# Game of Thrones 6.02 "Home" 5/1/16 \[Show discussion\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 1, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643 "2016-05-01T22:37:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/41 "2016-05-02T04:53:55Z")
The only thing that could have been added to this episode, would have been Tommen turning loose the Kings Guard, on a search and recovery, followed by some public service killings. The look of relief on those gold cloaks as they did not have to fight the mountain. Jaime seems to be back to form, but i kinda liked that old dude, knew he was dead if Jaime pressed, but he stood his ground anyways. Gonna be sad when he gets run through. Declan ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/42 "2016-05-02T07:31:41Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I liked, “If I ever have an idea like that again, punch me in the face.” > > And also, “Please don’t eat the help.” I preferred, “You make dwarf jokes, I make eunuch jokes.” “I don’t make dwarf jokes.” “But you _think_ them!” ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/43 "2016-05-02T08:16:52Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > The Internet will break. How? This is exactly how everyone expected it to go. The only surprise was that there was no surprise. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/44 "2016-05-02T08:20:46Z")
Does anyone else find the Sparrows to be annoying and really quite unbelievable? I just don’t get why the Lannisters don’t have the high sparrow assassinated in a way they can plausibly deny and put someone pliable in his place. Certainly Cersei wouldn’t hesitate to do such a thing, she certainly has the motivation. The fact that Margaery and Loras might end up killed in the fallout would seem to be be a bonus as far as she is concerned. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/45 "2016-05-02T09:53:50Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > How? This is exactly how everyone expected it to go. The only surprise was that there was no surprise. [People are still going nuts about it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=getZwqGqKv8). ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/46 "2016-05-02T09:54:45Z")
For me, the highlight of the episode was Roose Bolton getting betrayed and murdered in exactly the way he did for Robb Stark. I couldn’t help saying out loud “The Starks send their regards!” Ramsay will get what’s coming to him, and I fully expect to see him getting fed to the hounds he likes feeding so much. But yeah, nice work Ramsay, just this once. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/47 "2016-05-02T10:47:43Z")
So how long before Cersei turns Tommen into another Joffrey? ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/48 "2016-05-02T11:05:55Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Does anyone else find the Sparrows to be annoying and really quite unbelievable? I just don’t get why the Lannisters don’t have the high sparrow assassinated in a way they can plausibly deny and put someone pliable in his place. > > Certainly Cersei wouldn’t hesitate to do such a thing, she certainly has the motivation. The fact that Margaery and Loras might end up killed in the fallout would seem to be be a bonus as far as she is concerned. I love them. I keep thinking of the early Christians in Rome. Whether Martin consciously has Roman Christians in mind I do not know(he probably does imo). I like the way they are portrayed as neither particularly good or bad, they are just a growing powerful presence in Westeros. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/49 "2016-05-02T11:36:47Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > maybe the rickety bridge was a tribute to Python’s holy grail. 🙂 That’s what it reminded me of. The Rickety Bridge is the Chekov’s Gun of Bridges. Inevitably, someone will fall off, or else (more likely) the bridge will break and collapse. In fact, I was surprised that the bridge _didn’t_ collapse. It almost invariably does – The Bridge of San Luis Rey, Shrek, The Man Who Would be King, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Gold\*… After all, if the bridge _wasn’t_ going to collapse, they’d make it something other than a swinging bridge. It’d be a nice, stable, solid, braced-up bridge. It works nicely as a bit of graphic shorthand – this rickety bridge represents our hero’s tenuous position. Or, in this case, the highly iffy situation of succession in the Iron Lands. Kind of interesting that they’ve been showing that model of the Island during the opening animation with those swinging, swaying bridges between the towers just for a symbolic moment like this. \*Offhand, the only Rickety Bridges that _doesn’t_ collapse that I can think of is in William Friedkin’s _Sorceror_. And, of course, you example of _Monty Python and the Holy Grail_. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/50 "2016-05-02T11:42:54Z")
Who would have thought that Ramsey could do something even worse? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/51 "2016-05-02T12:00:29Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Come on Roose, you let Ramsay get a drop on you like that? > [@Emiliana](#): > > I wasn’t expecting Ramsay to just up and kill Roose like that. This was very disappointing to me, to see Roose Bolton killed so easily as _(another movie spoiler comparison-ITD)_and so quickly with the same technique used to kill Han Solo. “Dad! I love you!” Stab. Really doesn’t serve the character well at all. > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I don’t remember Ramsay locking the gate to the kennels, so why didn’t his stepmother get the hell out of there as soon as it was obvious that he was up to no good? > [@Colibri](#): > > She didn’t strike me as being particularly agile, especially carrying a baby. Yeah, she’s an overweight woman unused to physical labor _who has just been dragged out of bed within hours of giving birth_ and is holding a newborn baby. And where is she going to go anyway that the dogs won’t find her within seconds? Besides, it’s not realistic for people to always be able to understand, determine, manage, or execute the best self-preservation action under stress. Very often, people just freeze in terror. ---
