# Game of Thrones 6.07 "The Broken Man" 6/5/16 \[Show Discussion\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 6, 2016, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631 "2016-06-06T00:20:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/101 "2016-06-06T17:10:46Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Captain Darling as Lord Glover! — [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu6YFBQOB3c](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu6YFBQOB3c) I was waiting for Davos to say he had a cunning plan to defeat the Boltons ---
**Author:** ![Doyle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doyle/32/439_2.png) [@Doyle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doyle)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/102 "2016-06-06T17:19:43Z")
I think why Maergery isn’t doing her wifely duties is for no other reason that she is pissed at the king for not rescuing her and her brother. She recognizes him for the wimp he is and that’s a complete turn off. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/103 "2016-06-06T17:20:23Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Have we seen any of those Brotherhood guys before? Hound appeared to recognize someone, perhaps the guy with the beard who did the talking? I figured the Hound just recognized that they were going to be trouble, and that’s why he talked to the Septon about how he might have to resort to violence again. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/104 "2016-06-06T17:20:33Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > It’s good the Greyjoys are heading to Mereen. Meeting Varys and Grey Worm is probably the best thing that could happen to Theon. The Brotherhood Without Boners ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/105 "2016-06-06T17:21:37Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Yeah. Despite the earlier somewhat-menacing visit of the three riders, there’s no way for the Hound to know at this point that they really (a) are with the Brotherhood, (b) are worshippers of the Lord of Light, or (c) have anything to do with the massacre of the bearded septon’s followers. > > I bet that won’t stop him from kicking some serious butt, though… Well, they said the Lord of Light “amen” bit of “The night is dark and full of terrors.” That’s a clue that they are followers or are at least familiar enough and pretending. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/106 "2016-06-06T17:29:48Z")
> [@Duke\_of\_Rat](#): > > The Brotherhood Without Boners I am so stealing this. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/107 "2016-06-06T17:31:25Z")
I thought I recognized Volantis right away, even before they cut to Theon, based on what we saw when Tyrion was there. The crowded buildings right on the bridge over the canal (or bay) was pictured - Tyrion was pissing off a balcony into the water when Joras nabbed him. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/108 "2016-06-06T17:31:50Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > …Yeah. Despite the earlier somewhat-menacing visit of the three riders, there’s no way for the Hound to know at this point that they really (a) are with the Brotherhood, (b) are worshippers of the Lord of Light, or (c) have anything to do with the massacre of the bearded septon’s followers. Agreed, though they certainly acted like they were followers of the Lord of Light. Upon their departure after riding up to the septon’s group the first time, they did say to be careful because “the night is dark and full of terrors.” Isn’t that the catchphrase for followers of the Lord of Light? ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/109 "2016-06-06T17:44:42Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Was this the first time it was clearly established Theon’s sister is a lesbian? > [@John\_Mace](#): > > I was wondering if she was just partying with the men, and wasn’t necessarily a lesbian. I dunno, it seemed to come pretty natural to her. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/110 "2016-06-06T17:49:47Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Damn. I saw Ian McShane, and I figured he’d stick around a while. Me too. This show is a bit too quick paced, at times. :dubious: > [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > fuuuuuck! Arya, I thought you’d be better prepared than that . . . The faceless men are too good at their job. Rather, I wondered why the waiff let her live. She’s a trained assassin, and she should have had zero issue with actually killing her right away. I wondered is this could have been some other kind of test rather than a real failed attempt to get her dead. 😕 > [@DigitalC](#): > > Lady Mormont is my new favorite character. I can’t believe she even went to war with the troops. Yeah. Let’s just give her the iron throne, get rid of all other wimps and morons who fight for it and get over with the show. We clearly now know who should be in charge. > [@BlackKnight](#): > > Given the number of returns we’ve had this season (Jon Snow, Benjen, and now the Hound), I wonder if a former dancing master might help out a wounded girl. I thought of him too and wondered if we would see him suddenly appear in the crowd. > [@](#): > > I don’t think that was the brotherhood without banners was it? I didn’t recall them being thieves but it’s been a log time since I saw those episodes. I was totally stunned that the brotherhood would just massacre a bunch of unarmed peasants. That’s totally the polar opposite of what they were fighting for. 😕 Why? Because they followed the faith of the seven? They turned into total murderous fanatics??? > [@Shakester](#): > > As stated, the Rose is the Tyrrell symbol. > The meaning is that she is still loyal to her family, not to the Sparrows. Maybe. It didn’t seem a very clear message to me. > [@robby](#): > > With respect to the Hound’s new religious commune, I spent most of the episode wondering what the heck they were building. A septuary. > [@EllisDee](#): > > I could buy Arya surviving due to much of the damage getting deflected by her coin purses, but did anyone else immediately think “Guess she’s not bearing children?” or was that just me? Me too. > [@Quimby](#): > > So who was Sansa writing? Has to be Littlefinger right? I assumed so much. Related : I read somewhere last week that the produced had stated that Littlefinger actually was sincere and didn’t realize in what situation he was putting Sansa when he made her accept to marry Ramsay. Being that clueless is out of character, but on the other hand, putting Sansa into serious harm’s way was equally out of character. Glad that they cleared this up because frankly they didn’t convey this message well. Also, a great episode. I loved the scene when the lady of thorns states clearly why Cersei is doomed and why. But frankly I would have liked the two previous seasons to be a little more quick paced and this one slower paced. Too many things happening too quickly. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/111 "2016-06-06T17:57:26Z")
