# Game of Thrones 7.03 "The Queen's Justice" 7/30/17

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**Created:** [July 30, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-03-the-queens-justice-7-30-17/792453 "2017-07-30T18:18:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-03-the-queens-justice-7-30-17/792453/21 "2017-07-31T02:20:53Z")

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> [@ISiddiqui](#):
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> It strikes me that Cersei is completely out maneuvering Tyrion. Her father’s daughter indeed. And Iron Bank gold to come. Dany is going to need to unleash the dragons to win (though as Jon points out, it’s for a potential Throne of Ash).
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> Very good episode.

It’s probably more Euron Jamie Randyll Tarly and Qyburn than Cersei, but she is doing surprisingly well.

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-03-the-queens-justice-7-30-17/792453/22 "2017-07-31T02:21:36Z")

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I think someone in Daenery’s inner circle is a traitor. Too much coincidence in her military disasters.

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-03-the-queens-justice-7-30-17/792453/23 "2017-07-31T02:21:51Z")

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If Dany keeps going like this, it’s only going to be her, Tyrion and Missandei left, riding around on dragons solving mysteries  
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**Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-03-the-queens-justice-7-30-17/792453/24 "2017-07-31T02:23:17Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> I don’t know why Jon Snow doesn’t show people his scars. Might have made an impression on a woman that’s seen some magic in her life.

Did you notice that they specifically _didn’t_ tell her that Jon Snow was brought back from the dead? Davos said something about it and then Tyrion suggested it was just metaphorical.

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-03-the-queens-justice-7-30-17/792453/25 "2017-07-31T02:24:39Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Did you notice that they specifically _didn’t_ tell her that Jon Snow was brought back from the dead? Davos said something about it and then Tyrion suggested it was just metaphorical.

I guess when you are trying to rally humanity against the undead you might not want to bring attention to the fact that you might be playing for the wrong team.

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-03-the-queens-justice-7-30-17/792453/26 "2017-07-31T02:24:43Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Did you notice that they specifically _didn’t_ tell her that Jon Snow was brought back from the dead? Davos said something about it and then Tyrion suggested it was just metaphorical.

Yes, I did notice that. Hard to miss since Dany brought it back up a second time.Hence my question.

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-03-the-queens-justice-7-30-17/792453/27 "2017-07-31T02:25:07Z")

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I really good episode. It’s really hard to see who is going to win this ting and hearing Jon voice how it all makes no difference because the Walking Dead (referenced by name :)) are coming was nice.

Sad to see Olenna go. But glad she got a last thumb in Cresei’s eye and let them know who killed Geofrey. I wonder if that will change how she thinks about Tyrion? Probably not. It will help Jamie feel less guilty for helping him though I’m sure.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-03-the-queens-justice-7-30-17/792453/28 "2017-07-31T02:31:38Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> It’s probably more Euron Jamie Randyll Tarly and Qyburn than Cersei, but she is doing surprisingly well.

Well perhaps it’s a lot Jamie (who really acts more like a Hand than Qyburn), but I’m thinking they come up with their plans together - the abandoning Casterly Rock thing seems very Cersei though.

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-03-the-queens-justice-7-30-17/792453/29 "2017-07-31T02:37:45Z")

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“I am not a Stark!” Dragon swoops down on Jon’s head. A little bit of foreshadowing maybe?

Why would Jaime tell Cersei about Oleanna? That would serve no purpose. Except to make her even more crazy. I can’t see Jaime giving Oleanna the posthumous satisfaction.

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-03-the-queens-justice-7-30-17/792453/30 "2017-07-31T02:40:07Z")

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BTW, it seemed to be news to Jaime that Oleanna was responsible for poisoning Joffrey.

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> BTW, it seemed to be news to Jaime that Oleanna was responsible for poisoning Joffrey.

It was. He didn’t believe Tyrion did it but he didn’t know who did.

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-03-the-queens-justice-7-30-17/792453/32 "2017-07-31T02:53:05Z")

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I totally thought he was giving her the same “strangler” poison she gave Joffrey, but I guess Jaime and Cersei never did find out it was her. Until now.

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-03-the-queens-justice-7-30-17/792453/33 "2017-07-31T02:55:13Z")

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How about badass Oleanna:  
“Will it hurt?”  
“No.”  
GULP! “I killed Joeffrey” _drops mic_

Also, Bran continues to underwhelm.

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-03-the-queens-justice-7-30-17/792453/34 "2017-07-31T03:13:28Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Why would Jaime tell Cersei about Oleanna? That would serve no purpose. Except to make her even more crazy. I can’t see Jaime giving Oleanna the posthumous satisfaction.

It would prove Tyrion didn’t do it. He might want her to know that.

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-03-the-queens-justice-7-30-17/792453/35 "2017-07-31T03:19:43Z")

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> [@Lakai](#):
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> It would prove Tyrion didn’t do it. He might want her to know that.

Her mind is made up about Tyrion. She’ll just say they conspired together, imagine how she’ll torture her little brother, get a death lady boner and have a threesome with her brother and Eurone.

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-03-the-queens-justice-7-30-17/792453/36 "2017-07-31T03:34:43Z")

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Sansa’s reaction to Bran explaining why he can’t be Lord of Winterfell because he’s the Three Eyed Raven was hilarious. I don’t think anyone’s going to bring up the more obvious potential problem, which even it doesn’t disqualify him outright would give him the perfect excuse to renounce his right’s in favour of Sansa & her progeny.

> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Did you notice that they specifically _didn’t_ tell her that Jon Snow was brought back from the dead? Davos said something about it and then Tyrion suggested it was just metaphorical.

They also still have Melisandre on Dragonstone, at least for now.

> [@Quimby](#):
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> …Sad to see Olenna go. But glad she got a last thumb in Cresei’s eye and let them know who killed Geofrey. I wonder if that will change how she thinks about Tyrion? Probably not. It will help Jamie feel less guilty for helping him though I’m sure.

Yep, I’ll miss Olenna, but that was one hell of a death scene for her. After Jaime put the poison in her glass I was expecting her to grab the other one and empty her own vial of poison into it (for herself to drink, not Jaime).

> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Don’t think that title bodes well for Ellaria and the last sand snake.

I got to hand it to Cersei; she’s _extremely_ good at coming up with twisted & ironic ways to slowly torture her enemies.

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-03-the-queens-justice-7-30-17/792453/37 "2017-07-31T03:37:26Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Also, Bran continues to underwhelm.

I agree, something about his character is off. The previous three eyed raven didn’t seem so disconnected with his humanity.

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Shouldn’t Varys be talking to the northerners for whatever information he can get? “Oh, Littlefnger is hanging out at Winterfell. I remember the last time I saw him with Ned Stark.”

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-03-the-queens-justice-7-30-17/792453/39 "2017-07-31T04:49:22Z")

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> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> I meant to ask this in last week’s thread but forgot: When Euron promised Cersei a gift, we assume he meant Tyrion. However, it appears to be Ellaria who he had in mind. How did he know where Ellaria was; i.e. on one of Dany’s ships? And if he meant Ellaria or Tyrion, he might as well have thought Dany, since they would each presumably be equally difficult to abduct (at least from Euron’s POV).

One would think that not everyone in Yara’s little flotilla is loyal, or possibly Dany’s court.

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2017, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-03-the-queens-justice-7-30-17/792453/40 "2017-07-31T04:56:13Z")

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I can’t help thinking that Eddie Izzard would have done a much better job as Euron. Euron just isn’t sinister enough. He needs that hiss of cold evil in his character.

So, Jon Snow is going to forge weapons on Dragonstone is he? I’m guessing this is how we get Gendry back.

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