# Game of Thrones 4.10 "The Children" 6/15/14 \[no spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 15, 2014, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819 "2014-06-15T14:36:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2014, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/361 "2014-06-19T20:31:56Z")
Best episode in a while, but who poops in the middle of the night after banging a prostitute? Go take a piss, sure, but a dump? Completely implausible. ---
**Author:** ![mr.jp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@mr.jp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr.jp)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2014, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/362 "2014-06-19T20:43:49Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > Best episode in a while, but who poops in the middle of the night after banging a prostitute? Go take a piss, sure, but a dump? Completely implausible. This was so funny I almost crapped my pants. Luckily it’s the middle of the night where I am. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2014, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/363 "2014-06-19T20:47:12Z")
> [@mr.jp](#): > > This was so funny I almost crapped my pants. Luckily it’s the middle of the night where I am. Lock up your crossbow before you go to the bathroom ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2014, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/364 "2014-06-19T20:47:28Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > Best episode in a while, but who poops in the middle of the night after banging a prostitute? Go take a piss, sure, but a dump? Completely implausible. Sometimes old guys sit to take a leak. Maybe he was catching up on some light reading, or playing the Westeros equivalent of Angry Birds. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2014, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/365 "2014-06-19T21:20:54Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Sometimes old guys sit to take a leak. Maybe he was catching up on some light reading, or playing the Westeros equivalent of Angry Birds. Vengeful Ravens? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2014, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/366 "2014-06-19T21:23:26Z")
I just wanted to point out that I guess we’re getting the equivalent of Zombie Mountain next season, and Zombie Mountain sounds like a really shitty B movie. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2014, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/367 "2014-06-19T21:24:56Z")
Or a Disney ride ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2014, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/368 "2014-06-19T21:46:04Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Zombie Mountain sounds like a really shitty B movie. [It is.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAfWCoY8K0A) I’m curious what you meant by Zombie Mountain, or what it refers to. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2014, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/369 "2014-06-19T21:49:29Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > [It is.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAfWCoY8K0A) I’m curious what you meant by Zombie Mountain, or what it refers to. He’s assuming that whatever ex-Maester Qyburn is doing to the nearly-dead Gregor “The Mountain” Clegane will result in a not-wholly-human creature, which seems like a pretty fair guess. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2014, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/370 "2014-06-19T22:05:28Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > [It is.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAfWCoY8K0A) Figures. > [@](#): > > I’m curious what you meant by Zombie Mountain, or what it refers to. > [@MaxTheVool](#): > > He’s assuming that whatever ex-Maester Qyburn is doing to the nearly-dead Gregor “The Mountain” Clegane will result in a not-wholly-human creature, which seems like a pretty fair guess. Exactly. Nobody used the z-word, of course, but the Mountain was badly wounded and poisoned (dammit, Oberyn, you did everything right and then took your eye off the ball at the last second) to the point that Pycelle said there’s no way to save him. Qyburn was stripped of his maester chain because he did some… let’s say unethical experiments on the living, and he says he has a way to keep the Mountain from dying. And he said he’ll be changed somehow but still strong. That _really_ seemed like a good spot for Cersei to ask a follow-up question, but she didn’t. Anyway the whole thing has a lot of Frankenstein/zombie type overtones. Also it turns out Qyburn is probably carrying a grudge against the Mountain because he ordered him killed at Harrenhal. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2014, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/371 "2014-06-19T23:48:20Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Sometimes old guys sit to take a leak. Maybe he was catching up on some light reading, or playing the Westeros equivalent of Angry Birds. You didn’t hear the subtle _"kerplop, splash_" when he saw the crossbow? You must not have a good enough surround sound system… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/372 "2014-06-20T03:27:06Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > …Qyburn was stripped of his maester chain because he did some… let’s say unethical experiments on the living… Just call him Maester Mengele. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/373 "2014-06-20T03:32:48Z")
Only just saw the episode, and I’m going to post up my thoughts even though I am last to the party: I thought it stunk out the series. Oh yeah, it was packed with many events unlike the last episode of previous series. Surprising and significant events too. But unlike most of the rest of the series (plural), it wasn’t surprising in a good way, but because it didn’t really make sense with how characters had previously behaved, and the direction was poor. Right from the start where Jon just walks into Mance’s tent, I figured “ok, they must be trying to fit a lot of stuff into this ep, they’re just cutting to the chase”. And so it continued. Everything hurried, the deaths all done in a slapdash way, with very little dialogue, they felt more to me like alternate endings for the DVD. And, though I knew it was inevitable, everything getting more magical, and “chosen one”-ish in the the Bran storyline is dismaying: well into standard fantasy trope fare there (though I admit the skeletons were very well done). If season 5 was starting next week, I’d be all “meh” up in your face. I’d probably still watch the episodes eventually but I’ve lost the eager anticipation I had before season 4. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/374 "2014-06-20T03:38:43Z")
> [@pancakes3](#): > > Game of Thrones TBT pics (Throwback Thursdays) > > [17 'Game of Thrones' #TBT Photos Worthy of the Nostalgia Throne | Mashable](http://mashable.com/2014/06/12/game-of-thrones-tbt/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link) > > Olenna wasn’t kidding when she was boasting about her bygone sexual prime. If that picture of Jack Gleeson really is from 2005, he was 13 years old and looked 7. Now he’s 22 and looks 14. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/375 "2014-06-20T04:01:47Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Since she was told to do this, I suspect that it is known in Braavos that such coins can be used by those who are on errands for the faceless men as well as the faceless men themselves. I’ve only read this far, so apologies if my question has already been answered. Does anyone else see the coin as a ‘threat’? Show the coin to a Braavosi. Say, ‘All men die.’ It sounds a bit like, ‘Do me this favour, or you, like all men, will die sooner than you would otherwise.’ ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/376 "2014-06-20T04:04:17Z")
I see the reaction that Arya from the captain gets as more of a sign of respect and duty than one of fear, coercion, or expectation of benefit. And, no, I saw no suggestion that he complied under a threat that he might be killed had he not. (His response is “all men must serve .”) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/377 "2014-06-20T04:37:10Z")
I think the coin is like a Masonic ring and a papal seal that says “Give the bearer every courtesy and you will be rewarded in Earth and in the life to come”. What I don’t understand is what makes it so impossible to counterfeit when it’s just an iron coin and the words “valor morghulis” are apparently fairly well knows, yet it doesn’t even occur to the captain, who is neither said or implied to be anything more mystical or high born or powerful than any other merchant ship captain, that this young girl who is clearly not from Braavos or even Essos came by it other than legitimately. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/378 "2014-06-20T04:41:22Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I think the coin is like a Masonic ring and a papal seal that says “Give the bearer every courtesy and you will be rewarded in Earth and in the life to come”. What I don’t understand is what makes it so impossible to counterfeit when it’s just an iron coin and the words “valor morghulis” are apparently fairly well knows, yet it doesn’t even occur to the captain, who is neither said or implied to be anything more mystical or high born or powerful than any other merchant ship captain, that this young girl who is clearly not from Braavos or even Essos came by it other than legitimately. It’s possible that the magical assassin people wouldn’t take kindly to that. ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/379 "2014-06-20T09:12:48Z")
Yeah, you do **not** want to be upsetting the Faceless Men. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/380 "2014-06-20T13:10:23Z")
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