# Game of Thrones 7.07 "The Dragon and the Wolf" 8/27/17 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 27, 2017, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-07-the-dragon-and-the-wolf-8-27-17/794885 "2017-08-27T22:59:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-07-the-dragon-and-the-wolf-8-27-17/794885/21 "2017-08-28T02:42:05Z")
Like Joshua at the Battle of Jericho… Shaka, When Walls Fell… Liked the end of Littlefinger. Missed opportunity for Dany. One “Dracarys!” and she walks over to the Iron Throne… ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-07-the-dragon-and-the-wolf-8-27-17/794885/22 "2017-08-28T02:44:34Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > There’s a whole other continent out there – the one Daenerys spent most of the show on. Many large cities, probably a lot more people than all of Westeros. Hell, the Dothraki spend their entire lives going from one fight to the next and there are far more than twenty thousand of them. Their mere existence guarantees that there would be plenty of work for a mercenary company. In fact there was three mercenary companies in Essos that stood against Dany, her last boyfriend lead one of them. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-07-the-dragon-and-the-wolf-8-27-17/794885/23 "2017-08-28T02:45:28Z")
Besides Littlefinger, Tormund bought it too, I think. Also loved The Hound’s biggest grin to date when Brienne told him the only people who need protecting are those who get in Arya’s way. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-07-the-dragon-and-the-wolf-8-27-17/794885/24 "2017-08-28T02:45:32Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Like Joshua at the Battle of Jericho… > > Shaka, When Walls Fell… > > Liked the end of Littlefinger. > > Missed opportunity for Dany. One “Dracarys!” and she walks over to the Iron Throne… Yeah, I really don’t buy the whole kidnap the dead plan. It was never going to convince Cersei, and Tyrion and Varys both would know that. She might have agreed to it, but that fucking arena would have been filled with wildfire. Cersei would have lit the Dragon Pit like a candle. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-07-the-dragon-and-the-wolf-8-27-17/794885/25 "2017-08-28T02:46:33Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Now you know where the chain came from. Where? ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-07-the-dragon-and-the-wolf-8-27-17/794885/26 "2017-08-28T02:47:59Z")
This Aunt/rightful ruler stuff in light of what is happening is false drama…with maybe some weight on the aunt part. Let’s say Jon and Dany find out together: Jon:“I don’t want to rule the seven kingdoms, you can…as for you being my aunt, I don’t care, it doesn’t change what I feel. Besides the bloody Wall just collapsed.” Dany: “I agree.” Now maybe down the line I can see Jon sacrificing himself so that Dany and their child can survive. “Take this sword, give it to him.” That sort of thing. Edit: And how insignificant can Theons storyline get?? FFS. Jon should have just called him brother and they can kill him off in ep one of next season fighting side by side. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-07-the-dragon-and-the-wolf-8-27-17/794885/27 "2017-08-28T02:48:46Z")
The undead dragon was terrifying. Was he shooting ice? Fire? Pure energy? > [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > Yeah, Essos is to Westeros as Eurasia is to the Americas. Sorta. I took it more as Essos is to Westeros as greater Europe is to Great Britain, and like Great Britain, Westeros’s power and influence is disproportionately large relative to its size. (Size not counting areas north of the wall) ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-07-the-dragon-and-the-wolf-8-27-17/794885/28 "2017-08-28T02:49:59Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Where? They brought it with them to get the dragon, duh! They’ve been planning this for _millennia_. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-07-the-dragon-and-the-wolf-8-27-17/794885/29 "2017-08-28T03:01:08Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#): > > The undead dragon was terrifying. Was he shooting ice? Fire? Pure energy? In the old AD&D system, undead dragons (called Dracoliches) breathe “Spell Fire”, which is pure magic energy or such like. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-07-the-dragon-and-the-wolf-8-27-17/794885/30 "2017-08-28T03:04:50Z")
Questions, why was Tyrion playing peeping Tom at the end there? Also, Kit Harrington has a sweet, sweet auntie boffing ass. What is Jon’s name? I still didn’t catch the first name. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-07-the-dragon-and-the-wolf-8-27-17/794885/31 "2017-08-28T03:05:31Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Fucking her right after the big “she’s really his auntie” reveal seems a little subversive to me. That whole incest thing has not been presented in a positive view on the show so far. Am I reading to much into the fact that Bran’s voiceover explaining that Jon/Aegon is the true coincided with him topping Daenerys? :dubious: I mean I can’t complain to much since the camera sees more of whoever’s on top, but still. And maybe he’s right about the witch being wrong. Also when is somebody finally going to tell Samwell (who took all the credit for something Gilly discovered) what Daenerys did to his father & brother? > [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > Bye bye, Littlefinger! > > Nice to see the Stark girls working together, emphasizing their respective talents and abilities…and _Aegon_ Targaryon? I thought sure his name was Jahaerys. Oh well. Tis a good name. > > Winter’s surely here. Littlefinger dying took me completely by surprise. I especially loved the part were he was literally reduced to begging for mercy on his knees. > [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > My only quibble with this is they talk about their dad and missing him. Their dad always said the man who passes judgement on another should swing the sword but in this case Sansa passed judgement and Arya carried it out. > > No biggie really. Just saying. I think I missed the part were Sansa actually sentenced him to death. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-07-the-dragon-and-the-wolf-8-27-17/794885/32 "2017-08-28T03:05:54Z")
