# Game of Thrones 6.05 "The Door" 5/22/16 \[Show discussion\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 23, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426 "2016-05-23T00:58:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/21 "2016-05-23T02:16:10Z")
> [@Bruce\_Wayne](#): > > Obsidian/dragon glass spearhead. I’m dumb. Was it just laying there or did we know it was there? How did she get that? ---
**Author:** ![Yersenia\_Pestis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e495f1/32.png) [@Yersenia\_Pestis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yersenia_Pestis)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/22 "2016-05-23T02:16:18Z")
Feels pretty hopeless for bran and friend. Poor hodor can’t hold that door for more than feel minutes… I guess they will deus ex machina an escape ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/23 "2016-05-23T02:16:46Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > She’s going to Riverrun based on his information. I thought that she was sending Brienne there. She and Jon are going to rally the North. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/24 "2016-05-23T02:17:06Z")
Nooooo! Hodooooooor! ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/25 "2016-05-23T02:19:20Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > I thought that she was sending Brienne there. She and Jon are going to rally the North. Yes, fair. Still splitting her force based on the word of the least trustful person in the world. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/26 "2016-05-23T02:20:30Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > She’s going to Riverrun based on his information. She sent Brienne. Also, this information is correct as Littlefinger got it from whathisface who was trying to train Robin. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/27 "2016-05-23T02:20:53Z")
We’re running out of dire wolves too. (Only two left, only one whose whereabouts are known. Assuming Shaggydog is actually dead.) ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/28 "2016-05-23T02:23:11Z")
So if I’m understanding this correctly, Bran is pretty much responsible for young Hodor losing his ability to speak and adult Hodor dying? Hodor sprung into action only because Bran controlled him via warging, yes? And another direwolf bites the dust. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/29 "2016-05-23T02:23:43Z")
Wow, lots of good stuff in this episode. 1. Arya watching the play about Ned. Very good. 2. Revelation of the origin of the White Walkers 3. Origin of “Hodor” 4. Death of Three Eyed Raven and Summer and Hodor and Leaf 5. Resolution of the relationship between Daenerys and Jorah ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/30 "2016-05-23T02:24:32Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > She sent Brienne. Also, this information is correct as Littlefinger got it from whathisface who was trying to train Robin. Yohn Royce? No, that was never discussed between them. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/31 "2016-05-23T02:24:40Z")
> [@Emiliana](#): > > So if I’m understanding this correctly, Bran is pretty much responsible for young Hodor losing his ability to speak and adult Hodor dying? Hodor sprung into action only because Bran controlled him via warging, yes? > > . Did Hodor recognize Bran Stark and choose to help him this whole time because he saw him as a child? ---
**Author:** ![LVBoPeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/858c86/32.png) [@LVBoPeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LVBoPeep)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/32 "2016-05-23T02:24:55Z")
Hodor and another direwolf in the the same goddamn episode? F\*\*\* this show… ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/33 "2016-05-23T02:25:23Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Yes, fair. Still splitting her force based on the word of the least trustful person in the world. As formidable as Brienne is, I wouldn’t consider sending one person to Riverrun to be “splitting your force.” ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/34 "2016-05-23T02:26:05Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > We’re running out of dire wolves too. (Only two left, only one whose whereabouts are known. Assuming Shaggydog is actually dead.) Yeah that bums me out, I was hoping for a couple of dire wolfs to fight Ramsay’s hounds. > [@Mahaloth](#): > > I’m dumb. Was it just laying there or did we know it was there? How did she get that? I’m assuming it belonged to one of the children of the forest and was just laying around. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/35 "2016-05-23T02:29:28Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Yohn Royce? No, that was never discussed between them. Yes it was. I just watched last week’s episode before this one. ---
**Author:** ![Pasta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@Pasta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pasta)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/36 "2016-05-23T02:33:28Z")
Brilliant. I particularly like that the trips to the past are obeying paradox-free rules of time travel (in a most heartbreaking way tonight). Makes you wonder whether Ned’s hearing “Father!” at the Tower of Joy might have had influence on him… ---
**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/37 "2016-05-23T02:36:05Z")
Hodor _and_ the direwolf? Goddammit. I like that Sansa is no longer the naive girl she used to be. But I’m afraid that she might not be as good at The Game just yet as she thinks she is. I worry for her. I so wanted Euron (sp?) Greyjoy to actually be drowned. It would have been absolutely fucking hilarious. He has a big splashy introduction, kills the previous king, wins the Kingsmoot … then just drowns like a bitch, forcing them to accept a Queen for the first time. The play was both funny and heartbreaking. I mean, depicting Ned as a total idiot isn’t _completely_ wrong … but still! I have to assume the Faceless Men knew about the play’s plot. The music during the play seemed somewhat similar to the show’s theme as well. I almost got existential vertigo from that final scene. Not only does the episode have a play within a play, it also features Recursive Time Warging. Bran and Arya are, in their own ways, watching depictions of past events. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/38 "2016-05-23T02:39:53Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Yes it was. I just watched last week’s episode before this one. I literally just watched that scene. The say nothing about Riverrun or the Blackfish ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/39 "2016-05-23T02:40:30Z")
> [@BlackKnight](#): > > The play was both funny and heartbreaking. I mean, depicting Ned as a total idiot isn’t _completely_ wrong … but still! The best part was watching Arya go from laughing along when the king is slapping Joffrey around to “yo, this is fucked up” when Ned shows up. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426/40 "2016-05-23T02:41:38Z")
That play also shows that Arya is not no one. She is still Arya Stark. I’m afraid this faceless thing may not end well for her. Did I hear there were going to be two seasons after this one? I hope not. How long can they drag this out? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-05-the-door-5-22-16-show-discussion/755426.md?page=3)