# Game of Thrones 8.06 "The Iron Throne" 5/19/2019 Show Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 19, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204 "2019-05-19T21:21:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/41 "2019-05-20T02:36:39Z")
> [@A\_Dodgy\_Dude](#): > > With the White Walkers dead and peace made with the Wildlings, what exactly is the Night’s Watch watching for? 😕 I was thinking they might show another white walker alive . I guess they still need the night’s watch to send guys who break laws and for other reasons. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/42 "2019-05-20T02:37:27Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Best part: Sam suggesting that all people get a vote, and everyone laughing at him. Sam: We the people, of the six kingdoms, in order to form a more perfect Westeros… > [@](#): > > Edited a second time: Why would people knowingly choose going to live in the freezing, snowy land north of the wall? How do they even get food there? The Free Folk ain’t bending no knee. So the only place for them to go is north of the wall. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/43 "2019-05-20T02:37:43Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > Well, rumors that Bran would be king turned out to be true. I was curious about the Night’s Watch (note, the Lord Commander is elected – not sure if Jon was reelected or not. Glad we saw Tormund and Ghost) > Arya sailing off to the west is cool, if not really what I pictured for her. > And everyone was just “Ok, the North can be independent” without a peep > Can Sam be Grand Maester and Lord Tarly? > > But all in all a decent ending IMHO. GRRM said the ending is “bittersweet” and I guess this qualifies. > > Brian I don’t think Jon is coming back…at least he isn’t in my head canon. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/44 "2019-05-20T02:38:08Z")
Anyone notice that Podrick got knighted? (Someone, I think Brienne, introduced him as Ser Podrick.) And can someone list everyone who sat at the meeting in which they selected Bran as king? ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/45 "2019-05-20T02:38:24Z")
The season sucked, but at least Westeros is in good hands. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/46 "2019-05-20T02:38:36Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > My predictions remain basically this(most of my original predictions are fulfilled or destroyed now): > > 1. Jon kills Dany in a very dramatic scene. Like, says he loves her, but stabs her through or something. I have no idea what would happen to the dragon at this point. > > 2. Jon is encouraged to take the throne, but abandons westeros to go north. Maybe even meets up with Ghost and Tormund. > > 3. Sansa takes the throne with Tyrion as her hand(and possibly husband???) > > 4. No Azor Ahai prophecy resolution given to us, which is insane, but I cynically think is the case. Very good! Brian ---
**Author:** ![Hellestal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3ab097/32.png) [@Hellestal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hellestal)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/47 "2019-05-20T02:39:28Z")
Braaaaaaaaaan? What a _terrible_ choice when I have “Gendry” written near the top of the prediction sheet I filled out before this season started. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/48 "2019-05-20T02:39:32Z")
1. Did Jon really join the Night Watch, or did he and Tormund go further North with the wildings and that is the ending? 2. Who is Azor Ahai??? No one? > [@asterion](#): > > I can’t help but think that if the books actually ever get published to give exactly the same ending it will still be better executed. Yes, I think a couple 700+ pages books will make much of this seem better. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/49 "2019-05-20T02:40:15Z")
Did I miss it or did the Dothraki not get their own happy ending like all the other groups? Are they just roaming the Westeros countryside? (The unsullied apparently settled some remote island.) ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/50 "2019-05-20T02:40:43Z")
my son said the others at the meeting were probably the grown up Lord of the vale and prince of Dorne. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/51 "2019-05-20T02:41:38Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Anyone notice that Podrick got knighted? (Someone, I think Brienne, introduced him as Ser Podrick.) And can someone list everyone who sat at the meeting in which they selected Bran as king? The ones I recognized were Sansa, Bran, Arya, Davos, Brienne, Sam, Gendry, Edmure Tully, Robin Arryn, Yohn Royce, Yara Greyjoy, some dude clearly dressed like he came from Dorne and a couple randos. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/52 "2019-05-20T02:41:48Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > Don’t hold your breath for those books. My theory is that Martin realized a few years ago that publishing the books before the series ended would be equivalent to what Jon did to Dany. No possible force could keep the resolution a secret. The Battle of the Spoilers would decimate entire continents. He had no choice but to delay the books until after the last episode and then use them to fill in all the context and nuance that the show lacked. He now can work on them, publishing the finale to acclaim and another few million dollars. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/53 "2019-05-20T02:42:32Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > I was thinking they might show another white walker alive . I guess they still need the night’s watch to send guys who break laws and for other reasons. That’s what Tyrion said. A place for bastards and ne’er-do-wells. But he didn’t say ‘ne’er-do-wells’. Someone will remember the quote better than I can. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/54 "2019-05-20T02:42:44Z")
unsullied went to Naath which is where Missandei is from , I guess to bury her ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/55 "2019-05-20T02:42:59Z")
Meh. I’m glad Jon was the one to kill Daernerys. After 8 seasons of battling over who gets to be king, the actual decision was a 5 minute scene with an unexpected and basically unsupported ending. Ends up feeling kind of arbitrary. The final scene with the night’s watch escorting (?) the wildlings back to their home seems arbitrary and not at all the sort of powerful final scene you’d expect. What’s even the point of the Night’s Watch? Were the Wildling forced to settle back north of the wall, or did they choose to? Are the Night’s Watch going to treat them like hostile invaders again? Did winter come? It’s unclear. There are hints that the Night King brought the winter, to a degree, and then it snowed in King’s landing, so we could have the visual of the snowy throne room from the prophecy, but then a few weeks later it looks warm again. No indication that we’re in for a big continent-wide superwinter, and if we are, it’s pretty dickish to force the wildlings back up north of the wall. Bronn getting everything he wanted feels too fanservicey. In reality, he would’ve been murdered like 19 times by now, not given one of the most powerful kingdoms. Our favorite characters ending up on the small council, with Sam being grand maester, also feels a bit fanservicey. Although Davos and Brienne seem more plausible. There wasn’t too much to like there. The whole thing after Dany’s death is very perfunctory. It ends up being like a half-hour epilogue to tell us what happened with the whole story. I feel like at the very least the epilogue could’ve been a whole episode, but story compression is the theme of this season. I’m kinda glad it’s over, to be honest. I didn’t want it to sink much further. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/56 "2019-05-20T02:43:45Z")
Episode Title revealed: **The Iron Throne** ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/57 "2019-05-20T02:44:19Z")
Yes, I also half thought there would be another white walker or something (only this, time, I think the powers that be would believe) Brian ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/58 "2019-05-20T02:44:31Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > That’s what Tyrion said. A place for bastards and ne’er-do-wells. But he didn’t say ‘ne’er-do-wells’. Someone will remember the quote better than I can. Bastards and third sons. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/59 "2019-05-20T02:45:16Z")
I don’t think the Unsullied would have captured Jon, they would just have stabbed him repeatedly when they found out he killed Dany. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204/60 "2019-05-20T02:45:36Z")
When Jon asks what about how will other people feel about her knowing the right way, and Dany says they will not get a choice, I knew it was then or never. > [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > the bigger one was Brienne filling in Jaime’s entry in the White Book. Indeed… you could tell, when she sees those two little paragraphs, and then she picks up the quill. She fills out his story to have it recorded with honor. And then of course Tyrion gets told _he’s_ nowhere in the book. Maybe that was worked out with Grey Worm as his “justice”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204.md?page=4)