# Game of Thrones 8.03 "The Long Night" 4/28/19 \[Show discussion\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 28, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190 "2019-04-28T20:36:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/61 "2019-04-29T02:57:06Z")
So exactly how are 20,000 golden company fuckers supposed to defeat two dragons and …what are player characters in Diablo called? Nephalem. The good guys have some 10 Nephalem left alive. 20,000 troops cant do shit against that. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/62 "2019-04-29T02:58:08Z")
So the Dothraki went down like bitches (what, no dragon-glass scythes?), the Unsullied are down to, what? One guy? The folk in the crypt seemed untouched mostly (despite all reason). Seems like there’s maybe 75 people left in all of Winterfell. And they all should be dead 10x over. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_Prize](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d2c977/32.png) [@Sir\_Prize](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Prize)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/63 "2019-04-29T02:59:09Z")
Did anyone else think that Bran would turn out to be Arya doing the face thing? ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/64 "2019-04-29T02:59:38Z")
Edd is dead. Read elsewhare-- Bran to Arya: Still only counts as one! ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/65 "2019-04-29T03:01:28Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Edd is dead. > Read elsewhare-- Bran to Arya: Still only counts as one! I feel like I need to rewatch Helm’s Deep (yes, I know the quote is from the Pelennor) and see if it was this dark and muddled a mess to watch. I don’t remember it being so. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/66 "2019-04-29T03:01:59Z")
> [@Sir\_Prize](#): > > Did anyone else think that Bran would turn out to be Arya doing the face thing? No, because the Night King didn’t locate or recognize Bran via reconnaissance or seeing him. He was psychically connected to Bran when he laid his hand upon him, and from that moment on always knew exactly where Bran was at all times. That’s what led to the plan of using Bran as bait. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/67 "2019-04-29T03:06:26Z")
Edds dead baby. Edds dead. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/68 "2019-04-29T03:06:36Z")
I don’t think there’s a need for spoilers about who died and who survived now the episode is over. But since it was so dark and some characters looked like they went down only to pop up again I’m not certain of a few. Definite deaths: Jorah Theon Edd Beric Melisandre Lyana Mormont The Night King and his entire army Definite survivors Jon Danaerys Arya Bran Sansa Jaime Tyrion Varys Missandei The Hound Davos I didn’t see these after the wight army was destroyed but assume their deaths would have been more prominent if they died. Brienne Sam Tormund Grey Worm Gendry Pod Gilly/Little Sam ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/69 "2019-04-29T03:08:45Z")
> [@Sir\_Prize](#): > > Did anyone else think that Bran would turn out to be Arya doing the face thing? She’s ruthless, but she wouldn’t kill her little brother to use his face. I didn’t expect what happened either, though. I was expecting a “battle of wits” moment like in Princess Bride. Bran would use his three eyed raven powers to, I don’t know, trick the NK somehow. And I think Jon still could be Azor Ahai, whatever that is. He gathered and led the army of the living against the dead, which is a pretty important role, even if he didn’t strike the killing blow. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/70 "2019-04-29T03:08:59Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I think the best stuff was the Arya hiding scene. Most of the up close brawling was too confusing and too dark for me to follow. > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Glad I wasn’t the only one who couldn’t follow everything, given how dark it was. I’m going to read all the recaps just to learn what I missed. You know… This series costs millions of dollars. You’d think they would allocate a couple/few hundred for a good light meter. It reminded me of the scene in _And God Spoke_ where the cinematographer said that he has a light meter from a great cinematographer. The latter gave it to him saying, ‘You need this more than I do.’ ---
**Author:** ![carlb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carlb/32/5930_2.png) [@carlb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carlb)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/71 "2019-04-29T03:09:16Z")
I thought the flaming Dothraki swords was a clever way to accomplish a couple of things: [ol] [li]Give a “bird’s eye” view of the opening charge of the battle, and,[/li][li]Instill a sense of fear and dread as we watch the flames die out in the distance in the ground-level point-of-view shots. Imagine being one of the foot soldiers and watching that happen.[/li][/ol] Not afraid to admit that i teared up when Lady Mormont died taking down the giant (was that Wun Wun? Do we know?). Hard. Core. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/72 "2019-04-29T03:09:48Z")
Also…here’s a crazy idea when fighting a piss-slow giant. Don’t run into the arc of his swing. Duck under and stab in the ankle ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/73 "2019-04-29T03:09:57Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > No, because the Night King didn’t locate or recognize Bran via reconnaissance or seeing him. He was psychically connected to Bran when he laid his hand upon him, and from that moment on always knew exactly where Bran was at all times. That’s what led to the plan of using Bran as bait. Also I don’t think Arya can wear the faces of living people. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/74 "2019-04-29T03:12:11Z")
> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > Also…here’s a crazy idea when fighting a piss-slow giant. Don’t run into the arc of his swing. Duck under and stab in the ankle They didn’t run anywhere, they all just stood there while he stomped them with his mace like whack a mole. ---
**Author:** ![HammerJoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a6a055/32.png) [@HammerJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HammerJoe)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/75 "2019-04-29T03:13:23Z")
Why did Melisandre killed herself in the end? I was one of those that got bored… I was disapointed with the night king twist when Danerys tried to toast him to a crisp. So it turns out its not fire vs ice after all. I am sorry but everyone should have been dead. It would have been impossible for anyone to survive that onslaught of enemies. There was just too many to survive for any amount of time. Kinda disapointed that Cersei is not going to have to deal with the Night king… meh. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/76 "2019-04-29T03:15:24Z")
> [@HammerJoe](#): > > Why did Melisandre killed herself in the end? I don’t think she killed herself, she just died from overextending. Or because it was her time. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/77 "2019-04-29T03:16:28Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Brienne > Sam > Tormund > Grey Worm > Gendry > Pod > Gilly/Little Sam We got shots of all of them as the dead were dropping dead, and a group shot of every one alive and well in the crypts at the very end. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/78 "2019-04-29T03:16:35Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > I thought Pod died right at the beginning. It looked like Brienne tried to help him but couldn’t. Did I just spend the whole episode being sad about Pod and he’s not dead? > > And we didn’t see Ghost again after the Dothraki charged. > > I don’t like battle episodes but I thought that was intense. I scared the cats a few times. I just watched that scene again and Brienne was knocked down and yelling “arrrrhhggg”. I thought she was yelling “Pod”. :smack: I said this was one I wouldn’t watch again but maybe I should. I think I might have missed some things in all that darkness. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/79 "2019-04-29T03:16:53Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Also I don’t think Arya can wear the faces of living people. We have seen Arya’s face on Jaquen’s body (when he drank the poison to pay for the life) and Arya still has her original face. But fair enough. > [@Colibri](#): > > Definite survivors > > Jaime > > I didn’t see these after the wight army was destroyed but assume their deaths would have been more prominent if they died. > > Brienne > Pod When Arya killed the Night King and the dead fell, we got a 3-shot of Brienne, Jaime and Pod standing next to each other. (They fought together the whole episode.) ---
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> [@HammerJoe](#): > > Why did Melisandre killed herself in the end? Her job was done. Her only goal was to stop the Night King. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190.md?page=5)