# Game of Thrones 4.06 "The Laws of Gods and Men" 5/11/14 NO SPOILERS **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 11, 2014, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-06-the-laws-of-gods-and-men-5-11-14-no-spoilers/688219 "2014-05-11T23:59:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-06-the-laws-of-gods-and-men-5-11-14-no-spoilers/688219/1 "2014-05-11T23:59:19Z")
[4.01 Two Swords](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=720244) [4.02 The Lion and The Rose](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=720815) [4.03 Breaker of Chains](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=721412) [4.04 Oathkeeper](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=722036) [4.05 First of His Name](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=722597) [Rules sticky](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=719983) ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-06-the-laws-of-gods-and-men-5-11-14-no-spoilers/688219/2 "2014-05-12T00:07:11Z")
Man, how do I screw up the title every week? 5/11/14. Not worth reporting though, close enough šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-06-the-laws-of-gods-and-men-5-11-14-no-spoilers/688219/3 "2014-05-12T01:58:17Z")
Great episode! Canā€™t wait for next week. ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-06-the-laws-of-gods-and-men-5-11-14-no-spoilers/688219/4 "2014-05-12T02:02:20Z")
Well, that was the performance of Peter Dinklageā€™s career. Holy crap. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-06-the-laws-of-gods-and-men-5-11-14-no-spoilers/688219/5 "2014-05-12T02:03:26Z")
ā€œYou will father children that are named Lannisterā€ whoa, just drop that right in there Tywin. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-06-the-laws-of-gods-and-men-5-11-14-no-spoilers/688219/6 "2014-05-12T02:03:29Z")
Dumb question, but did the goatherdā€™s son survive the dragon raid? Were the bones the goatherd presented that of a goat or his son? Did Danyā€™s translator spare her from knowing that her dragon killed a child? OK, that was more than one question, but I think you get the idea. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-06-the-laws-of-gods-and-men-5-11-14-no-spoilers/688219/7 "2014-05-12T02:04:35Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Dumb question, but did the goatherdā€™s son survive the dragon raid? Were the bones the goatherd presented that of a goat or his son? Did Danyā€™s translator spare her from knowing that her dragon killed a child? > > OK, that was more than one question, but I think you get the idea. The man seemed grateful. I doubt heā€™d be that grateful if he was paid in goats for a killed son. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-06-the-laws-of-gods-and-men-5-11-14-no-spoilers/688219/8 "2014-05-12T02:05:53Z")
That was clearly a goat. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-06-the-laws-of-gods-and-men-5-11-14-no-spoilers/688219/9 "2014-05-12T02:12:04Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Dumb question, but did the goatherdā€™s son survive the dragon raid? Were the bones the goatherd presented that of a goat or his son? Did Danyā€™s translator spare her from knowing that her dragon killed a child? > > OK, that was more than one question, but I think you get the idea. The question I had about that scene is, didnā€™t she ever hear of appointing judges? Iā€™m no expert, but if she has to hear 200+ cases per day herself, sheā€™s not going to have much time for anything else. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-06-the-laws-of-gods-and-men-5-11-14-no-spoilers/688219/10 "2014-05-12T02:15:59Z")
The Tyrells sure seem to be doing pretty well for having a complete tool as their ruler. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-06-the-laws-of-gods-and-men-5-11-14-no-spoilers/688219/11 "2014-05-12T02:17:21Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > The Tyrells sure seem to be doing pretty well for having a complete tool as their ruler. Heā€™s the ruler in the same way that Tommen is head of the Lannisters. ---
**Author:** ![PetW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@PetW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PetW)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-06-the-laws-of-gods-and-men-5-11-14-no-spoilers/688219/12 "2014-05-12T02:18:38Z")
I get the crazy feeling that Jaime is going to offer to duel Tyrion. Would be even more epic if it was Tywin! ---
