# Game of Thrones 6.05 "The Door" 5/22/16 \[Show discussion\]

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**Created:** [May 23, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426 "2016-05-23T00:58:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/261 "2016-05-25T00:58:51Z")

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> [@Waltzes\_with\_Cacti](#):
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> Dany can’t have children? I mean, we all know that she miscarried Drogo’s child, but is it established that she can’t have another? Though I will admit to being curious about what sort of contraception she employs during sexy time with toyboy Daario.

She definitely believes she can no longer have children. I doubt she is taking any contraceptive measures at all.

It isn’t an issue that seems to be explored but I doubt Daenerys would care much about preventing conception.

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**Author:** ![Waltzes\_with\_Cacti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90ced4/32.png) [@Waltzes\_with\_Cacti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waltzes_with_Cacti)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/262 "2016-05-25T01:04:41Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> She definitely believes she can no longer have children. I doubt she is taking any contraceptive measures at all.
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> It isn’t an issue that seems to be explored but I doubt Daenerys would care much about preventing conception.

Speaking of conception, though in another womb, if Sansa finds she’s preggers with that sadist’s child, I hope she aborts it and sends the fetus to him in a box.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/263 "2016-05-25T01:13:33Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> The Children of the Forest were the original followers of the Old Gods, and the religion was then adopted by the First Men. The Children obviously have supernatural powers and this is related to the Old Gods and the weirwood trees.
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> The Lhazareen witch also showed supernatural powers in cursing Drogo and Dany’s baby through Blood Magic.
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> The Warlocks of Quarth have supernatural powers but it’s not clear what religion they practice if any.

The random dick burning sorcerer of Varys’ youth could, at the least, summon something.

Maggie the Something or Other appeared to have prophecy, maybe.

Qyburn can make Frankenstiens.

The dudes in Kings Landing can craft wildfire.

The Night’s King can raise the dead and a bunch of other cool stuff.

Danerys is, on occasion, fireproof. And has some dragon empathy.

Wildlings and Starks can warg, and neither are particularly devout to the Old Gods.

Jojen Reed and Bran could greensee.

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**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/264 "2016-05-25T01:36:12Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> She definitely believes she can no longer have children. I doubt she is taking any contraceptive measures at all.
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> It isn’t an issue that seems to be explored but I doubt Daenerys would care much about preventing conception.

True. Legitimacy would be rather a moot point since she could simply legitimize her own child, and anyone who recognized as Queen in the first place would recognize that. Since her child & heir would derive it’s status from her it’s paternity would be completely irrelevant. Daenerys already considers herself above the social mores govern ordinary women & men.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/265 "2016-05-25T02:12:13Z")

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For those who liked the actor who played Stannis: [The Tunnel: PBS Debuts British-French Crime Series in June - canceled + renewed TV shows - TV Series Finale](http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/tunnel-pbs-debuts-crime-series-june/)

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/266 "2016-05-25T02:24:25Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> I’ll grant it’s a fantasy story but the continued absurdity of what appears to be never more than eighty people at a time on a few islands you can get across with maybe four good shots of your 5-wood constituting a “kingdom” was always bad.

I’m assuming only the nobility get to vote at the kings moot and thats all we were seeing, there must also be many tens of thousands of smallfolk on the Iron Isles. And i’m not sure where you are getting your estimate of the size of the Iron Islands from, they’ve never been shown to be that small, we only see shots of one location there, so we can’t tell how big they really are.

GoT has a big budget, but not so big that they can create massive crowd shots and sweeping vistas for every single Kingdom.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/267 "2016-05-25T03:05:38Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Maggie the Something or Other appeared to have prophecy, maybe.

That would be Maggy the Frog.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/268 "2016-05-25T04:10:59Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Qyburn can make Frankenstiens.

He’s a former maester. Maesters generally disdain magic, so maybe his resurrectionist skill is more like Dr. Frankenstein’s than wizardry.

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> The dudes in Kings Landing can craft wildfire.

Alchemist’s Guild. They do use magic, but it’s unclear if it’s related to any religion or gods.

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> The Night’s King can raise the dead and a bunch of other cool stuff.

He was evidently given his powers by the Children of the Forest, so they would be somehow related to the Old Gods.

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> Wildlings and Starks can warg, and neither are particularly devout to the Old Gods.

They are both followers of the Old Gods, although it’s not clear how warging is related to the religion.

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> Jojen Reed and Bran could greensee.

Again, this seems to be related to the Old Gods.

So there’s lots of supernatural powers at work in the GoT, but they don’t seem to be restricted to one religion or belief system. Maybe it’s like the Faceless Men’s concept of the Many-faced Gods. There are different ways of tapping into the magic in the world, but it’s all different aspects of the same force.

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**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/269 "2016-05-25T04:16:44Z")

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Jaqen has been mixing his pronouns since he first showed up in a cage in season two. The Faceless Men (and Women) have never been consistent.

Some people seem to think they should be, and maybe even imagine that they usually are and that when they’re not it’s a “screwup by the writers”, but a man thinks that a group of men (and possibly women) should pay a bit more attention and make fewer assumptions.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/270 "2016-05-25T04:47:58Z")

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> [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](#):
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> How are they going to convince someone into marriage with zero dicks between them? I guess Yara could marry someone, but Westeros culture, being what it is, would probably mean the new husband would be in charge.

A Girl went blind and got her sight back.  
Jon died and got his life back  
Theon can stay hopeful.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/271 "2016-05-25T05:05:33Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> A Girl went blind and got her sight back.  
> Jon died and got his life back  
> Theon can stay hopeful.

I don’t think he’s getting his dick back.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/272 "2016-05-25T06:24:50Z")

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You think fashioning a new dick made of fire or ice or cast off flesh is beyond the capabilities of the Red Priestesses, the Nights King or Quyburn?  
😉

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/273 "2016-05-25T09:06:45Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Theon can stay hopeful.

We don’t know if he “only” got a penectomy or if he also got his testicles removed. If he still has his balls then potentially he could still have children, if a skilled enough maester did some work on him. Knowing Ramsay’s sadism it would actually make sense to only do the penectomy and leave the testicles, which would leave you still able to feel intense sexual desire, but no conventional way to satisfy it.

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**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/274 "2016-05-25T13:33:15Z")

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What every house North of the wall needs:  
[![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/9b1PBzl.jpeg "Hodør") ](https://imgur.com/9b1PBzl)

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**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/275 "2016-05-25T13:56:07Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> > [@Lobohan](#):
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> > Maggie the Something or Other appeared to have prophecy, maybe.
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> That would be Maggy the Frog.

Maggie the Ocelot.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/276 "2016-05-25T14:49:37Z")

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> [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](#):
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> What every house North of the wall needs:  
> [Hodør - Imgur](http://imgur.com/9b1PBzl)

What’s next? A dildo named the Greyjoystick? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/277 "2016-05-25T15:04:51Z")

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Seen any of these in elevators?: [https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/13221387\_1631000440558093\_5043944851605329956\_o-1.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=780](https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/13221387_1631000440558093_5043944851605329956_o-1.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=780)

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**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/278 "2016-05-25T17:38:59Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> You think fashioning a new dick made of fire or ice or cast off flesh is beyond the capabilities of the Red Priestesses, the Nights King or Quyburn?  
> 😉

A Prong of Ice and Fire

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/279 "2016-05-25T17:54:34Z")

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_Game of Bones_

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When you play the Game of Boners, you win or you live very frustrated.

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