# Game of Thrones: Predictions from non-book-readers? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 17, 2011, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-predictions-from-non-book-readers/585776 "2011-06-17T01:49:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-predictions-from-non-book-readers/585776/21 "2011-06-19T23:31:19Z")
Those dragon eggs are a Chekov’s Gun if I’ve ever seen one. They’re gonna hatch at some point in the future but probably not tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-predictions-from-non-book-readers/585776/22 "2011-06-20T00:39:55Z")
One possibility that I have considered is that Anya slips her protector, and knowing Joffrey is responsible for her father’s death, sneaks into Joffrey’s quarters and challenges him to a duel. Joffrey, being larger and more male, thinks it’ll be fun to kill her so agrees to it, and not knowing her Dancing lessons, gets skewered big time. Hopefully Anya escapes subsequently, but we’ll see. I do see her as an agent of revenge down the road, but it might not be Joffrey that faces her sword. Might be Cersei. Tyrion could be a wild card, he seems to have a talent for survival. Might wind up on the Iron Throne, wouldn’t be surprised, a functioning brain seems to be rare in the Seven Kingdoms. He’s decent like Ned, but not nearly so dumb and trusting. Jon seems to be Ned Mark II to me. I predict a tragic death defending the Wall against whatever it is out there. I’m thinking maybe the Dragons might be a trump card against whatever is out there beyond the Wall, much later in the series however. The Wildling woman now enslaved might turn out to be a key player down the road, in dealing with Wildings who might find themselves allied with the rest of the human race if the Night Walkers are as badass as the hints indicate. I doubt Khal will die, he and Daenerys have too much potential to drive the plot with an invasion of Westeros, and of course there are those eggs. I can’t see a promising future for Cersei or Joffrey. He’s a total idiot kid and he holds absolute power. Killing Ned, he signed his own death warrant, as all the other Machiavellian types around the throne are going to figure he’s too much a wild card to let live. He won’t live, and Cersei will probably go with him. Could happen in this episode, by Anya or another. No one’s gonna want to hear Joffrey impulsively ordering THEM killed. There, we’ll see how it goes. I’m hoping I will be surprised, and Martin seems a good enough writer to surprise me. ---
**Author:** ![porcupine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac91a4/32.png) [@porcupine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/porcupine)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-predictions-from-non-book-readers/585776/23 "2011-06-20T00:54:48Z")
I want something to happen with the dragon eggs. I started reading the first book and am about 300 pages in (which is about 1/3 of the way). ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-predictions-from-non-book-readers/585776/24 "2011-06-20T02:01:55Z")
Well only one of my predictions got definitely DISPROVED, and it wasn’t the one I thought it would be, the others while not proven are still possible. Not bad all told. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-predictions-from-non-book-readers/585776/25 "2011-06-20T02:02:19Z")
I just want to note that I [predicted](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13845642&postcount=55) that ending. (And, no, I’ve never read the books.) ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-predictions-from-non-book-readers/585776/26 "2011-06-20T03:29:15Z")
> [@Evil\_Captor](#): > > Well only one of my predictions got definitely DISPROVED, and it wasn’t the one I thought it would be, the others while not proven are still possible. Not bad all told. I score your future predictions as one yes and one kinda-sorta…but I’ll be damned if I can recall if they’ll come true season 2 or 3 since the books blur together on me there. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-predictions-from-non-book-readers/585776/27 "2011-06-20T03:46:08Z")
Don’t do that. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-predictions-from-non-book-readers/585776/28 "2011-06-20T03:47:14Z")
As a book reader all I can tell you is 1: Don’t become too attached to anybody. 2: Don’t expect the remaining Starks to magically become geniuses ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-predictions-from-non-book-readers/585776/29 "2011-06-20T04:17:18Z")
I’m still not ready for hints or advice from the book-learned in a thread marked for the unforeknowledged. No matter how vague you think you’re being, it’s still spoilery. So I was pretty much wrong on all my points. I should have known that one episode wasn’t enough time to put the storylines that far. The only thing I did assume would happen – and I forgot to even invludd it in my prediction – was the hatching of the dragon eggs. I pretty much figured we would see that from the moment they appeared on screen. ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-predictions-from-non-book-readers/585776/30 "2011-06-20T17:19:22Z")
> [@DMark](#): > > Never read the books and have no idea what happens - I am just along for the ride. > I do hope they move from these dreary surroundings to more mythical lands - ala LOTR - or **at least have some kind of creature(s) appear** - I understand Treebeard is available if they want to hire him on the cheap. The beauty of LOTR is that you get to meet a lot of interesting characters, in wondrous lands, with special abilities. > > Actually it is sort of fun NOT to know what is going to happen. > Keeps the awe alive. > So for all of you who have read the books, please keep those spoilers in spoiler boxes! (Or at least entitle your threads to say “Spoilers Included!”. Well, one part of my prediction came true! Hopefully they hit at least one land that is lush, fields of flowers or maybe a coastal town…again, part of this adventure would be to go to “new” lands to see new environments and wonders. