# Game of Thrones 6.07 "The Broken Man" 6/5/16 \[Show Discussion\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 6, 2016, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631 "2016-06-06T00:20:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/121 "2016-06-06T18:30:53Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Too many open wounds and spilled blood for it to be poisoning. Not to mention the rest of the mess - food spilled all around, tables knocked over, and the bodies strewn haphazardly. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/122 "2016-06-06T18:33:17Z")
Why was Sansa giving Jon shit about Davos? It’s not like their father died supporting his former employer Stanis. Or like Davos mostly actually give pretty good advice when Davos listened to it. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/123 "2016-06-06T18:38:08Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > The faceless men are too good at their job. Rather, I wondered why the waiff let her live. She’s a trained assassin, and she should have had zero issue with actually killing her right away. I wondered is this could have been some other kind of test rather than a real failed attempt to get her dead. 😕 I think the problem was that the Waif made it personal. She could have killed Arya another way (stab in the back, poison, arrow to the heart) that would have been more certain but would be less up close and face to face. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/124 "2016-06-06T18:39:21Z")
Sam knocks Gilly up in a year or so. The White Walkers are winning the war, all the living are about done, all the heroes dead, but there’s only one White Walker left. Sam decides to lure the last White Walker in with his baby son and kill it with the family sword. As the White Walker approaches the baby, Sam rides in at the last second, but falls off his horse. The sword goes flying and kills the last White Walker on its own. The army of the dead collapses. Sam is declared King, wildling Gilly is Queen. The End. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/125 "2016-06-06T18:57:22Z")
Dear Lord, I hope not. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/126 "2016-06-06T19:05:14Z")
> [@Doyle](#): > > I think why Maergery isn’t doing her wifely duties is for no other reason that she is pissed at the king for not rescuing her and her brother. She recognizes him for the wimp he is and that’s a complete turn off. More likely she’s using it to manipulate him. If he’s really hard-up, she has a better chance of pulling him to whatever opinion she decides. He’s just a kid who mistakes lust for love at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/127 "2016-06-06T19:07:23Z")
> [@Dob](#): > > Lyanna Mormont aka “Little Grizzly” > > my new favorite, so I assume she dies in the next episode. Bout the right age, Lady Red is gonna have a bonfire. Declan ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/128 "2016-06-06T19:09:52Z")
> [@Duke\_of\_Rat](#): > > Sam knocks Gilly up in a year or so. Gilly has implied to Sam that she’s already knocked up, but I don’t think Sam has picked up on it. > [@](#): > > Sam is declared King, wildling Gilly is Queen. They would do a far better job than anyone we’ve seen so far. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/129 "2016-06-06T19:17:21Z")
Also, I think people are overthinking the Brotherhood razing the town. The brotherhood, at least as we saw it a few seasons ago, wouldn’t do it. But it’s possible these people are Brotherhood members who are going a little off the reservation. They saw a group of people, far away from anyone, and took it as an opportunity for some quick money. If some US soldiers steal some money from an Afghani farmer and murder his family, that doesn’t mean the US government supports that sort of thing, it means that the US govt. employed some shitty people. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/130 "2016-06-06T19:19:28Z")
> [@Shakester](#): > > Or, as about 37 other people in this thread have already mentioned, the wounds weren’t as bad as they looked, having been deflected by Arya’s coin purses. Or, even more likely, that wasn’t Arya getting stabbed. Arya is sneaky as hell. Arya doesn’t wander up to a table, loudly announce where she wants to go, throw money around, and demand a cabin upgrade. Arya certainly doesn’t do all that and then go stand on a bridge in the middle of town, paying no attention to her surroundings, especially when she knows there are people trying to kill her. That person didn’t walk like Arya, dress like her, or act like her. Didn’t even have Needle by her side. There’s a few possibilities about who it could be. But I’d put money on that not being Arya at all. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/131 "2016-06-06T19:22:23Z")
Except if the stabbing victim was, say, Jaquen, why would he continue with the disguise when she/he emerged from the harbor alone? Wouldn’t the show creators then show us the person as they actually were? ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/132 "2016-06-06T19:23:42Z")
