# Game of Thrones 6.02 "Home" 5/1/16 \[Show discussion\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 1, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643 "2016-05-01T22:37:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/281 "2016-05-04T14:15:44Z")
> [@](#): > > I think the Unsullied are Full Monty penis-free eunuchs. They mentioned that all the Unsullied could do with a woman was basically cuddle, and many testicular eunuchs can achieve enough erection to have sex. > > Varys’s penis was cut off as part of some dark ritual and Theon was torture, but the Unsullied wouldn’t make a lot of sense from the plot standpoint as the risk of them dying would be severe. OTOH, many Chinese court eunuchs were penis-free, so I suppose more survive than don’t. I think Dany and her female advisor (Missandre ?) discussed the anatomy of the Unsullied, but I don’t remember the outcome. Didn’t Varys have the guy who castrated him as a prisoner back in the Red Keep? What ever happened to him? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/282 "2016-05-04T14:25:48Z")
> [@zimaane](#): > > Or maybe his plan is to somehow go back and kill Ramsay. That is not a smart plan, but it’s clear that Theon is not the sharpest sword in the armory. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that we saw Theon’s sister in the previously on segment, so my guess is that Theon either goes home or runs across his sister in some other place. I really don’t think he’s voluntarily going back to Ramsay. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tof](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@The\_Tof](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tof)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/283 "2016-05-04T15:05:33Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Other than the sizzling sound of his hand burning and him screaming out in pain, you mean? > > Pretty sure later in that episode we see him tending to his burned hand. I am at work and watching without sound… so I didn’t get any audio clues. My desire was unlikely anyway… but I think it would have been awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/284 "2016-05-04T15:13:34Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > I think we were meant to be confused over who stabbed who because at that point either of them could have done it. Ramsey had ceased to be helpful to Roose’s cause. Ramsey knew his days were counted. I, too, wondered who stabbed whom. Roose and his son are both awful enough that it was equally plausible at that moment for either to be wielding the knife. > [@SenorBeef](#): > > I think it might’ve been cooler if Ramsay had stabbed Roose, but it didn’t penetrate Roose’s chainmail, which he wore because he was savvy enough to anticipate the attempt. Then there’s a struggle, and Roose actually gets the better of Ramsay… at which point the new Lord Karstark kills Roose to seal their The Dicks In The North alliance. It would’ve been more dramatic, made Roose seem more competant, added a sad note that the father, even after legitimizing his son, was always that wary of them, and then made a much more dramatic reveal of the Ramsay/Karstark alliance. Would’ve only taken an extra 40 seconds of screen time but would’ve given the scene much more impact I think. It was pretty perfunctory as it was. I like the cut of your jib, **Senor**. > [@DigitalC](#): > > If the entire point of Bran’s arc is to show us cool scenes from the past then that will be absolutely fine with me. It probably won’t be though. Agreed on both counts. I hope we see a lot more flashbacks - was that young Ned Stark taking on some Targaryen men-at-arms in next week’s preview? > [@Sampiro](#): > > Theon is one of the few characters who has deserved every bad turn he’s gotten. But, I’d be willing to let him go with time and body parts served at this point. Agreed. He’s (mostly) paid his dues. > [@Jack\_Burden](#): > > Winner of Tyrion one-liner of the night: > “That’s what I do; I drink, and I know things.” That was a keeper, all right. > [@Colibri](#): > > The fight against the White Walkers will require help from many sources: Jon’s Valyrian steel, the knowledge Sam gains about dragonglass at the Citadel, and the supernatural powers that Bran is gaining from the Three-eyed Raven and the Children. These strands will no doubt come together at some point, along with a hefty dose of dragon-fire.😉 Yeah, I think it’s gonna be kind of like a Westerosi “Avengers assemble!” > [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > Well, every story is _someone’s_ story, and this, to a large extent, is Jon Snow’s. Killing him off now simply wouldn’t have made any narrative sense, and be just in fulfillment of the fan’s expectations that ‘anyone can die’. Killing people and piercing the occasional plot armor is fine fun, but only if it ultimately occurs in service to telling a good story; killing people just because and to show that noone’s save doesn’t really accomplish anything. In this case, there would just have been hours upon hours of plot and character development rendered utterly pointless, a retroactive waste of time, and for virtually no payoff… Disagreed. Not every plot has to lead somewhere. No one is safe, no one is necessarily going to play a key role in the Song of Ice and Fire, and narrative blind alleys are effective in keeping us on our toes. Many medieval leaders had great promise but died unexpectedly after all. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/285 "2016-05-04T15:15:37Z")
