# Game of Thrones 7.05 "Eastwatch" 8/13/17 \[Show Discussion\]
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-05-eastwatch-8-13-17-show-discussion/793585
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [August 13, 2017, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-05-eastwatch-8-13-17-show-discussion/793585 "2017-08-13T22:26:17Z")
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### Author:  [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2017, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-05-eastwatch-8-13-17-show-discussion/793585/1 "2017-08-13T22:26:17Z")
[7.01 “Dragonstone”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=831107)
[7.02 “Stormborn”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20365308)
[7.03 “The Queen’s Justice”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20380167)
[7.04 “The Spoils of War”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=832777)
This is the discussion thread for the show on its own. The books do not exist in this thread. Open discussion for the books/show [here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20347039)
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### Author:  [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2017, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-05-eastwatch-8-13-17-show-discussion/793585/2 "2017-08-13T22:47:22Z")
Eastwatch? Is the Night Army just gonna walk around the wall?
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### Author:  [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-05-eastwatch-8-13-17-show-discussion/793585/3 "2017-08-13T22:49:56Z")
Possibly, they do bring winter (and presumably ice) with them.
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### Author:  [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2017, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-05-eastwatch-8-13-17-show-discussion/793585/4 "2017-08-13T23:51:34Z")
> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Eastwatch? Is the Night Army just gonna walk around the wall?
That’s what I’m assuming. I’m guessing that the ocean around coasts of the North hasn’t frozen over since the Wall itself was built.
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### Author:  [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2017, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-05-eastwatch-8-13-17-show-discussion/793585/5 "2017-08-14T00:18:07Z")
That would be kinda…disappointing. I fully expected the wall to go down, walking around it is so anti climatic. Even the Wildlings had to climb it if they wanted to get more than a handful of people on the other side.
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### Author:  [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2017, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-05-eastwatch-8-13-17-show-discussion/793585/6 "2017-08-14T01:35:49Z")
Well, I guess our Samwell can keep his sword after all.
:eek:
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### Author:  [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-05-eastwatch-8-13-17-show-discussion/793585/7 "2017-08-14T02:06:24Z")
So what did the note Arya stole say? If it isn’t somewhere online already i’ll be disappointed on the internet.
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### Author:  [@edwards\_beard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwards_beard)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2017, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-05-eastwatch-8-13-17-show-discussion/793585/8 "2017-08-14T02:09:42Z")
It was planted by Littlefinger. I’m figuring he still has the real one. But the one Arya found was by Sansa looked like she was asking Robb to bend the knee for Joffrey after Ned was beheaded
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### Author:  [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2017, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-05-eastwatch-8-13-17-show-discussion/793585/9 "2017-08-14T02:11:58Z")
> [@DigitalC](#):
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> So what did the note Arya stole say? If it isn’t somewhere online already i’ll be disappointed on the internet.
Something something Joffrey something something, signed Sansa, is all that I caught.
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### Author:  [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2017, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-05-eastwatch-8-13-17-show-discussion/793585/10 "2017-08-14T02:13:18Z")
> [@Colibri](#):
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> Something something Joffrey something something, signed Sansa, is all that I caught.
I read ‘died of wounds’ i thought.
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### Author:  [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2017, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-05-eastwatch-8-13-17-show-discussion/793585/11 "2017-08-14T02:15:43Z")
A long, long time ago I saw a story about something that happened in the days they had continuing serial stories at the movies. Where each week would end on a cliff hangar, and all week the audience would wonder how the hero could possibly survive and so they’d have to come back the next week.
And how there came a week that ended with the heroine helpless in a coach that was driven over the end of a huge cliff… oh, no! How could she possibly survive?
And so the audience shows up eagerly the next week. And the serial starts up, a few minutes backed up from where it ended, so they could reshow the terrible dilemma to set the cliff hangar up again… but this time the coach didn’t go over the cliff. It turned aside and continued rolling.
I think the start of this episode was rather less believable than that one from the old days.
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### Author:  [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2017, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-05-eastwatch-8-13-17-show-discussion/793585/12 "2017-08-14T02:15:53Z")
Ser Jorah, Lord of the Friend Zone, the permanently chaste, last of his name…
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### Author:  [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2017, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-05-eastwatch-8-13-17-show-discussion/793585/13 "2017-08-14T02:20:27Z")
the note was probably the one Sansa sent under duress asking Robb to support Joffrey before Ned was killed.
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### Author:  [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2017, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-05-eastwatch-8-13-17-show-discussion/793585/14 "2017-08-14T02:22:20Z")
> [@DigitalC](#):
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> So what did the note Arya stole say? If it isn’t somewhere online already i’ll be disappointed on the internet.
I thought it said “stole his crown” - it may have been the note that Sansa sent to Robb under duress telling him that Ned was a traitor so bend the knee to Joff.
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### Author:  [@edwards\_beard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwards_beard)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2017, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-05-eastwatch-8-13-17-show-discussion/793585/15 "2017-08-14T02:22:59Z")
OK I paused and read it. It looks like
“Robert is dead, killed from wounds he took in a boar …unreadable…Joffrey and tried to steal his throne. The Lannisters…unreadable…King’s Landing and swear loyalty to King Joffrey and…unreadable. Your faithful Sister, Sansa”
Glad to see Gendry back…but he really doesn’t know when to keep things to himself does he?
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### Author:  [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2017, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-05-eastwatch-8-13-17-show-discussion/793585/16 "2017-08-14T02:23:41Z")
Loved the “thought you might still be rowing” from Davos.
Right now there’s a Westerosi Magnificent Seven north of the Wall. Can’t wait to see how that turns out!
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### Author:  [@puddleglum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puddleglum)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2017, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-05-eastwatch-8-13-17-show-discussion/793585/17 "2017-08-14T02:24:03Z")
> [@DigitalC](#):
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> So what did the note Arya stole say? If it isn’t somewhere online already i’ll be disappointed on the internet.
It said that Robert died of wounds boarhunting. That Ned rebelled against Joffrey and that the Starks in Winterfell should support Joffrey. It was the note the forced Sansa to send after Ned was either arrested or killed.
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### Author:  [@Sir\_Prize](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Prize)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2017, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-05-eastwatch-8-13-17-show-discussion/793585/18 "2017-08-14T02:26:58Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> I think the start of this episode was rather less believable than that one from the old days.
I agree. That body of water must have an incredible undertow.
I called it last week that Dickon would be used to show Dany going too far. I thought when John told Jorah that he served with his father, Jorah would mention that he was saved by Sam Tarly who had told Jorah the same thing. But the writers didn’t want to give Dany a chance to second-guess herself.
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### Author:  [@arles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/arles)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2017, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-05-eastwatch-8-13-17-show-discussion/793585/19 "2017-08-14T02:28:08Z")
> [@TruCelt](#):
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> Well, I guess our Samwell can keep his sword after all.
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> :eek:
And he gets the big country house. I’m guess he is now Lord and Gilly is now Lady Tarly.
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### Author:  [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2017, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-05-eastwatch-8-13-17-show-discussion/793585/20 "2017-08-14T02:28:50Z")
> [@arles](#):
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> And he gets the big country house. I’m guess he is now Lord and Gilly is now Lady Tarly.
Well he’s already given all that up by taking the black.
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