# Game of Thrones 7.01 "Dragonstone" 7/16/17 \[Show Discussion\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 15, 2017, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-01-dragonstone-7-16-17-show-discussion/791324 "2017-07-15T15:54:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-01-dragonstone-7-16-17-show-discussion/791324/21 "2017-07-17T02:23:13Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Bah. Except the Frey scene, basically nothing happened. Meh. > > The Ed Sheeran cameo took me out of the show too. That’s pretty standard in early episodes. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-01-dragonstone-7-16-17-show-discussion/791324/22 "2017-07-17T02:29:20Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > The Ed Sheeran cameo took me out of the show too. Yeah, I hope that’s the last we see of suprise celebrity cameos. They need to knock that shit off. Ruins an otherwise excellent show. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-01-dragonstone-7-16-17-show-discussion/791324/23 "2017-07-17T02:31:53Z")
As Arya stepped away from the Frey girl it looked as if she might have been standing on a stool. I thought she’d go back to Winterfell. It will be fun watching her in Kings landing. I think they could have gotten to the point quicker on the dead march to show those undead giants. Sam’s drudgery montage could have been shorter as could the Dragonstone walkthrough. The Ed Sheera scene might have been a waste of time as well. They’re gonna have to pack more action and critical plot detail in the next six episode which means the episodes should only get better. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_Prize](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d2c977/32.png) [@Sir\_Prize](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Prize)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-01-dragonstone-7-16-17-show-discussion/791324/24 "2017-07-17T02:35:37Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I suspect that you were disappointed in how that played out. Yeah that was blah. Tyrion was very fond of Tommen and Myrcella. I hope that gets acknowledged somehow. When we pick up with Arya again will she be leaving a camp of dead Lannister soldiers? ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-01-dragonstone-7-16-17-show-discussion/791324/25 "2017-07-17T02:39:34Z")
pretty sure there is another celeb cameo coming up. Can’t remember who it is. Don’t understand why that would get people mad. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-01-dragonstone-7-16-17-show-discussion/791324/26 "2017-07-17T02:46:43Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > pretty sure there is another celeb cameo coming up. Can’t remember who it is. > > Don’t understand why that would get people mad. Interrupts suspension of disbelief. When I’m watching a prestige drama, I never want to go from “oh, I wonder what’s going to happen next” to “that’s not a character, that’s an actor.” ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-01-dragonstone-7-16-17-show-discussion/791324/27 "2017-07-17T02:46:53Z")
> [@Sir\_Prize](#): > > When we pick up with Arya again will she be leaving a camp of dead Lannister soldiers? If we do, Arya has then become one of the villains on the show. The entire point of that scene was for Arya to get a lesson on shared humanity and empathy. If she turns away from that… Good opener. My hope is after the character debacle that was The Battle of the Bastards, they let Jon be shown as an intelligent and worthy leader. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-01-dragonstone-7-16-17-show-discussion/791324/28 "2017-07-17T02:52:29Z")
So did everyone else avert their eyes during the montage of scenes showing Sam emptying chamberpots and filling soup pots (which for some reason looked exactly the same)? ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-01-dragonstone-7-16-17-show-discussion/791324/29 "2017-07-17T02:55:12Z")
that montage was funny but they had it go on too long. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-01-dragonstone-7-16-17-show-discussion/791324/30 "2017-07-17T03:07:00Z")
Good opener. I agree some parts were too slow. While it"s true that not much “happened,” I think it served well to set up action to come. I liked the Jon/Sansa scenes, and I always prefer Arya when she’s murderous. Love the Hound always! ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-01-dragonstone-7-16-17-show-discussion/791324/31 "2017-07-17T03:18:47Z")