> [@Critical1](#): > > A girl was told by a man that she could kill those on her list in the service of the red god back when she was Arya and he was Jaquen. I don’t believe this is true. He told her that he would kill three people for her because she saved 3 people from the fire and the Red God was owed those deaths. That’s not the same as her getting training and then killing everyone she swore vengeance against. ---
**Author:** ![troub](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troub/32/14802_2.png) [@troub](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/troub)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/286 "2016-05-04T15:40:17Z")
Alright, so I can never remember (or keep track of the rules between different types of threads) – are we supposed to spoiler stuff from the next ep previews? Anyway, re: “the gift” (spoilered in case), in the next ep preview: [spoiler]there is a quick cut of some horses running/charging with banners displayed, directly followed by a large bearded dude telling Ramsey they’ve brought him a gift. I freeze-framed the horses, and the banners are red with crossed chains and shackles, which the show wiki identifies as the Umber sigil. Large bearded dude also fits the description. [/spoiler] Rickon was headed to the Umbers, and this episode we heard Ramsey say the Karstarks, Umbers, and Manderlys were on their side…if the Umbers were to go to Winterfell with Rickon, _I_ suspect it would end badly for Ramsay. The Karstarks might be pissed about their lord, but what indication do we have that the Umbers or Manderlys are doing anything other than rolling over because of the Bolton/Sansa marriage and as far as they know all the other Starks are gone. _BUT_, the North remembers, and the Umbers were shown (during the “King in the North” discussion) to be fiercely loyal to the Starks, as well as fearsome warriors (described by Osha, IIRC). If a surviving male Stark (with attendant Direwolf) were to show up on their doorstep, I suspect their allegiance to any Bolton wardenship of the North would seriously be in trouble. That said, I think they would probably know better than to try to call the banners and lay to siege Winterfell, when they could play the game a little bit and take control of things from inside. And as someone mentioned earlier in the thread, even the Karstarks may be playing a game against the Boltons, seeming to support Ramsay in taking out Roose simply because Ramsay has more significant weaknesses that can be exploited. He’s brutal, but he doesn’t think nearly far enough ahead, or about how immediate gratification/success can actually make things more difficult down the line. The Karstarks might have an easy “in” in that they can point to the execution of Lord Karstark as a turning point, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they actually feel that he screwed up and it was the King’s duty to act. I don’t know if it means anything, but even when complaining about that execution as why he’s supporting the Boltons, the current Karstark lord called him “King Robb.” Not that he would necessarily call him anything else, but considering he _wasn’t_ really king except by the say-so of his supporters…I thought it was interesting to hear Karstark still call him that (with “Usurper,” “Mad King,” “Kingslayer,” and so on, usually non-supporters aren’t shy about unflattering nicknames for prominent people they don’t like). I watched the scene again to see if Roose seemed to take notice…if so he didn’t let on, but he did appear to be considering the statement pretty intently until they got interrupted, IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/287 "2016-05-04T15:59:08Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > Max Von Sydow is 87. I wonder how many other shows now have an actor that old… I like him in the role, although ISTR that his predecessor as the Three-Eyed Raven was somehow… more _intertwined_ with the tree roots. (Max just looked like he’s standing behind a high wall). Can’t find a good picture online. > [@Rigamarole](#): > > I was thinking about this exact issue last night, but I disagree with your conclusion. These characters live in a different and more brutal world than we. Even the ‘good guys’ do things that are pretty awful by our standards (Daenerys having all the Mereenite slavers crucified was vengeful and extreme, for example). We need a bit of that Ramsay/Joffreyesque psycopathy to make the rest seem more moral and relatable, because they would be less so otherwise… Excellent point. > [@Acsenray](#): > > …It’s my personal view that Martin has no interest in literally paralleling real religions. > > …The religions really are fictional, but they illustrate some of the dynamics that real religions introduce into society and they play certain societal roles similar to how real religions have affected real history. > > …I am not really sure how to classify the Faith of the Drowned God… Agreed on all that. The Drowned God certainly appears very Cthulhuesque (and GRRM is a known Lovecraft fan). > [@Sampiro](#): > > I wonder if the Freys will want an investigation. They’ll probably at least want their dowry (Walda’s weight in silver) back. Yeah, that could be a very interesting plotline, although I suspect Ramsay’s going to have bigger headaches. > [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > With the death of Roose, Tywin, and to some extent Stannis, there’s a dearth of rational, yet calculating antagonists on this show. Hopefully someone new steps up, because those characters were a lot more fun to watch. Hadn’t thought of that, but you’re right. Littlefinger fits that mold too (and where the hell is he, anyway…?). ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/288 "2016-05-04T16:24:24Z")
