# Game of Thrones 8.06 "The Iron Throne" 5/19/2019 Show Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 19, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204 "2019-05-19T21:21:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/261 "2019-05-20T16:33:19Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > But once again, Tarly is just a vassal, not on par with the lords of Dorne, Highgarden, Winterfell, etc… Royce is a Vassal as well. Brienne and Davos as nobodies. We don’t know who the 3 other lords are, but they’re also not the Lords of any of the 7 kingdoms. Even if those people were Karstarks or Florents or whatever, Tarly is at least on an equal footing to them. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/262 "2019-05-20T16:36:07Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > And why was he looking for Drogon? were they going to try to hunt it? I think that was supposed to be sort of a joke, taking place at the “let’s all laugh at the hijinks of the small council” meeting. That’s something that just fell really flat for me. Throughout the series they managed to intertwine drama and comedy with great effect. After the somber events of this episode and nobody really getting a happy ending, trying to lighten the mood was just jarring. ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/263 "2019-05-20T16:38:07Z")
Speaking of Brienne, I guess we’re to assume old man Tarth died sometime in the preceding seasons and we didn’t hear of it? Is she the Lady of Tarth now? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/264 "2019-05-20T16:40:49Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > And again, the war that they’re avoiding now isn’t just against each other: it’s against each other, plus the Unsullied, plus the Dothraki. Maybe everybody is really really keen on not having another war while these two foreign armies are in Westeros. Not only in Westeros but in King’s Landing, still pissed off and _with nothing to lose_. The only kingdom with an semi-intact army was the North. ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/265 "2019-05-20T16:43:16Z")
I got the impression that being embedded in a tree is what gave the three-eyed Raven his immortality. Could be wrong though. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/266 "2019-05-20T16:43:25Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Not only in Westeros but in King’s Landing, still pissed off and _with nothing to lose_. The only kingdom with an semi-intact army was the North. Dorne should have had a fully intact army, they weren’t involved in any battles the entire time. And the Vale would have been more intact than the North. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/267 "2019-05-20T16:45:45Z")
“Please sit, uncle” was a very well-delivered line ---
**Author:** ![eunoia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eunoia/32/97_2.png) [@eunoia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eunoia)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/268 "2019-05-20T16:54:02Z")
> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#): > > I’m still not sure if he secretly wanted The Hand job… Old Tyrion seemed to be back when he asked for wine from his jail cell, so pretty sure he wouldn’t turn down a handjob. > [@alphaboi867](#): > > Any else surprised the writers resisted the urge to make Ayra or Brienne pregnant? I thought both had to be deflowered for a better reason than just declaring a sexuality. I even expected dramatic premature rupture of membranes that was all the fashion in a few Netflix movies last year, so very surprised yes. > [@Ashtura](#): > > Why do they need a master of whisperers or whatever when Bran can go all minority report whenever he needs to? I find the prospects of that kind of creepy BTW. Another new to me entry on the list of things that don’t fit. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/269 "2019-05-20T16:55:56Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > But once again, Tarly is just a vassal, not on par with the lords of Dorne, Highgarden, Winterfell, etc… Weren’t the Tarlys named warden of the south by Cersei in return for betraying Olenna? Granted, everything is up in the air with Cersei dead (and Bronn promised Highgarden), but that point, with no Tyrells, they’re the most powerful family in the Reach. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/270 "2019-05-20T16:59:34Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Not only in Westeros but in King’s Landing, still pissed off and _with nothing to lose_. The only kingdom with an semi-intact army was the North. Not sure where you get that idea, the northern army has taken the most casualties out of anyone. From the red wedding, to the battle of the bastards which was basically north on north to the battle of winterfell, they should have had almost nothing left. Dorne should be the strongest remaining kingdom, the North damn near the bottom. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/271 "2019-05-20T16:59:44Z")
