# Game of Thrones 4.10 "The Children" 6/15/14 \[no spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 15, 2014, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819 "2014-06-15T14:36:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/21 "2014-06-16T02:36:33Z")
What did Arya give the captain? What was the significance? ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/22 "2014-06-16T02:36:54Z")
Sooo…is Stannis’ new army just awesome, or do the wildlings suck? That was a massacre. I did not expect it to be Brienne who kicked Hound’s ass. Brutal fight, but staged well. Meh on the “killed on the crapper” ending for Tywin. Was hoping for something cooler. So what now? Tommen is king, but he needs a new Hand. Jamie? Loras? Littlefinger? Arrya is off to become a first level assassin. Normally that requires an evil alignment…hmmmm… ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/23 "2014-06-16T02:38:42Z")
> [@CoolHandCox](#): > > What did Arya give the captain? What was the significance? The iron coin J’aquen gave her. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBV0uOLx8jM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBV0uOLx8jM) ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/24 "2014-06-16T02:39:28Z")
It was the iron coin she was given by Jaqen Hgkar the faceless man whom she helped escape from the cage and who murdered three people for her. He told her that if she wanted to go to Bravos that she should give the iron coin to any Braavosi captain and say “Valar Morghulis” – everyone must die. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/25 "2014-06-16T02:40:56Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Very cool episode. Loved the Brienne-Hound fight, as good a duel as the Beric-Hound or Oberyn-Mountain fights. Loved the Tyrion scenes, and his reunions. Loved to see Stannis rescuing the Night’s Watch. > > What was everyone’s favorite parts? Who’s going to rule now with Tywin gone? Can Cersei keep the kingdom together? Where is Tyrion headed? What’s Arya going to do in Braavos? Is the Hound really going to die? What’s going to happen at the Wall now that Stannis is there? I don’t see how the Hound could possibly survive. He himself said barring there being a Maester behind the rock he was dead. I’m wondering about the hint that the Mountain will survive but he’ll be “different”. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/26 "2014-06-16T02:41:45Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Sooo…is Stannis’ new army just awesome, or do the wildlings suck? That was a massacre. Stannis brought fresh, trained, experienced, and equipped mercenaries. The wildlings are just raiders who have brought their entire communities with them, not professional soldiers. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/27 "2014-06-16T02:42:37Z")
Thanks ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/28 "2014-06-16T02:43:26Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Sooo…is Stannis’ new army just awesome, or do the wildlings suck? That was a massacre. Besides the giants (and I assume they were off taking shits in the woods or something), I don’t think it was much of an army, but rather a horde of 100,000 men (many of whom were armed), women, and children. A few thousand trained cavalry would make mincemeat of even a huge unorganized rabble. > [@](#): > > I did not expect it to be Brienne who kicked Hound’s ass. Brutal fight, but staged well. Agreed. Very cool fight. If the Hound wasn’t already wounded, I think he probably would have won. > [@](#): > > Meh on the “killed on the crapper” ending for Tywin. Was hoping for something cooler. I thought it was rather pleasantly anti-climactic. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/29 "2014-06-16T02:49:57Z")
> [@thinksnow](#): > > FYI: > **DO NOT watch the ‘Previously On GoT’ Recap on tonight’s finale** > > Don’t watch the recap for tonight’s episode as it ruins a lot of surprises going into to tonight, and it happens to spoil a lot of the main events. What did the “previously on” give away? I didn’t feel like it spoiled anything for me. Unlike CalMeacham’s douchebaggery. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/30 "2014-06-16T02:52:02Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > What did the “previously on” give away? I didn’t feel like it spoiled anything for me. > > Unlike CalMeacham’s douchebaggery. It basically gave away that Stannis was going to show up and save the day. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/31 "2014-06-16T02:57:25Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > It basically gave away that Stannis was going to show up and save the day. It also gave away the Jaquen Haddar reference that would come up. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/32 "2014-06-16T03:00:38Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > I don’t see how the Hound could possibly survive. > > He himself said barring there being a Maester behind the rock he was dead. Except I’m always suspicious when someone is “left for dead” instead of actually being killed. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/33 "2014-06-16T03:12:33Z")
