# Game of Thrones 8.06 "The Iron Throne" 5/19/2019 Show Discussion

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**Created:** [May 19, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-8-06-the-iron-throne-5-19-2019-show-discussion/834204 "2019-05-19T21:21:26Z")\
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> [@Declan](#):
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> I would say that Bronn is the true winner in the whole series, getting a castle and a position that he had no business even thinking about.

Bronn got _two_ properties, Highgarden and someplace else.

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> It’s not a problem that there’s a gap in the wall, since there’s no danger north of there.

Which brings back the question of why keep the Night’s Watch. Purely as a penal colony for people too inconvenient to execute?

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> [@asterion](#):
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> There’s a massive gap in the wall. Unless Bran knows how to fix it, the best they can do is put up some fortifications and spend the rest of however long they feel like it trying to defend the weak point.

Defend against what?

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Martin working on prequel series

[https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/17/information-on-upcoming-game-of-thrones-prequel-series.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/17/information-on-upcoming-game-of-thrones-prequel-series.html)

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Bronn got _two_ properties, Highgarden and someplace else.

I don’t think so. They said he was lord of the Reach, which is just the area that Highgarden is. It’s like Sansa being ruler of Winterfell and the North.

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> It’s not a problem that there’s a gap in the wall, since there’s no danger north of there.
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> And Drogon didn’t even try to torch Jon, even though he knew that she was dead. Was that meant to imply that he recognized what Jon did was right? Or did he not torch Jon as he’s a Targaryen?

My interpretation of that was Drogon thought her obsession over this throne was stupid and he melted it down because it is a dumb petty human thing that shouldn’t exist.

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Anyone with better nautical knowledge have any idea what that ship was supposed to be? Anything less capable than a caravel is probably going to end up with a dead Arya and crew if they don’t get lucky spotting land here and there.

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I didn’t understand why Jon seemed reluctant to go to The Wall. It’s not like he wanted to be king of any realms, The North or otherwise. Kingsguard doesn’t seem his style at all. My son postulates that he wanted to be punished and going up north wasn’t any punishment at all.

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Bronn got _two_ properties, Highgarden and someplace else.

Since we saw Edmure at the big meeting, I’d guess he’s repossessed Riverrun, which was the other property.

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Defend against what?

Nobody watching the show knows. Why say that Jon was being sent back to the Night’s Watch, instead of just being, say, exiled north of the wall?

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> I didn’t understand why Jon seemed reluctant to go to The Wall. It’s not like he wanted to be king of any realms, The North or otherwise. Kingsguard doesn’t seem his style at all. My son postulates that he wanted to be punished and going up north wasn’t any punishment at all.

It’s a shitty all male prison in a frigid waste land and they execute you if you leave. Plus he doesn’t believe in the mission anymore. Why wouldn’t he hate going there?

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Uggghhhhjhh.  
That’s the sound I made several times during this episode.

At least it’s over.

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nobody has mentioned how all those people that picked Brandon got to King’s Landing so fast 🙂

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> I didn’t understand why Jon seemed reluctant to go to The Wall. It’s not like he wanted to be king of any realms, The North or otherwise. Kingsguard doesn’t seem his style at all. My son postulates that he wanted to be punished and going up north wasn’t any punishment at all.

He had to say goodbye to everyone he loved. He was depressed enough over killing Dany, losing the rest of his family had to hurt.

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> nobody has mentioned how all those people that picked Brandon got to King’s Landing so fast 🙂

They at least handwaved that with a mention of weeks passing and Jon and Tyrion’s beards getting unkempt.

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> nobody has mentioned how all those people that picked Brandon got to King’s Landing so fast 🙂

I thought the same thing, but the dialog and beard growth made it clear that it was several weeks after Jon killed Dany.

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Sam: Maybe we should let the people choose their own leader?

Group: Ha ha, dumb Sam, sit down.

Group: We choose Bran and since he can not have any heirs, when he’s gone, we will let the people choose their own leader!

Sam: (son of a bitch)

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> nobody has mentioned how all those people that picked Brandon got to King’s Landing so fast 🙂

We’re explicitly told it had been weeks since the death of Daenerys, Jon’s beard growth, etc. It’s essentially structured like an epilogue. Most other instances of time passing are handled much more carelessly, and sometimes in a nonsensical/contradictory manner, like Cersei’s pregnancy.

> [@Hampshire](#):
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> Sam: Maybe we should let the people choose their own leader?
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> Group: Ha ha, dumb Sam, sit down.
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> Group: We choose Bran and since he can not have any heirs, when he’s gone, we will let the people choose their own leader!
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> Sam: (son of a bitch)

The contradiction you see isn’t there - the lords and ladies of Westeros will choose the new king, not the common people. Same thing they’re doing there that day.

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> [@Hampshire](#):
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> Sam: Maybe we should let the people choose their own leader?
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> Group: Ha ha, dumb Sam, sit down.
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> Group: We choose Bran and since he can not have any heirs, when he’s gone, we will let the people choose their own leader!
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> Sam: (son of a bitch)

Not the people, a council of nobles.

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> Group: We choose Bran and since he can not have any heirs, when he’s gone, we will let the people choose their own leader!

No, they said that the heads of the noble families together will choose the king in the future.

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