# Game of Thrones, A Golden Crown, 5/22/11 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 22, 2011, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824 "2011-05-22T22:54:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/61 "2011-05-23T18:44:22Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > … the ruler, or her heir-apparent, … [nitpick]Robert is the ruler; Lysa is his regent.[/nitpick] ---
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/62 "2011-05-23T18:46:05Z")
> [@gonzoron](#): > > I almost forgot to mention: Mord is teh awesome.. Yes, Mord was terrific and that conversation between him and Tyrion was priceless “Sometimes, possession is an abstract concept” ---
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/63 "2011-05-23T18:49:40Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > So, if the dragon eggs are so valuable, why were they left completely unguarded so that what’s-his-name could just waltz in and steal them? Let me put it this way. Knowing what you know about the Khal, would you steal his wife’s stuff even if it was unguarded?😃 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/64 "2011-05-23T18:50:55Z")
Heh. I loved Tyrion’s pained expression as he realized that he’d have to dumb down his usual method of speaking - way, _way_ down - in order to get through to Mord. At this time, do we know who’s next in line to claim the Vale if something were to happen to Robin/Robert and his mom? It wouldn’t be Cat, would it? ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/65 "2011-05-23T18:52:49Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > [nitpick]Robert is the ruler; Lysa is his regent.[/nitpick] Keep that book stuff out of here. It’s “Robin”. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/66 "2011-05-23T18:53:55Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Keep that book stuff out of here. It’s “Robin”. > > -Joe Is it really? Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/67 "2011-05-23T18:54:44Z")
After watching the episode again i gotta say i am impressed in the job they did uglying up the gorgeous Natalia Tena to play a wilding. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/68 "2011-05-23T18:55:39Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Mormont seemed to be keeping a good eye on them. It seemed to me that he just happened to wonder in at the appropriate time. No one should be allowed to even get near the eggs. Blondie had them stashed away and was ready to go. BTW, am I the only one who’s glad he’s gone? I found his character not only irritating, but hard to believe. Scrawny little whiner who can’t seem to plan his way out of a paper bag. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/69 "2011-05-23T18:57:23Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > BTW, am I the only one who’s glad he’s gone? I found his character not only irritating, but hard to believe. Scrawny little whiner who can’t seem to plan his way out of a paper bag. Those who had read the books and saw the title of this episode knew what was coming - and I don’t think anyone was going to exactly be sad about it. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/70 "2011-05-23T18:57:27Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > At this time, do we know who’s next in line to claim the Vale if something were to happen to Robin/Robert and his mom? It wouldn’t be Cat, would it? We do not. It would have to be some Arryn; Lysa has no rights of her own that Cat could inherit. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/71 "2011-05-23T19:04:25Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > We do not. It would have to be some Arryn; Lysa has no rights of her own that Cat could inherit. Thanks. I’ll ask in the spoiler-laden thread, too. ---
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/72 "2011-05-23T19:12:21Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > BTW, am I the only one who’s glad he’s gone? I found his character not only irritating, but hard to believe. Scrawny little whiner who can’t seem to plan his way out of a paper bag. The character is obviously meant to be intensely unlikeable but I don’t think he is unrealistic. He is pretty much what you would expect if you put a very privileged child through intense humiliation and hardship. His background has given him enormous ambitions but he doesn’t have the skills to match, skills that he would have normally learnt from older males in his family and court. The show does a good job of showing all the small ways in which aristrocratic boys learn how to lead: that wonderful scene between Ned and Bran at the execution, the lessons taught by the maester and so on. Visersys learnt none of that. Joffrey has also gotten the short end of the stick because his father completely ignores him but he has been schooled in a certain amount of cunning by his mother. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/73 "2011-05-23T19:49:14Z")
Well said, **Lantern**. I agree. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/74 "2011-05-23T19:52:18Z")
Except that such a person would have been deposed by a more ambitions relative or general or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/75 "2011-05-23T19:56:22Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Except that such a person would have been deposed by a more ambitions relative or general or whatever. Yeah, his name was Khal Drogo. His father’s was named Robert Baratheon. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/76 "2011-05-23T19:56:29Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Except that such a person would have been deposed by a more ambitions relative or general or whatever. His “last dragon” rants seem to imply that they’re all dead. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/77 "2011-05-23T20:02:40Z")
With their gold belts, hulking muscles, and much ballyhooed undefeated status the Dothraki are like the Mongol Horde as imagined by Vince McMahon, and I am endlessly entertained with their antics for it. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/78 "2011-05-23T20:10:19Z")
> [@drastic\_quench](#): > > With their gold belts, hulking muscles, and much ballyhooed undefeated status the Dothraki are like the Mongol Horde as imagined by Vince McMahon, and I am endlessly entertained with their antics for it. If anyone in Westeros invents ‘a chair that folds’ everyone is in for a world of hurt. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/79 "2011-05-23T22:05:10Z")
One question about something Khal Drogo said, although since I also saw the seventh episode this morning via the HBO Go service, this might have been from there, so I’ll spoiler-box this: Khal Drogo said something about wooden horses that cross the sea (i.e., ships) but did he also say something about wooden horses crossing the sky (i.e., planes)? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-a-golden-crown-5-22-11/582824/80 "2011-05-23T22:26:45Z")
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