes where they all line up in nice boxes.) In fact, now that I’m thinking about it, I think Dany’s numbers were actually mentioned at some point in the previous seasons, but I’d guess it at somewhere between ten and twenty thousand. … > [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > I don’t think Dany really has that many troops. She has two groups of warriors, the remaining Dothraki and the Unsullied. There were 40,000 wariors in Drogo’s khalasar. She bought around 8,000 Unsullied. If 10% of the Dothraki stayed with her, and I think that’s being extremely generous, then she’d have one of the smallest armies in Westeros. I think half of the Lannister army was 30,000 troops. … I’m just going by the show, in which we’ve seen Dany do the \*Approach a City-State and Free its Slaves \*thing more than once. Many viewers have speculated that the character won’t be allowed to reach Westeros for a couple more seasons. Because…The Books. So on the theory, mentioned earlier in the thread, that the showrunners have to give these performers SOMETHING to do even though there’s no real story for them, yet…well, it seemed quite possible that Dany would go on freeing slaves and building her army. Thus the “yea-many millions” figure for the presumed seasons-in-the-future confrontation. Twenty more episodes-worth of impassioned calls for Freedom And Justice could result in a pretty large number of loincloth-clad followers. Of course the story may go elsewhere. Perhaps the army of freed slaves will tire of all that tramping around Essos. Perhaps they’ll go off and form an autonomous collective, leaving Dany on her own to (perforce) join in The Game herself. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/356 "2014-04-24T01:12:17Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > Dragonglass is obsidian. Or something very much like it. > [@Sherrerd](#): > > I’m just going by the show, in which we’ve seen Dany do the \*Approach a City-State and Free its Slaves \*thing more than once. Many viewers have speculated that the character won’t be allowed to reach Westeros for a couple more seasons. Because…The Books… Please read the OP again, and say nothing about any books. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/357 "2014-04-24T01:15:47Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Or something very much like it. [Sam finding dragonglass.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca2-q541rOQ) Sam: “It must be dragonglass!” Grenn: “Dragonglass?” Sam: “The maesters call it osbidian.” ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/358 "2014-04-24T01:24:11Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > [Sam finding dragonglass.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca2-q541rOQ) > > Sam: “It must be dragonglass!” > Grenn: “Dragonglass?” > Sam: “The maesters call it osbidian.” Yeah but is obsidian part dragonglass? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/359 "2014-04-24T01:24:20Z")
Ah, thanks. I’d forgotten there was an explicit reference to it. Of course, it might be a little different in Westeros. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/360 "2014-04-24T01:28:05Z")
> [@LawMonkey](#): > > Facebook [recap](http://happyplace.someecards.com/30782/game-of-thrones-facebook-recap-season-4-episode-3) is up. That was the best one this season. “Home is where you shoot your snotrocket.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573.md?page=19)