# Game of Thrones 5.10 "Mother's Mercy" 6/14/15 \[Show Discussion\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 14, 2015, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-5-10-mothers-mercy-6-14-15-show-discussion/722526 "2015-06-14T19:32:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-5-10-mothers-mercy-6-14-15-show-discussion/722526/41 "2015-06-15T02:54:02Z")
Well, for one thing, I can’t see any way that the mystery of Jon Snow’s parentage is ever going to be solved now, or even that it really matters any more. Which is strange given how it seemed to be the gun in the first act. ---
**Author:** ![F.Pu-du-he-pa-as](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c89c15/32.png) [@F.Pu-du-he-pa-as](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.Pu-du-he-pa-as)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-5-10-mothers-mercy-6-14-15-show-discussion/722526/42 "2015-06-15T02:55:51Z")
It also occurs to me that House Baratheon has effectively been wiped off the face of the earth, right? Robert is dead, Stannis is dead, and Renly is dead. Were there any other Baratheons? Who’s in charge of Dragonstone and the Baratheon kingdom now? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-5-10-mothers-mercy-6-14-15-show-discussion/722526/43 "2015-06-15T02:56:14Z")
As soon as Cersei entered the castle, I thought she might say, “Kill them all.” But perhaps not; I don’t think she was entirely faking her contrition (although she didn’t fess up to the incest). I think the sparrows broke her. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-5-10-mothers-mercy-6-14-15-show-discussion/722526/44 "2015-06-15T02:56:37Z")
> [@F.Pu-du-he-pa-as](#): > > What happened to Melisandre? It looked like she didn’t just abandon the losing side; it looked like she had a major crisis of faith-- she did everything the Lord of Light told her to, and not only did Stannis’s followers abandon them in droves, the visions she saw in the flames were not what came to pass. The Lord of Light lied to her? Or, the Lord of Light showed her what she needed to know so that she would accomplish what needed to be accomplished, but Melisandre had come to see herself a leader and an emissary of the Lord of Light, and not as just one more cog in the Lord of Light’s grand plan, to be used and then discarded? Or she misinterpreted the Lord of Light. Maybe Stannis isn’t really king, so Shereen’s blood didn’t really have any magic? ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-5-10-mothers-mercy-6-14-15-show-discussion/722526/45 "2015-06-15T03:02:55Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > As soon as Cersei entered the castle, I thought she might say, “Kill them all.” But perhaps not; I don’t think she was entirely faking her contrition (although she didn’t fess up to the incest). I think the sparrows broke her. Oh, I don’t think she’s broken at all. I think she will unleash her inner Joffrey. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-5-10-mothers-mercy-6-14-15-show-discussion/722526/46 "2015-06-15T03:04:24Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Or she misinterpreted the Lord of Light. Maybe Stannis isn’t really king, so Shereen’s blood didn’t really have any magic? Well the snow stopped damn near immediately. That was such a perfect devil’s bargain, Stannis got what he wanted but got fucked anyways. ---
**Author:** ![Tixenfleaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9a140/32.png) [@Tixenfleaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tixenfleaz)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-5-10-mothers-mercy-6-14-15-show-discussion/722526/47 "2015-06-15T03:04:36Z")
> [@F.Pu-du-he-pa-as](#): > > It also occurs to me that House Baratheon has effectively been wiped off the face of the earth, right? Robert is dead, Stannis is dead, and Renly is dead. Were there any other Baratheons? Who’s in charge of Dragonstone and the Baratheon kingdom now? I rather doubt that Stannis is dead. Outside of Shireen, this series seems to make it a point of showing the demise of major characters in gory detail. For this reason, I’m betting that the Hound is alive as well. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-5-10-mothers-mercy-6-14-15-show-discussion/722526/48 "2015-06-15T03:06:23Z")
why would Brienne not finish off Stannis? Even if she left him alone he was in real bad shape anyway and likely would have died soon. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-5-10-mothers-mercy-6-14-15-show-discussion/722526/49 "2015-06-15T03:09:39Z")
> [@Tixenfleaz](#): > > I rather doubt that Stannis is dead. Outside of Shireen, this series seems to make it a point of showing the demise of major characters in gory detail. For this reason, I’m betting that the Hound is alive as well. They did not show Ned’s beheading. I believe they cut to Arya. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-5-10-mothers-mercy-6-14-15-show-discussion/722526/50 "2015-06-15T03:09:55Z")
Not all vows come to pass on the show, but I think- and even sort of hope- that Cersei will definitely revisit the septa. Arya really should have read the new employee handbook’s policy on moonlighting. Is Drogon seriously injured or just tired or just stubborn? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-5-10-mothers-mercy-6-14-15-show-discussion/722526/51 "2015-06-15T03:10:59Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > why would Brienne not finish off Stannis? Even if she left him alone he was in real bad shape anyway and likely would have died soon. I dunno, maybe she needs him to help get Sansa out. Do your duty he said, her duty was not revenge it was protecting the Stark kids. There is no reason to cut away from the death blow otherwise, when has that happened before? Any deaths that are not explicitly shown are at least heard, like Shireen or Syrio. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-5-10-mothers-mercy-6-14-15-show-discussion/722526/52 "2015-06-15T03:13:49Z")
