# Game of Thrones 8.03 "The Long Night" 4/28/19 \[Show discussion\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 28, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190 "2019-04-28T20:36:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/81 "2019-04-29T03:17:56Z")
> [@carlb](#): > > Not afraid to admit that i teared up when Lady Mormont died taking down the giant (was that Wun Wun? Do we know?). Hard. Core. There were a couple of giants with the Army of the Dead when they came through the Wall, so it most likely one of those. However, it thought the giant was missing an eye, and Wun Wun was shot in the eye by Ramsay when he died. I suppose he might have been buried outside Winterfell and was resurrected. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/82 "2019-04-29T03:19:36Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > I feel like I need to rewatch Helm’s Deep (yes, I know the quote is from the Pelennor) and see if it was this dark and muddled a mess to watch. I don’t remember it being so. Conversation at our house: “Uh, Two Towers had the Helm’s Deep battle. It was at Night. It was raining. We understood all of it perfectly well and could see everything happening.” This was a foggy, smoky, dark mess. Only the last 30-40 minutes worked. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/83 "2019-04-29T03:20:13Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > We have seen Arya’s face on Jaquen’s body (when he drank the poison to pay for the life) and Arya still has her original face. But fair enough. NM read that wrong. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/84 "2019-04-29T03:20:29Z")
If it helps, to me his face looked exactly like Wun Wun’s, even including the eye wound that originally killed him. > [@DigitalC](#): > > Jaquen was just another face the faceless men used. Right, but we saw an anonymous faceless man wearing an Arya face, and Arya isn’t dead, so it’s not strictly necessary to kill someone to wear their face. Though that scene could have just been artistic license, I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/85 "2019-04-29T03:25:53Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > When Arya killed the Night King and the dead fell, we got a 3-shot of Brienne, Jaime and Pod standing next to each other. (They fought together the whole episode.) Thanks. I remember the shot. I saw Jaime there, and thought I saw Pod, but wasn’t completely sure about Brienne. Brienne’s survival was the most surprising to me. I thought she lead the list of Most Likely to Die. [I correctly called Jorah, Theon, and Edd](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21602819&postcount=82) last week. I also got the major survivors right except for Beric. The episode was considerably less decimating than I expected. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/86 "2019-04-29T03:27:46Z")
Yeah it was weird how it look like Jamie Brianne etc. were completely overtaken by the zombies, and then at the end they were all still alive. While all the non-major characters were dead. Too contrived. Also predictable that the ancestors would animate in the crypt but handled dispassionately. Was expecting to recognize at least one long lost Stark. I do appreciate that Arya was the one who killed the night king. Did Theron’s sister die? Agreed that it was very difficult to keep track of which dragon we were looking at if they weren’t breathing fire. I know some people who had identical twins and they would put a different color bow on each girl’s hair to keep them straight. Would it have been too much to ask to have Rhaegal wear a green bow and Drogon wear a blue bow? Still holding out hope for Tyrion and Sansa. The only humorous moment in the whole episode was when she told him that he was the best of he4 husbands. That Jon Snow sure can fight. Cersei seems pretty tame compared to the NK. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/87 "2019-04-29T03:30:18Z")
Well I was wrong in last week’s thread when I said that i doubted they’d wrap up the White Walker threat this early in the season. But they did. I gather that the remainder of the season will be the Game of Thrones of the title. And several characters have claims on the throne (Dany, Jon, Cersei, Gendry and others perhaps). ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/88 "2019-04-29T03:30:59Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > Did Theron’s sister die? Yara is in Pyke. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/89 "2019-04-29T03:31:03Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Well I was wrong in last week’s thread when I said that i doubted they’d wrap up the White Walker threat this early in the season. But they did. I gather that the remainder of the season will be the Game of Thrones of the title. And several characters have claims on the throne (Dany, Jon, Cersei, Gendry and others perhaps). Yup. First thing i said when the credits started rolling: “Wait. They won??” ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/90 "2019-04-29T03:31:23Z")
That whole episode was hot garbage. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/91 "2019-04-29T03:32:39Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Brienne’s survival was the most surprising to me. Speaking of Brienne, Jaime and Pod, and to a lesser Sam, during this episode I found it satisfying that the living didn’t need great fighting skills to effectively fight the dead. It’s not like the dead fight like water dancers. So every time they showed the three musketeers, I kept thinking that it doesn’t matter that Jaime’s fighting left-handed or that Pod is probably above average at best; all they have to do is defend a mindless bum rush and connect once with their weapon and boom. All that really mattered were basic competency and the will to stand and fight, and on that front both Jaime and Pod were worthy of fighting side by side with Brienne. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/92 "2019-04-29T03:37:19Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Yara is in Pyke. There was _someone_ in the darkness who resembled her. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/93 "2019-04-29T03:38:41Z")
And BTW, the HBO website gives the title as The Long Night. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/94 "2019-04-29T03:39:31Z")
Arya’s ninja move, dropping the knife to her other hand, then stabbing the Night King, made it all worthwhile. The only thing I expected but didn’t see was any of the lesser White Walkers get taken out by Valerian steel or dragon glass. I guess they really wanted to go with the lost cause until the last moment. I liked it. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/95 "2019-04-29T03:40:43Z")
I think the entire next episode will be how a few hundred living people can dispose of 100,000+ dead, decaying bodies. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/96 "2019-04-29T03:40:46Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > Her job was done. Her only goal was to stop the Night King. But what was her job? She lit the Dothraki swords. To no purpose. She lit the wood in the trenches. To no purpose. She told Berin he filled his purpose. So? The only salvation might be if she told Arya to get out to the grove. Because otherwise Arya’s going there at that time from the middle of a castle in a battle was the most ridiculously contrived moment in a ridiculously contrived episode. Not hot garbage, steronz. Cold garbage in the pot, nine days old. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/97 "2019-04-29T03:42:33Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > I think the entire next episode will be how a few hundred living people can dispose of 100,000+ dead, decaying bodies. Dragon fire? ---
**Author:** ![LVBoPeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/858c86/32.png) [@LVBoPeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LVBoPeep)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/98 "2019-04-29T03:44:45Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Arya’s ninja move, dropping the knife to her other hand, then stabbing the Night King, made it all worthwhile. > > The only thing I expected but didn’t see was any of the lesser White Walkers get taken out by Valerian steel or dragon glass. I guess they really wanted to go with the lost cause until the last moment. > > I liked it. This- that moment was everything and made perfect sense. My only complaint was I guessed it about 60 seconds before it happened but it was still very sweet. I do think Brienne’s story arc is practically done (unless she is going to go off and make baby giants with her pal Tormund, I’m all for that) and she’s the only one that I’m surprised is still alive. Jon has been a lame duck for too long, time for him to step up. Sansa needs to learn to keep her mouth shut but I am rooting for her marriage to Tyrion to survive. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/99 "2019-04-29T03:48:38Z")
After 7-1/2 seasons and 69 episodes of build-up, I felt like the defeat of the Night King was rather anticlimatic. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190/100 "2019-04-29T03:49:46Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Not hot garbage, steronz. Cold garbage in the pot, nine days old. Hot garbage stinks more. I can’t get over how bad that was after the wonderful episode last week. It was hard to watch because it was so dark and the artifacts from the streaming compression dominated every shot. It was boring from an action perspective. The plot repercussions are terrible. I just don’t know where they go from here, at this point I don’t care who sits on the iron throne. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-03-the-long-night-4-28-19-show-discussion/833190.md?page=6)