And how exactly did LF betray Cat?? Also, Hey Sansa he saved your bacon twice. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-07-the-dragon-and-the-wolf-8-27-17/794885/33 "2017-08-28T03:08:28Z")
I did say this a week ago. > [@Game of Thrones 7.06 "Beyond The Wall" 8/20/17](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-06-beyond-the-wall-8-20-17/794223/33): > > Can a dragon burn down(or through) the Wall? Can an undead dragon breathe fire still? > > If so, I see the final scene of the season the wall being broken down or burned through and the walkers marching through the hole. Spell broken, here come the zombies. Not too far off! ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-07-the-dragon-and-the-wolf-8-27-17/794885/34 "2017-08-28T03:10:09Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Am I reading to much into the fact that Bran’s voiceover explaining that Jon/Aegon is the true coincided with him topping Daenerys? :dubious: I mean I can’t complain to much since the camera sees more of whoever’s on top, but still. And maybe he’s right about the witch being wrong. Also when is somebody finally going to tell Samwell (who took all the credit for something Gilly discovered) what Daenerys did to his father & brother? > > Littlefinger dying took me completely by surprise. I especially loved the part were he was literally reduced to begging for mercy on his knees. > > I think I missed the part were Sansa actually sentenced him to death. I was really hoping for a line from Sansa, “I didn’t exactly get to the part where I sentenced him to die.” ---
**Author:** ![puddleglum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puddleglum/32/137_2.png) [@puddleglum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puddleglum)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-07-the-dragon-and-the-wolf-8-27-17/794885/35 "2017-08-28T03:10:58Z")
Where did Jaime go after he saw the snow starting? Did he go back to the dragonpit, Kings landing, or North? ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-07-the-dragon-and-the-wolf-8-27-17/794885/36 "2017-08-28T03:13:15Z")
> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > And how exactly did LF betray Cat?? > > Also, Hey Sansa he saved your bacon twice. Well, he led to the death of her husband and prevented her sister from helping her in the War of the Five Kings which led to the death of her son, her grandson, and herself. No big deal. Kinda like Mirri Maz Durr in season 1, does it really count as saving after you destroy a person’s entire life? ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-07-the-dragon-and-the-wolf-8-27-17/794885/37 "2017-08-28T03:16:15Z")
That was a really cool episode. They had me going for a bit there that Cersei would actually help them out. Season 8 is set up nicely now. > [@Dale Sims](#): > > Edit: And how insignificant can Theons storyline get?? FFS. Jon should have just called him brother and they can kill him off in ep one of next season fighting side by side. Yes! His story line has gotten ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-07-the-dragon-and-the-wolf-8-27-17/794885/38 "2017-08-28T03:21:11Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Questions, why was Tyrion playing peeping Tom at the end there? Also, Kit Harrington has a sweet, sweet auntie boffing ass. What is Jon’s name? I still didn’t catch the first name. Aegon. I didn’t like their choice in naming him for the show. His name should have been Jaehaerys. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-07-the-dragon-and-the-wolf-8-27-17/794885/39 "2017-08-28T03:31:21Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Questions, why was Tyrion playing peeping Tom at the end there?.. He has feelings for Daenerys that he knows will never be reciprocated and can never be acted on. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-07-the-dragon-and-the-wolf-8-27-17/794885/40 "2017-08-28T03:34:07Z")
I think Belric and Tormund are both alive. They were next to each other when the night king was having viseyrion melt the wall and we just got that speech from Belric last episode about possible reasons why him and Jon were raised from the dead. If he was raised for a higher purpose then we will get to know it in time and if not, they have to actually show him die. Anything else would be stupid. This was the actor who play rhaegar btw… > **[Wilf Scolding - IMDb](https://m.imdb.com/name/nm6251140/?ref_=tt_cl_t7)** > > Wilf Scolding. Actor: Andor. Wilf Scolding is known for Andor (2022), Game of Thrones (2011) and Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets of Dumbledore (2022). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-07-the-dragon-and-the-wolf-8-27-17/794885.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-7-07-the-dragon-and-the-wolf-8-27-17/794885.md?page=3)