as noted above they did not show Ned Stark’s death ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-5-10-mothers-mercy-6-14-15-show-discussion/722526/53 "2015-06-15T03:15:08Z")
They showed the sword dripping blood and gore and thousands of people watched him die and they showed his decapitated head. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-5-10-mothers-mercy-6-14-15-show-discussion/722526/54 "2015-06-15T03:16:08Z")
> [@ellis dee](#): > > man, they don’t make plot armor like they used to. > > Early in the episode i was thinking how they went for the “unwatchably despicable” trifecta this season with raping sansa, burning shireen and now caning a couple random little girls, but damn if they horrific scene didn’t have me busting out laughing twice. First was after he hit arya a second time and the two other girls turned to look at her; comedy gold right there. Second was when he dismissed them, the way they bolted was funny as hell. > > Is arya now permanently blind, i wonder? > > They tried for some more comedy with dany and her dragon, but that fell kind of flat for me. Seemed too forced. > > The biggest laugh had to be cersei’s humiliation. When he said she’d return the way she was born, i was thinking “no way…” and then bam, a massive humiliation fountain just shit all over her. Not funny, i guess, but holy shit i laughed hard at that. Not even in a spiteful “yeah you deserve it, cersei!” way; more in a total shock and disbelief kind of way. > > So jon is dead, sam and gilly are gone, stannis and his entire army are dead; are we done with the wall, then? Not many characters to carry scenes there anymore. I suppose a season opening scene of the night’s watch mercilessly slaughtering every last wildling south of the wall, but other than that not much left to do up there. tl; dnr; ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-5-10-mothers-mercy-6-14-15-show-discussion/722526/55 "2015-06-15T03:17:32Z")
Big props to Lena Headey for baring it all for “The Passion of the Cersei.” As much as I hate the character, that was tough to watch. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-5-10-mothers-mercy-6-14-15-show-discussion/722526/56 "2015-06-15T03:17:41Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > why would Brienne not finish off Stannis? Even if she left him alone he was in real bad shape anyway and likely would have died soon. No way would Brienne have left him alive; this was the first time she was able to fulfill a promise she had made. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn1767](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shawn1767](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shawn1767)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-5-10-mothers-mercy-6-14-15-show-discussion/722526/57 "2015-06-15T03:17:43Z")
Why did the Red Woman want to have sex with Jon Snow (yeah, yeah, who WOULDN’T?) But maybe SHE knows his lineage? Doesn’t she need royal blood? Was Ned Stark sufficiently royal? Could the theories about Jon and being a Targaryen be true? ---
**Author:** ![Tixenfleaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9a140/32.png) [@Tixenfleaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tixenfleaz)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-5-10-mothers-mercy-6-14-15-show-discussion/722526/58 "2015-06-15T03:19:57Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > why would Brienne not finish off Stannis? Even if she left him alone he was in real bad shape anyway and likely would have died soon. I absolutely could be wrong. Sparing him wouldn’t make much sense given his confession. And **Biggirl** is right. I could’ve sworn that Ned’s head rolled. Ah well. I’ll shut up now.:smack: ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-5-10-mothers-mercy-6-14-15-show-discussion/722526/59 "2015-06-15T03:20:35Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > Big props to Lena Headey for baring it all for “The Passion of the Cersei.” As much as I hate the character, that was tough to watch. Err… was i the only one to notice the very obvious CGI? the blurry neck and head size not always matching body proportions? the at least ten year difference between the face and body? there was nothing of Lena Headley in that scene besides her head. I do wish i could find out who the body double was for the back shots though. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-5-10-mothers-mercy-6-14-15-show-discussion/722526/60 "2015-06-15T03:22:27Z")
> [@F.Pu-du-he-pa-as](#): > > It also occurs to me that House Baratheon has effectively been wiped off the face of the earth, right? Robert is dead, Stannis is dead, and Renly is dead. Were there any other Baratheons? Who’s in charge of Dragonstone and the Baratheon kingdom now? Tommen? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-5-10-mothers-mercy-6-14-15-show-discussion/722526.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-5-10-mothers-mercy-6-14-15-show-discussion/722526.md?page=4)