**Author:** ![PetW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@PetW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PetW)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-06-the-laws-of-gods-and-men-5-11-14-no-spoilers/688219/13 "2014-05-12T02:23:53Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > The question I had about that scene is, didnā€™t she ever hear of appointing judges? Iā€™m no expert, but if she has to hear 200+ cases per day herself, sheā€™s not going to have much time for anything else. Bran seemed to do the same thing when he was presiding over Westeros. Iā€™m guessing itā€™s not 200+ per day, but just a big backlog from when sheā€™s been gone, but who knows? ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-06-the-laws-of-gods-and-men-5-11-14-no-spoilers/688219/14 "2014-05-12T02:32:21Z")
> [@PetW](#): > > Bran seemed to do the same thing when he was presiding over Westeros. Iā€™m guessing itā€™s not 200+ per day, but just a big backlog from when sheā€™s been gone, but who knows? Gone? She only just started actual ruling (as opposed to conquering) this episode. That said, thereā€™s probably a big rush at the beginning. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-06-the-laws-of-gods-and-men-5-11-14-no-spoilers/688219/15 "2014-05-12T04:03:48Z")
> [@LawMonkey](#): > > Well, that was the performance of Peter Dinklageā€™s career. Holy crap. :eek: Yes. He deserves an Emmy, Golden Globe, or whatever awards are appropriate for HBO series. Outstanding work. Canā€™t say Iā€™m impressed with the legal system here. No right to counsel, no right to cross examine witnesses. Even acting pro se, I think Tyrion would have shredded most of the witnesses against him had he been allowed to cross examine. Found it interesting that he rejected the deal Jamie brokered for him. I think Tywin would have kept his end of the bargain, but now weā€™ll never know. Should we assume the Iron Bank is backing Stannis now? They said no, then Davos shows up with money to hire piratesā€¦ I was somewhat surprised the Greyjoy raid ended the way it did. Seems like they still had a fighting chance of killing whoever the sadistic bastard isā€¦Ramsay? I forgot his name. Also surprised Dani is apparently allowing her dragons to roam free. Theyā€™re dragons. Theyā€™re going to eat whatever looks tasty, and theyā€™re still vulnerable to attack/capture. Missed seeing Arya and the Hound this week. Also Byrnne & Pod. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_Prize](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d2c977/32.png) [@Sir\_Prize](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Prize)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-06-the-laws-of-gods-and-men-5-11-14-no-spoilers/688219/16 "2014-05-12T04:32:22Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Yes. He deserves an Emmy, Golden Globe, or whatever awards are appropriate for HBO series. Outstanding work. > > Canā€™t say Iā€™m impressed with the legal system here. No right to counsel, no right to cross examine witnesses. Even acting pro se, I think Tyrion would have shredded most of the witnesses against him had he been allowed to cross examine. > > Found it interesting that he rejected the deal Jamie brokered for him. I think Tywin would have kept his end of the bargain, but now weā€™ll never know. > > Should we assume the Iron Bank is backing Stannis now? They said no, then Davos shows up with money to hire piratesā€¦ Davosā€™ speech about Stannis convinced them. Most of the witnesses were telling the truth although without context. Also, we donā€™t know if the next stage of the trial was the defense because Tyrion upset Tywinā€™s plan. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_Prize](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d2c977/32.png) [@Sir\_Prize](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Prize)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-06-the-laws-of-gods-and-men-5-11-14-no-spoilers/688219/17 "2014-05-12T04:33:38Z")
If they hadnā€™t put Shae on the stand, Tyrion would have followed the plan. They Hand overplayed his hand. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-06-the-laws-of-gods-and-men-5-11-14-no-spoilers/688219/18 "2014-05-12T04:36:38Z")
Here we fucking go. Aside from a few exciting moments Season 4ā€™s been off to a slow start. Still good, but obviously spending a lot of time setting up the pieces. Now weā€™re full steam ahead. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-06-the-laws-of-gods-and-men-5-11-14-no-spoilers/688219/19 "2014-05-12T04:37:42Z")
> [@PetW](#): > > I get the crazy feeling that Jaime is going to offer to duel Tyrion. Would be even more epic if it was Tywin! I donā€™t think so. The Mountain is about to show up. My guess is the Mountain will be the prosecutionā€™s duel and Tyrionā€™s champion will be Bronn or, more likely(because it would really put Tywin I an awkward position) Jamie. ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-06-the-laws-of-gods-and-men-5-11-14-no-spoilers/688219/20 "2014-05-12T04:40:41Z")
Dude saves the city, and the kingdom. Everyone knows that Joffery is a monster and yet not one person stands for him at the trial, with the exception of Jaime. He would probably have gotten a better deal with Stannis. Other than that, I loved prince of Dornes cross examination , or clarification of Shae. Declan [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-06-the-laws-of-gods-and-men-5-11-14-no-spoilers/688219.md?page=2)