George R.R. Martin said that he wrote Game of Thrones in part because he hated the ending to Lord of the Rings, where once the big bad was dead, peace descended on the land and everyone lived happily ever after. He said, “What about the Orcs? Do they slaughter them?” His point was that power attracts conflict, and there are no clean happy endings - just more politics. So it is ironic that the showrunners gave Game of Thrones a Lord of the Rings ending, complete with a book being presented at the end that purports to be the story we just watched, and with all the games ending and everyone suddenly bowing to the new King while others prepare their ships for leaving the kingdom. Very pat, very Tolkien-ish. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/272 "2019-05-20T17:03:42Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > So it is ironic that the showrunners gave Game of Thrones a Lord of the Rings ending, complete with a book being presented at the end that purports to be the story we just watched, and with all the games ending and everyone suddenly bowing to the new King while others prepare their ships for leaving the kingdom. Very pat, very Tolkien-ish. That’s absolutely the opposite of what I got from the ending. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/273 "2019-05-20T17:04:55Z")
Bronn is a thief and a murderer and has no loyalties or trustworthiness. After his bit before Winterfell I thought they would find a way for Jamie or Tyrion to get rid of him. ---
**Author:** ![Telperion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telperion/32/509_2.png) [@Telperion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperion)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/274 "2019-05-20T17:05:05Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > So it is ironic that the showrunners gave Game of Thrones a Lord of the Rings ending, complete with a book being presented at the end that purports to be the story we just watched, and with all the games ending and everyone suddenly bowing to the new King while others prepare their ships for leaving the kingdom. Very pat, very Tolkien-ish. On the bright side, I guess they’re a natural fit for Star Wars since they cribbed Dany’s death scene from Force Awakens. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/275 "2019-05-20T17:10:36Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Bronn is a thief and a murderer and has no loyalties or trustworthiness. After his bit before Winterfell I thought they would find a way for Jamie or Tyrion to get rid of him. Yeah. Maaaybe Tyrion pays his debt and gives Bronn Highgarden, but making him Master of Coin makes no sense at all. He’ll definitely embezzle money for himself. Doesn’t bode well for the management of the Six Kingdoms if they’re that bad at appointing advisors. Or maybe that’s Tyrion’s way of getting rid of him. Basically entrap him with a grift he can’t ignore, then execute him when Bran catches him. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/276 "2019-05-20T17:13:54Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Yeah. Maaaybe Tyrion pays his debt and gives Bronn Highgarden, but making him Master of Coin makes no sense at all. He’ll definitely embezzle money for himself. Doesn’t bode well for the management of the Six Kingdoms if they’re that bad at appointing advisors. The show started with Littlefinger as the Master of Coin; Bronn doesn’t strike me as much worse than that. Of course, we saw examples of Bronn shaking his head and stating how awful the job is when Tyrion held that job. So that’s not great. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/277 "2019-05-20T17:16:39Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > The show started with Littlefinger as the Master of Coin; Bronn doesn’t strike me as much worse than that. > > Of course, we saw examples of Bronn shaking his head and stating how awful the job is when Tyrion held that job. So that’s not great. Bronn’s a worse choice in one sense. He’s transparently corrupt so it indicates horrible judgement in picking him. Littlefinger tried to hide his corruption so you could forgive picking him because he hid his tracks enough to appear to be good at the job. Bronn might be better in that he’s probably not good enough to not get caught. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/278 "2019-05-20T17:17:09Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Dorne should have had a fully intact army, they weren’t involved in any battles the entire time. And the Vale would have been more intact than the North. I thought the Dornish Continental Expeditionary Force was wiped out by Euron Greyjoy’s first ambush. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/279 "2019-05-20T17:20:49Z")
> [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > I thought the Dornish Continental Expeditionary Force was wiped out by Euron Greyjoy’s first ambush. Hmm. This may be accurate. Ellaria and the Sand Snakes were on Yara’s ship. Were the rest of the ships all Dornish? Man, Euron was so lame. I wonder what his in show K/D ratio was. Like 200:1? ---
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> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > Same way they always did? Besides the plant we saw says winter is over I’m thinking the lack of human corpses to feed scavengers and carnivores, what with them being reanimated, ended up starving more animals than usual. Those starved animals were then animated from the dead (hello undead polar bear!), creating a vicious cycle and exacerbating the problem since the undead were aggressive and murderous. And those animals that survived until the Night King died still got screwed because all that delicious carrion was exported to Winterfell. This may not be a problem since many Wildlings died traveling South, and then getting caught up in multiple wars where they won by the skin of their teeth. If the remaining Wildling population is small enough, they may not stress the shrunken fauna populations that survived the years long winter. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204.md?page=15)