Are the people loyal to the Boltons going to stand behind Ramsay? I doubt it. I think they know he’s nuts, plus he’s not an effective leader. ---
**Author:** ![Meme\_Chose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2acd7d/32.png) [@Meme\_Chose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meme_Chose)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/289 "2016-05-04T16:53:14Z")
> [@troub](#): > > Anyway, re: “the gift” Ooh, i hope it’s a horse! A very large wooden horse. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/290 "2016-05-04T16:57:40Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Are the people loyal to the Boltons going to stand behind Ramsay? I doubt it. I think they know he’s nuts, plus he’s not an effective leader. As far as we know the only ones loyal to the Boltons are the Karstarks and they seem to be fine with it. ---
**Author:** ![Critical1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Critical1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical1)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/291 "2016-05-04T17:38:15Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > He was never Jaquen, that was a necessary lie. A man could also have lied to Arya, to convince her to become a girl. A man seems to be quite clear now that only killing as ordered by the red god is allowed, personal vendetta’s are not. I agree that he was not telling the entire truth, I suspect that becoming “Nameless” is a part of the training and may not quite take with Arya. Her story is to elaborate for her to become a nameless drone who cant go out and murderate her enemies. > [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > I don’t believe this is true. He told her that he would kill three people for her because she saved 3 people from the fire and the Red God was owed those deaths. That’s not the same as her getting training and then killing everyone she swore vengeance against. [Arya and Jaqen have a chat about not yet dead people.](https://youtu.be/kBV0uOLx8jM?t=1m10s) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/292 "2016-05-04T17:39:47Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > There’s the whole army of Unsullied; plus Vaerys and Theon. And what’s unusual is that the last two have had penilectomies, which is just gratuitous mutilation, not necessary for creating eunuchs. Methinks GRRM has Issues. > [@zimaane](#): > > They could their own spinoff show: the Ex Men I laughed. > [@Shakester](#): > > …I know I said it earlier, but long-term I’m pretty sure Ramsay is dogfood. Either by his own hounds or at the jaws of one of the surviving Stark direwolves. Perhaps Rickon’s direwolf, Shaggydog. Ecch. That name always makes me think of Scooby Doo. > [@treis](#): > > Beyond this, no monarchy could survive having the King’s mother and wife kidnapped in the capital city. Add that to Tywin, Joeffry, and Myrcella’s death and there is no way the Lannister’s should remain in power. Every one of their vassal kingdoms should be revolting and some baron should be leading an internal revolt. Ordinarily I’d agree with you, but the Seven Kingdoms have just been through a very big, bloody, devastating civil war, and there might be no one left who’s capable of mounting a rebellion. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > This would be really awesome (if done right). But I’m pretty sure that Joseph Mawle (who played Benjen) hasn’t been spotted near the sets and locations during filming… As noted above, it’s been so long since we saw him (and then, so briefly), the role could easily be recast. > [@Colibri](#): > > …Actually, per notes in Wiki and IMDb, the older boy overseeing Ned and Benjen’s training is not Brandon but a young Rodrik Cassel, later Winterfell Master-at-Arms, who already has his characteristic sideburns… I noticed the sideburns right away. That was a nice touch. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/293 "2016-05-04T18:11:19Z")
Did they change the composer for the music in season 6? Some of the new musical pieces (not established themes) are unlike anything the show has done before. The chase music as Sansa and Theon ran away during the first episode was stylistically unlike anything else in the series, and there were segments of this episode that were quite different too. Anyone else notice that? A quick search seems to indicate that it’s still the same guy, Ramin Djawadi. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/294 "2016-05-04T18:14:23Z")
Oh, and I forgot, Wun-Wun totally one-upped Zombie Mountain in terms of big guy splattering dudes against wall-ship. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Disagreed. Not every plot has to lead somewhere. No one is safe, no one is necessarily going to play a key role in the Song of Ice and Fire, and narrative blind alleys are effective in keeping us on our toes. Many medieval leaders had great promise but died unexpectedly after all. Sure, but theirs are not the stories we tell—not if their death doesn’t at least illustrate some point of tragedy, that is. The stories we tell are those that come to some sort of conclusion. That’s why we tell them: because life doesn’t offer conclusions, in general. And that’s what fictional stories are patterned after. And after all, Jon Snow _did_ come back to life. ---