You know I’m probably completely off the wall here, but when I saw the dead bodies when the hound came back, my first thought was Jonestown Koolaid. As in the Septon had poisoned them all and then hung himself. All in order to avoid having to fight possibly, as in the septon thought it was better for them all to die rather than have to fight. Remember how he was adamant that the hound come and drink some ale? Yeah there was some blood but that could have been a symptom of the type of poison. Another odd thing, the women were among the dead. If it was the Brotherhood without Banners wouldn’t they have raped and taken the women captive? Doesn’t make sense to me. Yeah I know thats not it, just saying what my thoughts were. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/112 "2016-06-06T17:57:53Z")
RE: Ian McShane, I suspect a resurrection. The Hound owes him and knows of someone capable of the job. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/113 "2016-06-06T18:00:50Z")
> [@Doyle](#): > > I think why Maergery isn’t doing her wifely duties is for no other reason that she is pissed at the king for not rescuing her and her brother. She recognizes him for the wimp he is and that’s a complete turn off. I doubt that’s it, because I don’t think that Margaery has ever had any attraction to Tommen, and she definitely wasn’t having sex with him before because she thought he was a big powerful king. She’s too pragmatic for attraction or lack of to get in the way of wifely duties if it would help her out. I think it’s like Duke of Rat speculated, that she’s really playing up her piousness, as a way to manipulate the High Sparrow and/or Tommen. > [@clairobscur](#): > > The faceless men are too good at their job. Rather, I wondered why the waiff let her live. She’s a trained assassin, and she should have had zero issue with actually killing her right away. I wondered is this could have been some other kind of test rather than a real failed attempt to get her dead. 😕 It’s either a test for the Waif since her feelings are getting in her way, or just the Waif failing to do her duty, and Arya will end up killing her, and the Waif’s face will be the one going on the wall. She should have been able to kill Arya immediately, and messed it up because she really doesn’t like Arya. ---
**Author:** ![Memnon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Memnon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Memnon)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/114 "2016-06-06T18:07:26Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Captain Darling as Lord Glover! — [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu6YFBQOB3c](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu6YFBQOB3c) Good spot! I didn’t recognise him at all. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/115 "2016-06-06T18:09:34Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > RE: Ian McShane, I suspect a resurrection. The Hound owes him and knows of someone capable of the job. The first resurrections by the red priest were necessary to show that it’s possible in this world. Johns resurrection was necessary for the story. Any more would be just superfluous and make it ridiculous. Lets just bring Ned, Rob and Caitlyn Stark back to life and they can all live happily ever after eh? Nope, not in GRRM’s world. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/116 "2016-06-06T18:11:51Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > Related : I read somewhere last week that the produced had stated that Littlefinger actually was sincere and didn’t realize in what situation he was putting Sansa when he made her accept to marry Ramsay. Being that clueless is out of character, but on the other hand, putting Sansa into serious harm’s way was equally out of character. Glad that they cleared this up because frankly they didn’t convey this message well. When he first met Ramsay, he said he didn’t know anything about him. Maybe a little recon would have helped, pairing Sansa up with a sadistic psycho wasn’t what Littlefinger needed. She might jump off a wall instead of sticking around, or something. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/117 "2016-06-06T18:15:14Z")
Do we know for sure there are any"faceless" assasins beyond Waif and Jaqen? I recall that there were other workers carting bodies around the House Of Black and White but didn’t get the impression that they were necessarily of the same job description. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/118 "2016-06-06T18:18:59Z")
> [@Bruce\_Wayne](#): > > I was wrong about Bravos, someone mentioned they were in Slavers Bay which I’m certain is Volantis like **Snarky Kong** said. > [@Skammer](#): > > I thought I recognized Volantis right away, even before they cut to Theon, based on what we saw when Tyrion was there. The crowded buildings right on the bridge over the canal (or bay) was pictured - Tyrion was pissing off a balcony into the water when Joras nabbed him. Definitely Volantis, although Volantis is still a good distance from Slaver’s Bay. The fleet still needs to go through or around the ruins of Valyria. > [@clairobscur](#): > > Related : I read somewhere last week that the produced had stated that Littlefinger actually was sincere and didn’t realize in what situation he was putting Sansa when he made her accept to marry Ramsay. Being that clueless is out of character, but on the other hand, putting Sansa into serious harm’s way was equally out of character. Glad that they cleared this up because frankly they didn’t convey this message well. From the look on Littlefinger’s face when Sansa was telling him what happened to her it definitely seemed he was genuinely distressed. I know Littlefinger is an expert in not revealing his true intentions but it looked to me like for once he was being authentic. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/119 "2016-06-06T18:23:09Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > Well, they said the Lord of Light “amen” bit of “The night is dark and full of terrors.” > That’s a clue that they are followers or are at least familiar enough and pretending. > [@robby](#): > > Agreed, though they certainly acted like they were followers of the Lord of Light. Upon their departure after riding up to the septon’s group the first time, they did say to be careful because “the night is dark and full of terrors.” Isn’t that the catchphrase for followers of the Lord of Light? Well, I know a few phrases from the RCC liturgy, but that doesn’t make me Catholic. The horseman might easily have said what he did for misdirection or to cast blame on others for what was later going to happen. > [@coremelt](#): > > You know I’m probably completely off the wall here, but when I saw the dead bodies when the hound came back, my first thought was Jonestown Koolaid. As in the Septon had poisoned them all and then hung himself… Too many open wounds and spilled blood for it to be poisoning. ---
**Author:** ![Dob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Dob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dob)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/120 "2016-06-06T18:27:06Z")
Lyanna Mormont aka “Little Grizzly” my new favorite, so I assume she dies in the next episode. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631.md?page=7)