# Game of Thrones 6.09 "Battle of the Bastards" 6/19/16 \[Show discussion\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 19, 2016, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-09-battle-of-the-bastards-6-19-16-show-discussion/757789 "2016-06-19T17:59:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-09-battle-of-the-bastards-6-19-16-show-discussion/757789/1 "2016-06-19T17:59:13Z")
[6.01 The Red Woman](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=791171) [6.02 Home](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=791887) [6.03 Oathbreaker](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=792608) [6.04 Book of the Stranger](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=793154) [6.05 The Door](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=793730) [6.06 Blood of My Blood](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=794365) [6.07 The Broken Man](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=794985) [6.08 No One](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=795607) The books do not exist in this thread. [This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19282027) is the thread for open discussion about the books and show. One thing I’d like to suggest - if something comes from the previews or future episode descriptions, it would be appreciated if you spoiler boxed it. Those things are put together by marketing people, and not the writers, and can give away things we’d rather know when the writer/editor wanted to, not the marketing team. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-09-battle-of-the-bastards-6-19-16-show-discussion/757789/2 "2016-06-19T20:25:57Z")
This should be a big one. Someone’s gonna die, right? Hopefully Ramsay. Wouldn’t it be a kicker if Jon died again for good? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-09-battle-of-the-bastards-6-19-16-show-discussion/757789/3 "2016-06-19T20:27:16Z")
Man I hope Rickon doesn’t die. But I’m expecting the worst. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-09-battle-of-the-bastards-6-19-16-show-discussion/757789/4 "2016-06-19T21:46:06Z")
I don’t see how this can go well for the Starks. Which means things may very well go well for the Starks. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-09-battle-of-the-bastards-6-19-16-show-discussion/757789/5 "2016-06-19T22:49:17Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > This should be a big one. Someone’s gonna die, right? Hopefully Ramsay. Wouldn’t it be a kicker if Jon died again for good? Hopefully Ramsay at Sansa’s hands. Jon dying again so soon after being resurrected would be downright bizarre and stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-09-battle-of-the-bastards-6-19-16-show-discussion/757789/6 "2016-06-20T02:07:47Z")
Well, that tied up a few loose ends. Nice ending for Ramsey. Looks like bad things ahead for Mel next week, too. Didn’t see how it could turn out otherwise for Rickon. Nice to see the development of the Meereen air force, I must admit. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-09-battle-of-the-bastards-6-19-16-show-discussion/757789/7 "2016-06-20T02:09:03Z")
I don’t understand what the masters thought would happen, specially once they saw that Dany was back. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-09-battle-of-the-bastards-6-19-16-show-discussion/757789/8 "2016-06-20T02:09:28Z")
Pretty straightforward an episode for episode 9. When did Sansa ride off to find Littlefinger? She never mentioned that to Jon once? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-09-battle-of-the-bastards-6-19-16-show-discussion/757789/9 "2016-06-20T02:09:57Z")
Well, that was satisfying. Gruesome, but satisfying. And Rickon’s fate was really sad. ---
**Author:** ![Rucksinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/898d66/32.png) [@Rucksinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rucksinator)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-09-battle-of-the-bastards-6-19-16-show-discussion/757789/10 "2016-06-20T02:12:12Z")
I guess they thought that the other 2 dragons were still chained up? I wasn’t really sure what had happened to them. Were they just hanging out in the dungeon, unchained? Getting fed periodically? I guess Sansa not telling Jon everything was one of those things just for the viewers. I was hoping that Jamie would give the giant cart(s) of weapons back to the Tulleys so they could join the fight. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-09-battle-of-the-bastards-6-19-16-show-discussion/757789/11 "2016-06-20T02:15:20Z")
Much more satisfying episode this week. The Second Battle of Winterfell was really quite spectacularly done. Based on what we had seen in previous episodes, I did expect the reinforcements from the Vale to be crucial. However, it does seem like it’s become a habit to have battles always be resolved by the Cavalry unexpectedly charging in at the very last minute (Tywin at the Battle of the Blackwater, Stannis at the Battle of Castle Black, Dothraki and dragons at Mereen). As many predicted, Ramsay’s fate was dogfood. I particularly liked Sansa’s little smirk as she walked away. That girl’s gone _baaad!_ ---
**Author:** ![Yersenia\_Pestis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e495f1/32.png) [@Yersenia\_Pestis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yersenia_Pestis)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-09-battle-of-the-bastards-6-19-16-show-discussion/757789/12 "2016-06-20T02:21:35Z")
Crazy prediction: rickon comes back as a white walker (assuming that they overrun wall and, eventually, winter fell) ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-09-battle-of-the-bastards-6-19-16-show-discussion/757789/13 "2016-06-20T02:21:47Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Pretty straightforward an episode for episode 9. > > When did Sansa ride off to find Littlefinger? She never mentioned that to Jon once? I think Littlefinger was the target of the message Sansa was seen writing and presumptively sent by raven. Wonder what she promised him in exchange? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-09-battle-of-the-bastards-6-19-16-show-discussion/757789/14 "2016-06-20T02:22:02Z")
The only surprise this episode is how big Rickon had gotten. Predictable but still highly enjoyable is how i would describe this episode. I do hope we are done with any more “We are in charge now you little twat!” “nope, dragons!” storylines for Dany. ---
**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-09-battle-of-the-bastards-6-19-16-show-discussion/757789/15 "2016-06-20T02:24:50Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > I do hope we are done with any more “We are in charge now you little twat!” “nope, dragons!” storylines for Dany. I dunno. I could watch that plot line pretty much… forever. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-09-battle-of-the-bastards-6-19-16-show-discussion/757789/16 "2016-06-20T02:34:20Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > I think Littlefinger was the target of the message Sansa was seen writing and presumptively sent by raven. Wonder what she promised him in exchange? I assumed marriage. Stark stock is on the rise after a long downturn. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-09-battle-of-the-bastards-6-19-16-show-discussion/757789/17 "2016-06-20T02:48:00Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > I assumed marriage. Stark stock is on the rise after a long downturn. Maybe, but legally speaking Littlefinger is Sansa’s uncle by marriage. Technically it might still be incest. ---
**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-09-battle-of-the-bastards-6-19-16-show-discussion/757789/18 "2016-06-20T02:48:01Z")
If Littlefinger has any lines on episode 10, the first thing he says. “I salute you, Lady Sansa, you are now in your rightful place as Lady of Winterfell.” Dynastic trouble is as old as dirt. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-09-battle-of-the-bastards-6-19-16-show-discussion/757789/19 "2016-06-20T02:49:04Z")
If anything Littlefinger would try to marry her to Robin. ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-09-battle-of-the-bastards-6-19-16-show-discussion/757789/20 "2016-06-20T02:50:36Z")
Both battles were shot really well. The clash of cavalry has to be one of the best done battle scenes ever. The shield wall was also done really well. It was nice to see at least some infantry tactics. It suffered from a few cliches but the battle of the bastards was done really well. The quibble I have is that one of the things that made Game of Thrones different was that the strong, not the good, won. Here we have Jon acting like a fool. Doing that cost Ned, Rob, and Stannis their lives. Jon seems to have acquired plot armor and remains free of serious consequences for his poor decisions. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-6-09-battle-of-the-bastards-6-19-16-show-discussion/757789.md?page=2)