# Game of Thrones 6.03 "Oathbreaker" 5/8/2016 \[Show discussion\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 8, 2016, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-03-oathbreaker-5-8-2016-show-discussion/754345 "2016-05-08T22:17:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2016, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-03-oathbreaker-5-8-2016-show-discussion/754345/1 "2016-05-08T22:17:28Z")
[6.01 The Red Woman](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=791171) [6.02 Home](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=791887) The books do not exist in this thread. [This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19282027) is the thread for open discussion about the books and show. One thing I’d like to suggest - if something comes from the previews or future episode descriptions, it would be appreciated if you spoiler boxed it. Those things are put together by marketing people, and not the writers, and can give away things we’d rather know when the writer/editor wanted to, not the marketing team. ---
**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-03-oathbreaker-5-8-2016-show-discussion/754345/2 "2016-05-09T01:02:41Z")
The final episode of season four, where Tyrion memorably confronts his father, was aired on Father’s Day. I wonder if there will be any mother-related events (or revelations) in tonight’s episode. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-03-oathbreaker-5-8-2016-show-discussion/754345/3 "2016-05-09T02:01:30Z")
There was that cryptic conversation of the sparrow with the king. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-03-oathbreaker-5-8-2016-show-discussion/754345/4 "2016-05-09T02:02:41Z")
Oh no, Shaggydog ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Yersenia\_Pestis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e495f1/32.png) [@Yersenia\_Pestis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yersenia_Pestis)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-03-oathbreaker-5-8-2016-show-discussion/754345/5 "2016-05-09T02:04:35Z")
Who was the guy that was with Ned in the tower of joy flashback? Also, could bran have the power to change the past?! I think that was just a tease… I’m thinking Ramsay is going to torture that stark kid, we’ll get some many scenes of violence, then second to last episode Jon storms winterfell \>\> my best guess so far ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-03-oathbreaker-5-8-2016-show-discussion/754345/6 "2016-05-09T02:04:56Z")
Well, that’s three direwolves down. Shit. Speculation that Jon would leave the Watch seems correct. I imagine he’ll find out about Rickon and head to Winterfell. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-03-oathbreaker-5-8-2016-show-discussion/754345/7 "2016-05-09T02:06:01Z")
> [@Yersenia\_Pestis](#): > > Who was the guy that was with Ned in the tower of joy flashback? Which guy? One of his companions was Howland Reed, Meera and Jojen’s father. The two opponents were Kingsguard. One was Arthur Dayne. The rest were not named. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-03-oathbreaker-5-8-2016-show-discussion/754345/8 "2016-05-09T02:06:07Z")
> [@Yersenia\_Pestis](#): > > I’m thinking Ramsay is going to torture that stark kid, we’ll get some many scenes of violence, then second to last episode Jon storms winterfell \>\> my best guess so far I have no interest in seeing or even hearing about Rickon getting tortured by Ramsay. ---
**Author:** ![Yersenia\_Pestis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e495f1/32.png) [@Yersenia\_Pestis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yersenia_Pestis)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-03-oathbreaker-5-8-2016-show-discussion/754345/9 "2016-05-09T02:06:26Z")
No idea what role arya is going to play in the larger story so far… ---
**Author:** ![Yersenia\_Pestis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e495f1/32.png) [@Yersenia\_Pestis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yersenia_Pestis)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-03-oathbreaker-5-8-2016-show-discussion/754345/10 "2016-05-09T02:08:16Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I have no interest in seeing or even hearing about Rickon getting tortured by Ramsay. Me neither, the torture scenes is something I absolute hate about this show ---
**Author:** ![Yersenia\_Pestis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e495f1/32.png) [@Yersenia\_Pestis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yersenia_Pestis)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-03-oathbreaker-5-8-2016-show-discussion/754345/11 "2016-05-09T02:09:21Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Which guy? One of his companions was Howland Reed, Meera and Jojen’s father. The two opponents were Kingsguard. One was Arthur Dayne. The rest were not named. Who was the guy that finally killed Arthur (back stabbed)? ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-03-oathbreaker-5-8-2016-show-discussion/754345/12 "2016-05-09T02:12:54Z")
> [@Yersenia\_Pestis](#): > > Who was the guy that finally killed Arthur (back stabbed)? Howland Reed. It’s funny, young Eddard is supposed to be Sean Bean 17 years before season 1. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-03-oathbreaker-5-8-2016-show-discussion/754345/13 "2016-05-09T02:15:49Z")
Is the oathbreaker in the title supposed to be Jon? cause that’s kinda bullshit, the oath is very specific about ending when you die. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-03-oathbreaker-5-8-2016-show-discussion/754345/14 "2016-05-09T02:24:17Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Is the oathbreaker in the title supposed to be Jon? cause that’s kinda bullshit, the oath is very specific about ending when you die. He’s not dead. I think his own father would behead him if he were still alive. ---
**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-03-oathbreaker-5-8-2016-show-discussion/754345/15 "2016-05-09T02:24:37Z")
I don’t know how many of you were aware of the existence of the subreddit [Fuck Olly](http://www.reddit.com/r/fuckolly), but they are positively _giddy_ right now. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-03-oathbreaker-5-8-2016-show-discussion/754345/16 "2016-05-09T02:25:09Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Is the oathbreaker in the title supposed to be Jon? cause that’s kinda bullshit, the oath is very specific about ending when you die. Well, it’s a catchier title than “oath that is no longer valid.” I did think the episode was going to be Jaime heavy. Theoretically if you revive someone through CPR or an aed or whatever, are they no longer bound by the oath? ---
**Author:** ![Waltzes\_with\_Cacti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90ced4/32.png) [@Waltzes\_with\_Cacti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waltzes_with_Cacti)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-03-oathbreaker-5-8-2016-show-discussion/754345/17 "2016-05-09T02:26:35Z")
I was glad to see Max von Sydow reprising his role as the Ghost of Christmas Past. I love Max von Sydow. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-03-oathbreaker-5-8-2016-show-discussion/754345/18 "2016-05-09T02:32:10Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > He’s not dead. I think his own father would behead him if he were still alive. _Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death._ He died. That he was brought back from the dead is irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-03-oathbreaker-5-8-2016-show-discussion/754345/19 "2016-05-09T02:40:53Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > _Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death._ > > He died. That he was brought back from the dead is irrelevant. Sure, if he wants to get off on a technicality. But it certainly violated the spirit of the law. I noticed that the show titles typically refer to more than one thing. For example, in “The Gift”, the gift referred to Tyrion for Dany from Mormont as well as Lancel for Olenna from Little Finger. In this case, it refers not only to John, but also to the Umber guy, who is pledging support to Ramsay when he knows that a Rickon Stark, the rightful Lord, is still alive. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-03-oathbreaker-5-8-2016-show-discussion/754345/20 "2016-05-09T02:44:11Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > Sure, if he wants to get off on a technicality. But it certainly violated the spirit of the law. I noticed that the show titles typically refer to more than one thing. For example, in “The Gift”, the gift referred to Tyrion for Dany from Mormont as well as Lancel for Olenna from Little Finger. In this case, it refers not only to John, but also to the Umber guy, who is pledging support to Ramsay when he knows that a Rickon Stark, the rightful Lord, is still alive. Not quite, Lord Bolton was the rightful lord. That was the King’s word, the north would certainly prefer a Stark but that doesn’t make them the rightful lords. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-03-oathbreaker-5-8-2016-show-discussion/754345.md?page=2)