**Author:** ![Ionizer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5daacb/32.png) [@Ionizer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ionizer)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/295 "2016-05-04T18:16:06Z")
> [@Polerius](#): > > From a real-life medical point of view, if you are stabbed in the stomach like Roose was, do you immediately die, like he did? > > Is it possible that if someone is stabbed like that, they still have a few seconds to stab you back? I would assume so, but so many close-up stabbing scenes show the stabbee as just standing there and then falling down dead. It is not unfeasible for sich. If the aorta and/or inferior vena cava are ‘opened’, the person can quickly lose blood pressure/consciousness with actaul death pretty quick afterwards. There are other smaller, but sizable-enough vessels that ~similar results can be seen. Sometimes, if the hole(s) are small enough in the vessels, the bleeding can kind of get blocked/contained with pressure (tamponaded?) and slow the loss of consciousness somewhat. But rarely will a person be conscious enough to remain standing whne they lose that pressure in vessels the heart needs, so to speak. I’ve been told that those trained to kill by knifing are going to try and move the blade around inside the torso somewhat to rip-up vital arteries/veins up to ensure quickest loss of pressure/consciousness and eventual actual death of stabee. I have had an elderly person die right in front of me in a Minor Emergency Center from a 3.5cm aortic rupture. The ol’ fellow just dropped without any symptom other than a mild bellyache - and he gave no indication of distress at all. He had a weak heartbeat for maybe a minute afterwards during CPR, IIRC, but he was gone no matter. The autopsy report the family shared with us at Clinic let us know what had happened asa we were all pretty freaked on it. A knife wound could easily do exactly the same if the internal bleeeding is voluminous enough. ---
**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/296 "2016-05-04T18:38:52Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Well here’s the thing, if a girl is really going to complete her training and become nobody then a girl will not have any desire to kill those people anymore. Arya had a kill list, a girl only kills as directed to by the many faced god, not for personal reasons. This is what I don’t get about Arya trying to join the faceless men… isn’t the whole point that she wants the power to kill her enemies? But to get that power, she has to give up on killing her enemies. Or is she just playing Jaquen still by claiming to be “no one”? And as soon as she passes all their tests, she plans to go finish off her hit list? ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/297 "2016-05-04T18:58:18Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I don’t think it’s a coincidence that we saw Theon’s sister in the previously on segment, so my guess is that Theon either goes home or runs across his sister in some other place. I really don’t think he’s voluntarily going back to Ramsay. His sister featured prominently in the episode proper, so it’s only natural that she was part of the previously on recap. > [@The\_Tof](#): > > I am at work and watching without sound… so I didn’t get any audio clues. Oh, gotcha. Yeah, that scene plays way different without sound. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/298 "2016-05-04T19:00:12Z")
When Jaqen originally tried to recruit her, he told her that she could go after everyone she wanted. But now apparently she has to give up that and her identity. One of them is a lie, or it’s inconsistent. Becoming no one may be a necessary part of her training, and after she passes that test, she’s able to keep her identity in some way, and fulfill her wishes. Or maybe he lied to her in the first place because he gets a recruitment bonus. The whole storyline seems pretty inconsistent. We’re lead to believe that they take the faces from people who die from their fountain, but when Jaqen kills himself with poison, she pulls off a series of faces, and one of them is her own. So clearly that’s not how the face thing works. And then the girl trainer becomes Jaqen without taking his face off the other guy, which suggests that the faces aren’t unique, discrete items either. I think the story is using the mystical nature to just try to obscure having an internally consistent way of treating that storyline. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/299 "2016-05-04T19:12:37Z")
Didn’t Roose once tell Ramsay that when he learned he had a bastard son he originally planned to kill him? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/300 "2016-05-04T19:15:36Z")
No, it was much more of a Hallmark moment than that. A woman he raped under her husband’s swinging corpse came back 9 months later with a baby she claimed was his. He almost killed them both for bothering him, but then he looked at the baby and realized it was his. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643.md?page=16)