# Game of Thrones 4.03 "Breaker of Chains" 4/20/14 \[No spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 21, 2014, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573 "2014-04-21T01:05:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/381 "2014-04-24T12:44:53Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > …why? It’s a fictional world. If they suddenly revealed the Bubble Gum Guild of Mereen it might be jarring but—meh. It was just a joke. ---
**Author:** ![tim-n-va](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim-n-va/32/3001_2.png) [@tim-n-va](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim-n-va)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/382 "2014-04-24T12:50:21Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > What if they eat the tomato after raping somebody? And if they are raping someone who is part dragon? ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/383 "2014-04-24T12:56:50Z")
> [@tim-n-va](#): > > And if they are raping someone who is part dragon? Wait a minute, I think I’ve discovered the whole point of the series. I’ve put it behind ten spoiler boxes to protect the readers of this thread: Half-dragon half-tomato hybrids. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/384 "2014-04-24T13:24:23Z")
We’re going to have to keep a sharp eye out for any new world plants – corn, potatoes, chilis, vanilla, tobacco, avocado, peanuts, blueberries, vanilla, pumpkins, cashews, chocolate, tomatoes, pineapples, sunflowers, squash, zucchini, … ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/385 "2014-04-24T13:44:21Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > We’re going to have to keep a sharp eye out for any new world plants – corn, potatoes, chilis, vanilla, tobacco, avocado, peanuts, blueberries, vanilla, pumpkins, cashews, chocolate, tomatoes, pineapples, sunflowers, squash, zucchini, … Gonna make Daenerys’ invasion pretty short : Dothraki horde lands in Westeros. Catches smallpox. Is wiped out in a month. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/386 "2014-04-24T13:53:29Z")
She doesn’t have a Dothraki horde anymore. And all Unsullied are inoculated during training. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/387 "2014-04-24T13:59:55Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I found it sort of cute when Daenerys did her “I’m going to offer you a false choice to make me feel better about myself” thing again. Like when she gave the unsullied a choice to follow her - a group of people who couldn’t even comprehend what she was offering or make a meaningful choice after what she’d been through, and also a group who had just seen her not only betray someone she just made a fair deal with, but murder everyone. This time she called for a volunteer, and then dismissed everyone else so that she was effectively ordering Daario to fight. But if he ended up dying, she could make herself feel better because she prodded him into volunteering. I was wondering about that. Daenerys is going to these cities, saying to the slaves that they can kill their masters and be free, and then walking among them as their queen. So is she offering true freedom to those she has freed? Perhaps we’re not seeing the scene in which some of the freed slaves opt to stay in the city as free people while others choose to join her army? ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/388 "2014-04-24T15:19:51Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Perhaps we’re not seeing the scene in which some of the freed slaves opt to stay in the city as free people while others choose to join her army? We saw her offer freedom to the unsullied, and her former-slave adviser (Misandrei?) is now no longer a slave. I think it’s pretty strongly implied that plenty of the people she has saved are doing things other than follow her around. Certainly it doesn’t seem that the entire slave population of Junkai is just trundling through the desert after her. ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/389 "2014-04-24T16:17:47Z")
Fancy, blondie standing outside another city talking at the ramparts. Plus, all is well at the brothel, the miserable redhead returns, Sansa looks worried/vacant, the guys on the wall are worried, ugly man and girl bicker, that other feller wants build another army … at least Jamie unsheathed his sword. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/390 "2014-04-24T16:28:18Z")
> [@BrokenBriton](#): > > Fancy, blondie standing outside another city talking at the ramparts. … In real life, if a woman was standing outside a city yelling at the ramparts, how much of it would be audible? I picture something much like Life of Brian’s Sermon on the Mount…“blessed are the cheesemakers?” ---
**Author:** ![SecretaryofEvil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SecretaryofEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecretaryofEvil)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/391 "2014-04-24T16:45:32Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > In real life, if a woman was standing outside a city yelling at the ramparts, how much of it would be audible? I picture something much like Life of Brian’s Sermon on the Mount…“blessed are the cheesemakers?” I was wondering the same thing. I suppose that’s why the catapult propaganda was necessary. Most of the slaves couldn’t hear Dany, but they must have heard rumors about an army and dragons freeing slaves. That’s a pretty sensational story, so I imagine the bombardment of broken collars was to give the slaves confirmation that the rumors are true. The headcount for Dany’s army is: 8000 Unsullied 2000 Mercenaries from the Second Sons 2 awesome old dudes from Westeros 3 Dragons Dany freed more than 100,000 slaves in Yunkai alone, and while some of them seem to be following Dany’s army, we don’t know if all or even most them are. I assumed a lot of them stayed in Yunkai or Astapor, just sort of taking over their dead masters’ farms and businesses. ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/392 "2014-04-24T17:27:18Z")
my kinda gal _swoon_. Also, it went a bit Harrison Ford when the guy on the horse charged forward. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/393 "2014-04-24T17:27:38Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > She doesn’t have a Dothraki horde anymore. And all Unsullied are inoculated during training. Dude, the word is “emasculated”, not “inoculated”. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/394 "2014-04-24T17:45:05Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > She doesn’t have a Dothraki horde anymore. And all Unsullied are inoculated during training. She has a few Dothraki still. At least they were on her boat when she went to Yunkai. Maybe like 20 or so. ---
**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/395 "2014-04-24T17:50:38Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > She has a few Dothraki still. At least they were on her boat when she went to Yunkai. Maybe like 20 or so. Yeah, the slaver who sold her the Unsullied offered to take some Dothraki off her hands - I believe he said he’d use them as pig feed or something like that. As far as I know, he never got them. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/396 "2014-04-24T17:55:53Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > She has a few Dothraki still. At least they were on her boat when she went to Yunkai. Maybe like 20 or so. Oh, yeah. But I wouldn’t call them a “horde.” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/397 "2014-04-24T18:14:05Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > People are already bitching about Dany and her peeps prancing around, not yet playing much of a part in the Game of Thrones. I doubt detailing her army’s mundane logistics would be much of a crowd-pleaser. For sure. (Though ‘mundane logistics’ don’t seem to be a feature of any of the other GoT story-threads, either. Hand-waving abounds.) The real trouble with the Dany story-line is what was pointed out a few pages back: she’s a total Mary-Sue. She’s Brave, Noble, Good, Kind, Just, and Dull. Also, everyone around her either dies or becomes Totally Devoted. Her scenes are 100% snooze. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/398 "2014-04-24T18:40:03Z")
Oh, I don’t mind her. I wouldn’t mind more dragon scenes, though. Spelling tip: it’s “Jaime.” ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/399 "2014-04-24T18:42:47Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > Oh, yeah. But I wouldn’t call them a “horde.” 😉 Fine. It’s a hordette. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573/400 "2014-04-24T19:05:41Z")
The scene with the champion would’ve been more dramatic if during the charge, a dragon had just swooped down and bit the head off Mereen’s champion. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-03-breaker-of-chains-4-20-14-no-spoilers/686573.md?page=21)