# Game of Thrones 7.05 "Eastwatch" 8/13/17 \[Show Discussion\]

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**Created:** [August 13, 2017, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-05-eastwatch-8-13-17-show-discussion/793585 "2017-08-13T22:26:17Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 23, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-05-eastwatch-8-13-17-show-discussion/793585/436 "2017-08-23T19:10:18Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> As for Dany and Jon: yes, I do assume the end for them will be Dany showing Proper Female Submission to Jon. After that I suppose she could die. But the fact is that this show is profoundly socially-conservative in its values, and the final fates of Jon and Dany will reflect this (I’m predicting).
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> … snip …
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> She will bend the knee to Jon, and this will be deeply thrilling to many in the audience.

Meanwhile in Ep.6 … [spoiler]Jon Bends The Knee (or promises to at least).

Ep 6 thread quotes:

> [@Game of Thrones 7.06 "Beyond The Wall" 8/20/17](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-06-beyond-the-wall-8-20-17/794223/161):
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> As for plot developments in episode 6 that were called in last episode’s thread: … snip
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> Someone mentioned the possibility … snip

> [@Game of Thrones 7.06 "Beyond The Wall" 8/20/17](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-06-beyond-the-wall-8-20-17/794223/174):
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> Someone also made a prediction that Dany would be traditionally subservient to her male oppressor Jon. Oops 😃

> [@Game of Thrones 7.06 "Beyond The Wall" 8/20/17](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-06-beyond-the-wall-8-20-17/794223/255):
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> In episode _six_? Who predicted that?

I have to guess you are objecting to your prediction being apparently disproved in the very next episode, where your prediction is strictly stated as “final fates”. Fair enough. Things change…

But I know I wasn’t the only one who heard you groan when Jon Bent The Knee. 😃

I don’t really have a stake in a debate about the social values of Westeros (or RL for that matter), and may have even agreed with your prediction if I had to place a bet after Ep5. I just meant to lightheartedly poke somebody for Ep6 including exactly what they _didn’t_ predict.[/spoiler]

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