# Game of Thrones 6.02 "Home" 5/1/16 \[Show discussion\]

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**Created:** [May 1, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643 "2016-05-01T22:37:59Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/101 "2016-05-02T17:14:43Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> I preferred, “You make dwarf jokes, I make eunuch jokes.”
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> “I don’t make dwarf jokes.”
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> “But you _think_ them!”

Winner of Tyrion one-liner of the night:  
“That’s what I do; I drink, and I know things.”

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/102 "2016-05-02T17:18:14Z")

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Some thoughts:

I also thought for a second that Roose killed Ramsey.

The Flashback to Old Winterfell was interesting. Pre Hodor Hodor! And we see the woman who indirectly caused the rebellion in the first place. It made me understand why Ned was so patient and understanding of Arya’s tom boy ways: she was just like her aunt.

Ramsey’s murder of his Step Mother and Brother was drawn out way too long. It wasn’t suspenseful; it was gratuitous.

The rescue at Castle Black by the Wildlings was a great moment.

Loved the scene between Tyrion and the dragons but it was not clear to me why they were so well behaved. Dany locked them away in the first place because she seemed to be losing control over them.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/103 "2016-05-02T17:19:31Z")

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“I don’t make dwarf jokes.”

You’ll soon need a score card to keep up with the emasculated male characters on this show.

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[QUOTE=Quimby]

Love the scene between Tyrion and the dragons but it was not clear to me why they were so well behaved. Dany locked them away in the first place because she seemed to be losing control over them.  
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The implication is that they are somewhat psychic. Drogon knew when Mommy was in trouble and apparently knew who was attacking her versus who was defending her, and the two chained ones know that Tyrion means them no harm.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/105 "2016-05-02T17:25:36Z")

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> [@Pedro](#):
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> I have no idea anymore what is the point of Bran’s story arc, like why is he in that cave, what is the end goal or who/what all those weirdos are.

The fight against the White Walkers will require help from many sources: Jon’s Valyrian steel, the knowledge Sam gains about dragonglass at the Citadel, and the supernatural powers that Bran is gaining from the Three-eyed Raven and the Children. These strands will no doubt come together at some point, along with a hefty dose of dragon-fire.😉

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/106 "2016-05-02T17:46:04Z")

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Was it the same actress playing Theon’s sister? She looked and sounded a little different.

Also interesting that the Iron Islands line of succession isn’t clear. It looks like there’s some sort of challenge that would take place.

> [@Quimby](#):
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> Loved the scene between Tyrion and the dragons but it was not clear to me why they were so well behaved. Dany locked them away in the first place because she seemed to be losing control over them.

Drogon was the one who was misbehaving. The other two were fine for the most part, but she was worried they would get worse.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/107 "2016-05-02T17:50:39Z")

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Meereen seems to be too peaceful a place after Daenerys fled. We saw a full blown offensive by the Sons of the Harpie. Did enough of them die that they’ve gone dormant licking their wounds? The Meereen crew seems pretty casual about the whole thing, but the city should be in upheaval, if not open rebellion with various factions fighting it out.

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Was it the same actress playing Theon’s sister? She looked and sounded a little different.
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> Also interesting that the Iron Islands line of succession isn’t clear. It looks like there’s some sort of challenge that would take place.

They mentioned a “kingsmoot,” which seems to imply an election of some kind.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/109 "2016-05-02T17:53:38Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> “I don’t make dwarf jokes.”
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> You’ll soon need a score card to keep up with the emasculated male characters on this show.

I find it a little jarring that even their ostensible friends like to needle them about it.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/110 "2016-05-02T18:04:06Z")

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I never read the books and I feel like I’m missing a ton of info on the gods… Do they actually exist? Some priests are portrayed as almost like real world medieval Christian priests/monks, fanatical, but without any actual miraculous powers. Others, and it looks like at least some are from an entirely different pantheon? appear to have priests capable of miracles… but many seem more like wizards/witches than priests Like the Red Lady and the fire wizard guys from Season 1 that got eaten by the dragons in their tower.

I guess it’s finally time to look up a wiki now that there isn’t a risk of spoilers.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/111 "2016-05-02T18:14:51Z")

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It is common in fiction that being brought back to life changes a person. I submit that Jon’s new life transformation should be that he forever walks the world with only teeny, weeny piece of cloth to cover his modesty.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/112 "2016-05-02T18:21:23Z")

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It’s really impossible to tell. There are followers of certain gods who have magical powers, but there is also magic not attached to any gods.

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My only complaint this episode was with the dragon shackles. Somehow an iron 3-inch thick linch-bolt suspending the weight of a 100 lb hinge collar can be pulled free with the tips of your fingers. Where do I get me some of this Westerosi WD-40?

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One thing that has been mentioned time and again-- all magic, be it religious in nature or not-- started ‘working’ quite recently after being dormant for centuries.

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My own take on the resurrection–I think Jon warged into Ghost before his body died. The Red Witch repaired his body to the extent possible, and Jon then warged back into his own body–thus explaining Ghost’s reaction.

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Why wouldn’t Ned tell his children “We don’t know/We do know why Willis has stopped talking, but his name is Willis, and call him that.” Whatever the cause of his hodoring it seems disrespectful to call him by his affliction.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/117 "2016-05-02T18:42:30Z")

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> [@Mr\_Shine](#):
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> Why wouldn’t Ned tell his children “We don’t know/We do know why Willis has stopped talking, but his name is Willis, and call him that.” Whatever the cause of his hodoring it seems disrespectful to call him by his affliction.

It seemed like he only responded to Hodor, seems pointless to use his name when he wants to be Hodor.

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> [@GargoyleWB](#):
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> My only complaint this episode was with the dragon shackles. Somehow an iron 3-inch thick linch-bolt suspending the weight of a 100 lb hinge collar can be pulled free with the tips of your fingers. Where do I get me some of this Westerosi WD-40?

Yes, put that shackle pin on a 2 ton dragon and it stays put for weeks, a tiny dwarf nudges it with his fingers and it slides right out.

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> One thing that has been mentioned time and again-- all magic, be it religious in nature or not-- started ‘working’ quite recently after being dormant for centuries.

So in some sort of sync with winter?

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-02-home-5-1-16-show-discussion/753643/120 "2016-05-02T18:57:43Z")

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> [@GargoyleWB](#):
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> My only complaint this episode was with the dragon shackles. Somehow an iron 3-inch thick linch-bolt suspending the weight of a 100 lb hinge collar can be pulled free with the tips of your fingers. Where do I get me some of this Westerosi WD-40?

This I chose to just let go, Those collars would have required some fairly serious leverage to take off. but it would also have been needless time spent missing the point of the scene.

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