# Game of Thrones 8.05 "The Bells" 5/12/19 \[Show discussion\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 12, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-05-the-bells-5-12-19-show-discussion/833869 "2019-05-12T22:06:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![gupwalla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90ced4/32.png) [@gupwalla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gupwalla)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-05-the-bells-5-12-19-show-discussion/833869/21 "2019-05-13T02:27:22Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Ugh, lots to take in. > > Did Jamie and Cercei die? Yes, and if we’re taking bets on this episode’s title I’m going with “Last of the Lannisters.” Which would make the final episode may be L—- — —- T————-. ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-05-the-bells-5-12-19-show-discussion/833869/22 "2019-05-13T02:28:05Z")
Oh yeah, and Urine Greyjoy. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-05-the-bells-5-12-19-show-discussion/833869/23 "2019-05-13T02:28:48Z")
Those Targaryen rulers! You never know what you’re gonna get. Another Aegon I or another Maegor. Another Aegon V “the good” or another Aerys “the mad”. ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-05-the-bells-5-12-19-show-discussion/833869/24 "2019-05-13T02:30:26Z")
Sweet Jesus I mean seriously that was fucking over the top insane, but I loved it. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-05-the-bells-5-12-19-show-discussion/833869/25 "2019-05-13T02:30:47Z")
So there was wildfire buried around King’s Landing, but it seemed completely pointless and inconsequential compared to what Dany was doing. Also apparently dragon fire doesn’t melt stone anymore, now it just explodes. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-05-the-bells-5-12-19-show-discussion/833869/26 "2019-05-13T02:32:29Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Accurate? +750k KL residents. While watching, my recurring thought was, “would it kill them to write some dialog?” It’s entirely visuals. Seriously, it’s all grunts and “over here! Keep moving!” and stuff. GOT used to have amazing dialog. They storyboarded this whole ep as camera shots and forgot to let the actors speak to each other. ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-05-the-bells-5-12-19-show-discussion/833869/27 "2019-05-13T02:34:14Z")
Ok, I admit, I was totally 100% wrong. I didn’t think they’d have the balls to do that. Wow. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-05-the-bells-5-12-19-show-discussion/833869/28 "2019-05-13T02:35:41Z")
So my one confusion was how did that many Dothraki survive? ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-05-the-bells-5-12-19-show-discussion/833869/29 "2019-05-13T02:35:47Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > +750k KL residents. > > While watching, my recurring thought was, “would it kill them to write some dialog?” It’s entirely visuals. Seriously, it’s all grunts and “over here! Keep moving!” and stuff. GOT used to have amazing dialog. We had closed captioning on. Lots of background dialogue appeared that was completely inaudible to us. But it was rather derivative. Stuff like “where’s my wife! Help me find my wife!” and “Run Away . . .” Etc. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-05-the-bells-5-12-19-show-discussion/833869/30 "2019-05-13T02:35:56Z")
Looks like Bran is gonna be warging a dragon after all. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-05-the-bells-5-12-19-show-discussion/833869/31 "2019-05-13T02:36:02Z")
Ok last week when I said “Burn them all.”…I didn’t mean ALLLLLL Dany. Jesus, learn the definition of hyperbole. And yes, like someone else said…seeing the wildfire go up was kinda funny. Also…as I’ve said before…“Fuck prophecy.”…unless Cersei is still alive somehow. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-05-the-bells-5-12-19-show-discussion/833869/32 "2019-05-13T02:37:02Z")
I liked this episode, I’m glad they had the balls to go there. Also there was nothing that immediately jumped out as completely stupid like the last couple. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-05-the-bells-5-12-19-show-discussion/833869/33 "2019-05-13T02:37:45Z")
I dunno man, I was bored the entire episode. I wish Jaime had been going to kill Cersei. What’s his arc now? Clegane bowl was lame, especially with the music at the death. Scorpions sure have different effectiveness from episode to episode, eh? Dany going Mad Queen was pretty obvious, but it seems like her destruction of the city was a bit over the top, no? ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-05-the-bells-5-12-19-show-discussion/833869/34 "2019-05-13T02:37:46Z")
Also…uhm…Team Dany for the win? I guess that was a win? Feels good to back the winner. ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-05-the-bells-5-12-19-show-discussion/833869/35 "2019-05-13T02:38:30Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > So there was wildfire buried around King’s Landing, but it seemed completely pointless and inconsequential compared to what Dany was doing. Also apparently dragon fire doesn’t melt stone anymore, now it just explodes. Yeah, for a minute I expected Cersei to set off a wildfire doomsday device, but apparently the boon of the Blackwater and doom of the Sept of Baelor is puny compared to a rampaging dragon. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-05-the-bells-5-12-19-show-discussion/833869/36 "2019-05-13T02:39:25Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > I dunno man, I was bored the entire episode. > > I wish Jaime had been going to kill Cersei. What’s his arc now? Clegane bowl was lame, especially with the music at the death. Scorpions sure have different effectiveness from episode to episode, eh? > > Dany going Mad Queen was pretty obvious, but it seems like her destruction of the city was a bit over the top, no? “Bring me to the Iron Throne!!..well dig it up!! What? Make a new one then!” ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-05-the-bells-5-12-19-show-discussion/833869/37 "2019-05-13T02:39:29Z")
> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > Also…uhm…Team Dany for the win? I guess that was a win? Feels good to back the winner. Cept for Bronn, he backed the winner for no reason now that Jamie is dead and Tyrion probably in serious trouble. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-05-the-bells-5-12-19-show-discussion/833869/38 "2019-05-13T02:39:53Z")
Well Daernerys is her father’s daughter after all.:eek: > [@Gorsnak](#): > > They could be alive. People survive entire castles falling on top of them every day. It’s frustrating that we don’t actually see them die, and I imagine Daernerys will be obsessed with finding Cersei’s body. > [@DigitalC](#): > > So there was wildfire buried around King’s Landing, but it seemed completely pointless and inconsequential compared to what Dany was doing. Also apparently dragon fire doesn’t melt stone anymore, now it just explodes. Yeah, with the wildfire catches I was expecting a Medieval Hiroshima; instead we got a Medieval Dresden. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-05-the-bells-5-12-19-show-discussion/833869/39 "2019-05-13T02:40:36Z")
I don’t normally attack storytelling choices, but Dany’s actions were out of character. I know they were building to this, but it doesn’t make sense to wait for the surrender, hear the surrender and then just decide, “You know I think I’ll just kill so indiscriminately that even my own army retreats from me.” Varys was out of character as well. Very unlike him to leave himself vulnerable to getting snitched on. Old Varys would never have confided in Tyrion unless he knew it was where Tyrion already wanted to go. Cleganebowl delivered though. And I’d bet that actor has the role of Jason in the next Friday the 13th movie sewn up if he wants it. ---
**Author:** ![gupwalla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90ced4/32.png) [@gupwalla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gupwalla)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-05-the-bells-5-12-19-show-discussion/833869/40 "2019-05-13T02:41:16Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > The pale horse was a bit on the nose. I practically said that out loud. “And on a pale horse, Death.” When I saw that little girl with the wooden horse before the start of the battle, I said “Shireen. Oh God.” And I was not wrong. The Red God does like his burned offerings. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-05-the-bells-5-12-19-show-discussion/833869.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-05-the-bells-5-12-19-show-discussion/833869.md?page=3)