# Game of Thrones, A Golden Crown, 5/22/11

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 22, 2011, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824 "2011-05-22T22:54:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/281 "2011-05-27T16:05:33Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> Except it is, because it comes from the episode after the one this thread is about.

Since I haven’t seen the episode after this, this statement confused me. I double-checked anyway. The scene is in “A Golden Crown.”

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/282 "2011-05-27T16:20:15Z")

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When people are worrying that a fucking t-shirt that mentions a throw away line is a fucking spoiler you know things are getting stupidly ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/283 "2011-05-27T16:21:47Z")

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I think it’s faux outrage, mocking people who are concerned about actual spoilers. AND FOR FUCKS SAKE DO YOU GUYS NEED TO PISS ALL OVER THIS THREAD TOO? Shut up already.

It amazes me how childishly indignant a whole lot of people on this board get about spoilers, mostly on the “I’LL SAY WHAT I WANT!!!” side of things.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/284 "2011-05-27T18:30:17Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Throwaway line about having had a women in each one of the 8 Kingdoms.

Ah, yes. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/285 "2011-05-27T18:57:11Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Hey, I saw the Mythbusters on hot coal walking. You cannot pick up a coal in your hand, hold it and not get burned but you can certainly walk on them without getting burned. It’s got nothing to do with whether or not you believe you will be burned.  
> Yay me! I started another silly argument!

I think what a lot of people are forgetting is that there _is_ magic and supernatural elements in the world. It’s so rare that it doesn’t affect the lives of most everyone in the land. It’s so rare that even people who should know better make fun of it (for instance, the Others north of the Wall) because they’ve seen no evidence of its existence. But it’s there. So the fact that Dany not getting burned wouldn’t have happened in our world has little bearing on what happens in her world.

All that aside, Dany isn’t the Last Dragon.

It’s

LEROY Green!And not, as previously assumed, Sho’nuff

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/286 "2011-05-27T23:10:05Z")

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I was really happy to see that the dancing master’s “there is only one god” didn’t go the way I thought it was going. I thought he was going to do a Number Six.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/287 "2011-05-27T23:12:33Z")

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Such a great line too, perfect for Syrio.

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**Author:** ![jellyblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@jellyblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jellyblue)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/288 "2011-05-27T23:52:56Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Such a great line too, perfect for Syrio.

It really was. It’s been creeping into my head all week: “Not today.” 🙂

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/289 "2011-05-28T03:33:14Z")

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The tagline in the ad for the shirt is “For the man who knows the lay of the land” :smack: 😛

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/290 "2011-05-28T08:35:21Z")

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> [@Tixenfleaz](#):
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> Hell, IIRC Rome got cancelled because it was too costly, and this show’s budget looks considerably more expensive.

As per multiple articles before the show debuted, Game of Thrones has half the budget of Rome. (IIRC, $50 million compared to Rome’s $100 million.) The major difference is that they pretty much built a city for Rome, while Game of Thrones looks largely CGI.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/291 "2011-05-28T13:34:24Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> All that aside, Dany isn’t the Last Dragon.
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> It’s
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> LEROY Green!And not, as previously assumed, Sho’nuff
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> Last edited by twickster; Yesterday at 02:55 PM. Reason: added a spoiler box

Heh. The first part wasn’t a spoiler. Actually…none of that was a spoiler. It was a joke from here:

> **[The Last Dragon (1985) ⭐ 6.8 | Action, Comedy, Drama](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089461/)**
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> 1h 49m | PG-13

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/292 "2011-05-28T16:01:35Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> Heh. The first part wasn’t a spoiler. Actually…none of that was a spoiler. It was a joke from here:
> 
> [The Last Dragon (1985) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089461/)

I got it. In fact, when Dany said it, I turned to my husband and said, “Sho’Nuf!”

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/293 "2011-05-28T17:04:44Z")

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Not sure if anyone already answered this, but why did Danny put the dragon egg on those embers?

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/294 "2011-05-28T17:36:18Z")

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I don’t think it was actually mentioned on the show. See PM, just in case.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/295 "2011-05-28T17:45:24Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Not sure if anyone already answered this, but why did Danny put the dragon egg on those embers?

She has been eyeing those eggs and the fire ever since she got them. There has been nothing that explicitly reveals what she’s thinking, but my guess is that she’s wondering if she might be able to hatch them.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/296 "2011-05-28T17:51:43Z")

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The significance of heating the eggs will be explained later. I won’t spoil anything, but I can at least reassure that you haven’t missed anything.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/297 "2011-05-28T17:54:15Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> Heh. The first part wasn’t a spoiler. Actually…none of that was a spoiler. It was a joke from here:
> 
> [The Last Dragon (1985) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089461/)

Okay, people, I’ve already said I haven’t read the books or seen the TV show – and though **Gukumatz** is helping with these threads, I don’t want to bug him every five minutes.

I’m going to continue to err on the side of too many spoiler boxes – if they’re not needed, no biggie, but if they are, someone’s gonna get pissed off.

**twickster** , who can’t wait until this show has finished its run, but is already dreading its release on DVD.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/298 "2011-05-28T18:28:06Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> She has been eyeing those eggs and the fire ever since she got them. There has been nothing that explicitly reveals what she’s thinking, but my guess is that she’s wondering if she might be able to hatch them.

That was my guess, but it wasn’t even clear if they were viable.

> [@DtC](#):
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> The significance of heating the eggs will be explained later. I won’t spoil anything, but I can at least reassure that you haven’t missed anything.

OK. Sometimes it’s hard to tell in this series.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/299 "2011-05-29T23:37:53Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> She has been eyeing those eggs and the fire ever since she got them. There has been nothing that explicitly reveals what she’s thinking, but my guess is that she’s wondering if she might be able to hatch them.

Yeah, an a non book-reader, it seems to me that since she is apparently the “last dragon” she has some sort of innate instinct to hatch those eggs.

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**Author:** ![Caiata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e56c9b/32.png) [@Caiata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caiata)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/300 "2011-05-30T01:27:14Z")

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> [@Lantern](#):
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> As for the parentage reveal, \<snip\> … I am curious as to when the newbies figured it out.

For me, it happened during this episode, but before Ned figured it out. When Joffrey came to apologise to Sansa and said he’d never be mean to her again (or something like that), I turned to my has-read-the-books boyfriend and said “Pssh. He’s half Lannister, he’ll never keep _that_ promise. Oh wait! The blonde hair! He’s FULL Lannister isn’t he?! Poor Sansa.”

And now, “full Lannister” is our new slang for “total dick”. 🙂

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