Ya know, if the Hound hadn’t started listing all the tucked up things he did trying to get Aryan to kill him, she might have done it out of mercy. I laughed when he tried to snatched the money bag back. Old habits. ---
**Author:** ![minionkat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@minionkat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minionkat)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/34 "2014-06-16T03:14:31Z")
My favourite part was right after Varys put Tyrion on the boat. He turned back to King’s Landing, heard the bells, and his face said, “fuck that shit” and he spun on his heel to get on the boat. You know it’s going to be bad when a guy as savvy as Varys is thinking, “hell no!” I hope he used a new box for Tyrion. The one the wizard arrived in must have been rank. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/35 "2014-06-16T03:15:20Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Ya know, if the Hound hadn’t started listing all the tucked up things he did trying to get Aryan to kill him, she might have done it out of mercy. I laughed when he tried to snatched the money bag back. Old habits. I thought the same thing. She always seemed to waver between thinking he was a good guy who sometimes did bad things and a bad guy who sometimes did good things and I think he convinced her of the latter. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/36 "2014-06-16T03:16:38Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Stannis brought fresh, trained, experienced, and equipped mercenaries. The wildlings are just raiders who have brought their entire communities with them, not professional soldiers. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Besides the giants (and I assume they were off taking shits in the woods or something), I don’t think it was much of an army, but rather a horde of 100,000 men (many of whom were armed), women, and children. A few thousand trained cavalry would make mincemeat of even a huge unorganized rabble. True enough, but surely Mance Rayder would have posted sentries, sent scouting parties to watch his flanks, etc. At least he shouldn’t have been taken completely by surprise like that. And where are the white walkers? Lots of tasty meat/potential recruits running around. Shifting gears—forgot to mention the skeleton fight earlier. Really liked it. The skeletons looked good and moved better than I expected. Also liked the tiny magic user’s fire spells. Might have to log on to my WoW Mage and re-spec fire in tribute… ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/37 "2014-06-16T03:18:13Z")
Once again, I think the interesting thing will be to see if the Mountain is still alive and if the other Maester heals him, presumably through something like black magic, how it will make him “different”. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/38 "2014-06-16T03:18:46Z")
I thought she was throwing something, not outright magic. ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/39 "2014-06-16T03:21:49Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > I’m wondering about the hint that the Mountain will survive but he’ll be “different”. In a shocking turn of events from every other season of GoT so far… …he’ll have a new actor. > [@DigitalC](#): > > It basically gave away that Stannis was going to show up and save the day. Eh. It helped me make the connection, when the obviously well-trained, disciplined troops showed up, that they were Stannis’s. But I didn’t see the bit in the “previously on” about Stannis and immediately think, “Oooh, he’s going to swoop down and stir up shit!” (Which, incidentally, is more what he did than “save the day”.) I was a bit meh on this episode. It was fine as an episode, but as a season-ender (with the previous episode), it was a bit of a let down. Felt more mid-season than end, despite the significant deaths. I’ve been conditioned for the penultimate episode to be the gutpunch/“holy shit” episode, with the final tying up strings and setting us up for the next season. This time, the penultimate was, “Oh, there was a fight w/ a bunch of people I don’t much care about or really even know,” and the final felt more like a mid-season place-setting episode. YMMV, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819/40 "2014-06-16T03:34:29Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Shifting gears—forgot to mention the skeleton fight earlier. Really liked it. The skeletons looked good and moved better than I expected. Very Ray Harryhausenesqe > [@Oakminster](#): > > Also liked the tiny magic user’s fire spells. Might have to log on to my WoW Mage and re-spec fire in tribute… There are some who call her…Tim? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-4-10-the-children-6-15-14-no-spoilers/690819.md?page=3)