Ok, so specific questions from this episode. [ul] [li]Euron really didn’t have a lot of emotional capital in his marry Dany plan, did he? His gift to Cersei will probably be Tyrion’s body?[/li][li]Will Jorah be healed in the Citadel? What’s going to happen to him in general?[/li][li]Will Arya make it to King’s Landling? I kind think she won’t and will get turned around to head north at some point.[/li][li]Where will Melisandre turn up?[/li][li]Cersei can’t will even with the Ironborn. How will she go down in a blaze of glory?[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-01-dragonstone-7-16-17-show-discussion/791324/32 "2017-07-17T03:20:14Z")
Was that Jorah Mormont in the cell at the Citadel? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-01-dragonstone-7-16-17-show-discussion/791324/33 "2017-07-17T03:25:03Z")
> [@River\_Hippie](#): > > Was that Jorah Mormont in the cell at the Citadel? I think thats a safe assumption. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-01-dragonstone-7-16-17-show-discussion/791324/34 "2017-07-17T03:25:41Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > I think thats a safe assumption. Not an assumption. They showed his face in the darkness. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-01-dragonstone-7-16-17-show-discussion/791324/35 "2017-07-17T03:32:08Z")
Cold open was amazing. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-01-dragonstone-7-16-17-show-discussion/791324/36 "2017-07-17T03:44:13Z")
The resolution to all of this seems obvious, though I know it won’t go smoothly. It seems like the North should form an alliance with Daenerys Targaryen. She has dragons and, if I understand it correctly, a lot of Dragonglass. They defeat the White Walkers and then take on Cercei. No idea how it all works out, but isn’t this the basic path forward? ---
**Author:** ![Flander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8c91f0/32.png) [@Flander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flander)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-01-dragonstone-7-16-17-show-discussion/791324/37 "2017-07-17T03:48:28Z")
Dear Hound, Please kill Ed Sheeran. That should satisfy everyone. Cordially, Flander ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-01-dragonstone-7-16-17-show-discussion/791324/38 "2017-07-17T03:51:42Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Interrupts suspension of disbelief. When I’m watching a prestige drama, I never want to go from “oh, I wonder what’s going to happen next” to “that’s not a character, that’s an actor.” Well no problem for me because I didn’t recognize any cameos in that scene. But come on, I recognize actors all the time. Tywin Lannister was Guy Perron, the hero of The Jewel in the Crown, Walter Frey was Filch from Harry Potter, Prince Doran was Dr. Bashir from Star Trek, Ellaria Sand is Niobe from Rome, the archmaester is Bridget Jones’s dad, the Hound is gentle Kenny from The Book Group. This wasn’t any different from what happens all the time. ---
**Author:** ![SuperNelson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@SuperNelson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuperNelson)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-01-dragonstone-7-16-17-show-discussion/791324/39 "2017-07-17T04:03:15Z")
Poor Jaime has to be feeling some strong deja vu. The queen on the Iron Throne has burned a significant part of King’s Landing, and seems to be going crazy after losing her children. Isn’t this how he got his nickname? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-01-dragonstone-7-16-17-show-discussion/791324/40 "2017-07-17T04:41:42Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Well no problem for me because I didn’t recognize any cameos in that scene. > > But come on, I recognize actors all the time. Tywin Lannister was Guy Perron, the hero of The Jewel in the Crown, Walter Frey was Filch from Harry Potter, Prince Doran was Dr. Bashir from Star Trek, Ellaria Sand is Niobe from Rome, the archmaester is Bridget Jones’s dad, the Hound is gentle Kenny from The Book Group. This wasn’t any different from what happens all the time. Right. I had no idea who Ed Sheeran was, so it didn’t register. And I agree it’s no different than having seen an actor in some other show. I keep thinking of Littlefinger as the mayor of Baltimore from _The Wire_, Olenna Tyrell as Emma Peel and a Bond girl, Ned Stark as Boromir, and the High Sparrow as I don’t know how many different roles. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-01-dragonstone-7-16-17-show-discussion/791324.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-01-dragonstone-7-16-17-show-discussion/791324.md?page=3)