# Game of Thrones 6.05 "The Door" 5/22/16 \[Show discussion\]

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 23, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426 "2016-05-23T00:58:44Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/1 "2016-05-23T00:58:44Z")

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[6.01 The Red Woman](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=791171)  
[6.02 Home](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=791887)  
[6.03 Oathbreaker](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=792608)  
[Book of the Stranger](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=793154)

The books do not exist in this thread.

[This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19282027) is the thread for open discussion about the books and show.

One thing I’d like to suggest - if something comes from the previews or future episode descriptions, it would be appreciated if you spoiler boxed it. Those things are put together by marketing people, and not the writers, and can give away things we’d rather know when the writer/editor wanted to, not the marketing team.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/2 "2016-05-23T01:24:47Z")

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Holy franks and beans!

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/3 "2016-05-23T01:29:55Z")

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That’s an origin twist I did not expect

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**Author:** ![Yersenia\_Pestis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e495f1/32.png) [@Yersenia\_Pestis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yersenia_Pestis)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/4 "2016-05-23T02:00:48Z")

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Hodor… So sad

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/5 "2016-05-23T02:02:21Z")

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Hold the door. ☹

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**Author:** ![Yersenia\_Pestis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e495f1/32.png) [@Yersenia\_Pestis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yersenia_Pestis)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/6 "2016-05-23T02:03:56Z")

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Interesting origin for the white walkers… So those forest children created them? What for exactly? Talk about an extreme weapon

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/7 "2016-05-23T02:04:43Z")

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Explains so much. Well done.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/8 "2016-05-23T02:04:54Z")

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Those were some big saggy balls for such a young kid. I joke because I’m blubbering like a baby. Damn you, Game of Thrones.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/9 "2016-05-23T02:05:17Z")

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I feel sick.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/10 "2016-05-23T02:06:07Z")

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Why would Sansa trust Littlefinger? “Oh, you won’t go with me? Well how about I just tell you something that would make you want to come down my troops anyway.”

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**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/11 "2016-05-23T02:07:56Z")

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I’m totally confused as to what happened to both older Hodor and young Hodor. Could either or both time travel like Bran?

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/12 "2016-05-23T02:09:20Z")

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> [@Yersenia\_Pestis](#):
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> Interesting origin for the white walkers… So those forest children created them? What for exactly? Talk about an extreme weapon

To fight the first men.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/13 "2016-05-23T02:10:23Z")

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> [@Emiliana](#):
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> I’m totally confused as to what happened to both older Hodor and young Hodor. Could either or both time travel like Bran?

Neither. But somehow, Bran became visible and audible to him. Bran “possessed” him…but this time in the past and Hodor hear the attack and the phrase, “Hold the door.” It caused his seizure and his ability only to say “holdthedoor”.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/14 "2016-05-23T02:11:24Z")

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What was that spear/weapon the girl threw at a walker and killed? What was that weapon???

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/15 "2016-05-23T02:12:07Z")

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Sansa doesn’t trust Littlefinger. Where’d you get that idea? Also, was there a preview?

I’m assuming the weapon was made of obsidian. Sam used a dagger of obsidian to kill a White Walker.

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> [@Emiliana](#):
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> I’m totally confused as to what happened to both older Hodor and young Hodor. Could either or both time travel like Bran?

No. Bran seemed to be not just seeing the past, but present there in some way. He seems to have funneled what was happening in his present into the past and bent Hodor’s mind back then.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/17 "2016-05-23T02:12:17Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> What was that spear/weapon the girl threw at a walker and killed? What was that weapon???

Dragonglass tip.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/18 "2016-05-23T02:12:51Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> What was that spear/weapon the girl threw at a walker and killed? What was that weapon???

Obsidian/dragon glass spearhead.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/19 "2016-05-23T02:13:10Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> What was that spear/weapon the girl threw at a walker and killed? What was that weapon???

I assume it was a spear with a dragonglass (obsidian) head.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Sansa doesn’t trust Littlefinger. Where’d you get that idea? Also, was there a preview?

She’s going to Riverrun based on his information.

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