**Author:** ![nofloyd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nofloyd/32/2870_2.png) [@nofloyd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nofloyd)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/52 "2016-05-02T12:33:37Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > I think it was a bit irresponsible for Tyrion to trust his own judgment when walking into the dragons’ den. And for Varys to let him. Even in an ep with so much happening, Tyrion’s quick decision to take care of the dragons right now without an emergency demanding instant action does stand out as overly hasty pacing. I’d like to see a morning after scene with Tyrion not remembering/barely remembering what he did because he was so drunk - Varys filling him in about his bravery going right up to the dragons - Tyrion’s horror - and admitting he does need to drink a little less. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/53 "2016-05-02T12:34:47Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > This was very disappointing to me, to see Roose Bolton killed so easily and so quickly with the same technique used to kill Han Solo. “Dad! I love you!” Stab. Really doesn’t serve the character well at all. Not everyone has seen The Force Awakens yet, you know. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_Prize](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d2c977/32.png) [@Sir\_Prize](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Prize)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/54 "2016-05-02T12:43:22Z")
> [@nofloyd](#): > > Even in an ep with so much happening, Tyrion’s quick decision to take care of the dragons right now without an emergency demanding instant action does stand out as overly hasty pacing. > > I’d like to see a morning after scene with Tyrion not remembering/barely remembering what he did because he was so drunk - Varys filling him in about his bravery going right up to the dragons - Tyrion’s horror - and admitting he does need to drink a little less. Well they are using the excuse that the dragons had stopped eating and he didn’t want Dany to come back to a couple of dead dragons. They looked healthy to me. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/55 "2016-05-02T12:58:29Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Does anyone else find the Sparrows to be annoying and really quite unbelievable? I just don’t get why the Lannisters don’t have the high sparrow assassinated in a way they can plausibly deny and put someone pliable in his place. > > Certainly Cersei wouldn’t hesitate to do such a thing, she certainly has the motivation. The fact that Margaery and Loras might end up killed in the fallout would seem to be be a bonus as far as she is concerned. The sparrows killed the pliable guy that was head of the church and replaced him with this guy. That’s where their power comes from, it doesn’t matter who you kill there are always more. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/56 "2016-05-02T13:27:08Z")
Can someone remind me what was going on with the Iron Islands and the Greyjoys? It seems like forever since we’ve seen them. I think I remember Theon’s sister trying to save him but failing. And they were using the war of the five kings to try to take some more territory but now that’s failing? > [@Sterling\_Archer](#): > > It seemed like since the wolf was asleep, Jon was still “asleep”. Melisandre does her thing. Wolf wakes, Jon wakes. I figured that it was just that Ghost was sensitive to what’s going on with Jon. When Jon was killed, Ghost was howling, and so now Ghost could hear or smell or something that Jon was waking back up, and then that’s what Jon did. ---
**Author:** ![Algernon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Algernon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algernon)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/57 "2016-05-02T13:35:06Z")
> [@Sam\_Lowry](#): > > I figured that it was just that Ghost was sensitive to what’s going on with Jon. When Jon was killed, Ghost was howling, and so now Ghost could hear or smell or something that Jon was waking back up, and then that’s what Jon did. Precisely. The Red Woman (I don’t have confidence that I can spell Melisandra correctly) did exactly what Thoros did to bring back the dead – just say the words. Neither Thoros nor the Red Woman really understands how it works. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/58 "2016-05-02T13:38:52Z")
For a split second I thought it was Roose who was stabbing Ramsay: “You’ll always be my firstborn.” Which is a problem because you’re a maniac, and now I have an option, so… \ Only problem is, it would be much too quick and nice a death for Ramsay. ---
**Author:** ![LVBoPeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/858c86/32.png) [@LVBoPeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LVBoPeep)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/59 "2016-05-02T13:43:18Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > For a split second I thought it was Roose who was stabbing Ramsay: > “You’ll always be my firstborn.” Which is a problem because you’re a maniac, and now I have an option, so… \ > > Only problem is, it would be much too quick and nice a death for Ramsay. I thought this too- I even cheered :(. But Roose being dead is not a bad thing and called it on Walda/Little Roose not being long for this world. Best part of this episode (besides the obvious) was Tyrion with the dragons. After last weeks lame Tyrion/Varys segment, it was nice to have the Imp back in full awesome mode. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/60 "2016-05-02T13:52:36Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Does anyone else find the Sparrows to be annoying and really quite unbelievable? I just don’t get why the Lannisters don’t have the high sparrow assassinated in a way they can plausibly deny and put someone pliable in his place. > > Certainly Cersei wouldn’t hesitate to do such a thing, she certainly has the motivation. The fact that Margaery and Loras might end up killed in the fallout would seem to be be a bonus as far as she is concerned. Cersei made a huge, stupid mistake: she thought she was using the Sparrows, but they were using her. She imagined the chief Sparrow was an amoral cynic like herself, rather than a sincere fanatic. She thought she had bought the Sparrows’ allegiance. She went to Sparrow HQ alone, without a group of armed guards because she imagined the Sparrows saw her as an ally. That was a dreadful mistake. The Sparrows WEREN’T all that powerful, but Cersei helped MAKE them powerful. She tried to turn them into a weapon against Margery, but they had their own agenda, one she couldn’t comprehend. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643.md?page=4)