That would be something if Margery was seducing and setting up the high sparrow. Open up to him about your sex life, tell him how you as well as your body now belongs to the church, that you’ll do whatever’s best for the church, how you need someone to teach you how to please the king, etc. Then set it up to be caught with him with his pants down by the other sparrows. ---
**Author:** ![Critical1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Critical1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical1)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/133 "2016-06-06T19:25:19Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Not to mention the rest of the mess - food spilled all around, tables knocked over, and the bodies strewn haphazardly. I kinda thought all the arrows were a give away. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/134 "2016-06-06T19:27:05Z")
Does anyone think it’s weird how everyone has started calling the head White Walker, the “Night King”? I heard Benjen mention it but I assumed he learned it from the Three-Eyed Raven. Where did everyone else come up with that name? > [@Lobohan](#): > > Also, I think people are overthinking the Brotherhood razing the town. The brotherhood, at least as we saw it a few seasons ago, wouldn’t do it. But it’s possible these people are Brotherhood members who are going a little off the reservation. They saw a group of people, far away from anyone, and took it as an opportunity for some quick money. > > If some US soldiers steal some money from an Afghani farmer and murder his family, that doesn’t mean the US government supports that sort of thing, it means that the US govt. employed some shitty people. The first we hear about the Brotherhood, before we ever meet them is that they’re outlaws and have been terrorizing the countryside. I don’t think of them as a tight organization, but just as a big group of people who have renounced serving any lord. They’re essentially the Westerosi version of sovereign citizens. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/135 "2016-06-06T19:30:09Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Except if the stabbing victim was, say, Jaquen, why would he continue with the disguise when she/he emerged from the harbor alone? Wouldn’t the show creators then show us the person as they actually were? Not if this is a twist to be revealed later, no. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/136 "2016-06-06T19:30:56Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Does anyone think it’s weird how everyone has started calling the head White Walker, the “Night King”? I heard Benjen mention it but I assumed he learned it from the Three-Eyed Raven. Where did everyone else come up with that name? > > The first we hear about the Brotherhood, before we ever meet them is that they’re outlaws and have been terrorizing the countryside. I don’t think of them as a tight organization, but just as a big group of people who have renounced serving any lord. > > They’re essentially the Westerosi version of sovereign citizens. I think that’s not quite correct. They are the remnants of Berric Dondariaon’s task force created by Ned Stark to bring in The Mountain, who was raiding the countryside. During the war of the five kings, they expanded their mandate to include protecting the countryside against the marauding armies that were pillaging all over the place. At least, that’s my recollection. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/137 "2016-06-06T19:37:35Z")
So are the assassins just strictly Murder for Hire folk? They seem to have no higher purpose or calling, which is kind of disappointing for a religion that has such supernatural gifts. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/138 "2016-06-06T19:47:09Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > So are the assassins just strictly Murder for Hire folk? They seem to have no higher purpose or calling, which is kind of disappointing for a religion that has such supernatural gifts. It’s weird, when we first meet them, they talk a lot about death as a gift, and how their god chooses death wisely, and balancing deaths, and crap like that. And then it turns out that the “god” “chooses” the “gift” largely on who pays cash money. And somehow it’s presented like we aren’t supposed to be massively let down by this. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/139 "2016-06-06T19:47:55Z")
> [@Critical1](#): > > I kinda thought all the arrows were a give away. Yep, it as basically Custer’s last stand. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631/140 "2016-06-06T19:50:01Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > And then it turns out that the “god” “chooses” the “gift” largely on who pays cash money. And somehow it’s presented like we aren’t supposed to be massively let down by this. It’s possible the price was non-monetary and has some spiritual or higher meaning to the Faceless Men. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-07-the-broken-man-6-5-16-show-discussion/756631.md?page=8)