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-predictions-from-non-book-readers/585776/31 "2011-06-20T21:19:46Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > I score your future predictions as one yes and one kinda-sorta…but I’ll be damned if I can recall if they’ll come true season 2 or 3 since the books blur together on me there. **elfkin** , the premise of the thread is that it’s for those who haven’t read the books. Please don’t do this. Some consider it being a jerk. Thanks, **twickster** , Cafe Society moderator ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-predictions-from-non-book-readers/585776/32 "2011-06-21T01:14:25Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > My mid-season prediction has already gone down the tubes - that winter comes, the sea freezes, the horse folk storm across, and rape and pillage everyone (maybe there’s a truce or something to fight the oncoming horde). That’s clearly not going to happen. > > I guess we still have Bran having crow/raven visions. That’s going to have to pay off. He’s clearly not going to be some wise poet king of the north without some semblance of victory to the south, so his brother is going to win…somehow. Either by trickery or chance, because he sure as hell doesn’t have the numbers. > > Anya doesn’t have much going for her. Yeah yeah, they’ve built up her training and Needle and all that shit - but she’s still 4 years old (or whatever) and impulsive. They’re setting this character up for a long 3-season haul, not a one-episode shocker. I forsee nothing dramatic here. > > Sansa will be stuck with Joffrey as well. She’ll become a manipulative bitch at the training of Cersei, and double-cross both her family and Joffrey over the course of the entire series. Everyone will hate her more than Joffrey. > > Jon Snow will end up convincing someone to let him go south briefly to warn everyone that zombies are on their way, but his future is north of the wall. He’ll become a Big Damn Hero, but certainly not in the next episode - probably by the end of season 2. > > Forces will collide, heads will roll, and the realm will be governed by the end of the season by Littlefinger, Varys and Cersei. Joffrey will be imprisoned after a faked sickness or something to get him out of the public spotlight making terrible decisions. Kahl Drogo will survive his black magic ritual somehow and be seen boarding ships right as credits roll. And Imps everywhere will rejoice in ample bosoms and ale. Well, I also should have realized that one hour wouldn’t be enough. I was really surprised how they resolved the Civil War. I know the Lannisters aren’t actually going to tuck their tails and run, but it sure seems that way. I’d think they’d be able to buy off enough neutralish clans/families to make a solid sweep north. (But then they run into the problem of “what now - who’s going to occupy this land?”.) I was right(ish) on my non-prediction for Anya - nothing dramatic happened there. Predictably, she’s headed north, escorted by the guy her dad told to escort her. I’m mostly wrong on Sansa - she’s going to double-cross Joffrey, but her commitment to family looked much more firm than it had in the past. Still - that’s an “end of Season 2” problem at the earliest (depending on when Season 2 picks the story up - it could do a “10 years later” jump). Jon Snow did not want to warn anyone of the zombies. No one, in fact, wants to warn anyone of the zombies. This seems…foolish. I think I’d send word to the south that “hey FYI - dead people are walking around up here trying to kill people.” Maybe that’s just me. Jon will, however, be heading north of the wall, and is sure to become a Big Damn Hero (actually, his direwolf will become a BDH, but he’ll take all the glory). Forces did not collide. Heads did not roll (just a tongue). The realm WILL be governed by Varys, Littlefinger and a Lannister (wrong one, though). Joffrey’s fate is still up in the air, but it seems everyone is with me on this one (imprison/disable the petulant child). I was certainly wrong about the ending - which disappointed me. I don’t want to watch a show about dragons and shit. I want to watch politics being played poorly, clever people making big moves and screwing over tons of people, the noble rush headstrong into doom, and the innocent/pure come of age. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-predictions-from-non-book-readers/585776/33 "2011-06-21T01:20:37Z")
Keep watching the show **Munch** , or rather, watch next season. I don’t think it’s a spoiler to say that it doesn’t suddenly take a crazy left turn and become a totally different type of story. They story is the story, it always had dragons in it; from the very first episode. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-predictions-from-non-book-readers/585776/34 "2011-06-21T01:28:12Z")
So long as the story doesn’t become ABOUT dragons, or they don’t become too much of a deus ex machina. It’s the people and the culture they live in that make the story interesting. And with that, it’s off to Gor Evolved for me … ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-predictions-from-non-book-readers/585776/35 "2011-06-21T01:31:02Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Keep watching the show **Munch** , or rather, watch next season. I don’t think it’s a spoiler to say that it doesn’t suddenly take a crazy left turn and become a totally different type of story. They story is the story, it always had dragons in it; from the very first episode. That’s true - and I’m not about to drop it from my lineup. And it’s not like there wasn’t an element of the supernatural from the first two minutes of the first episode either. ---
**Author:** ![Tarwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@Tarwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarwater)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-predictions-from-non-book-readers/585776/36 "2011-06-21T03:05:46Z")
So my predictions weren’t half bad. **What I saw coming:** Drogo dying. Tension with the wildlings and the white walkers increasing, as seen from Jon’s perspective. I was a little off – I thought we’d see the impending trouble more explicitly – but I was right about it being mentioned, and it being seen by Jon. Robb becoming King of the North. I even got the title right! **What I didn’t see coming:** Dany’s child coming out like a harlequin fetus, or something. Dany entering a burning funeral pyre with the dragon eggs and coming out unscathed, carrying hatched dragonlings. I knew they were going to hatch eventually, but I didn’t predict that it’d be in this episode, or that Dany would birth them like she did. **What came completely out of left field:** Tyrion Lannister becoming The Hand. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-predictions-from-non-book-readers/585776/37 "2011-06-21T03:12:18Z")
Well actually i believe they said “King in the North” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Tarwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@Tarwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarwater)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-predictions-from-non-book-readers/585776/38 "2011-06-21T03:19:28Z")
N-no! ---
**Author:** ![kath94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/67e7ee/32.png) [@kath94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kath94)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-predictions-from-non-book-readers/585776/39 "2011-06-21T17:29:54Z")
I am not a book reader, although I may have to become one. I predict that more and more characters with similar names will be introduced in the next season. I will get even \*\*more \*\*confused by people who mess up the spellings of the character and/or location names, leading me to believe that they’re referring to yet more characters; book readers who add character nicknames that have not been mentioned on TV; references to characters & their relation to one another that either isn’t mentioned in the series or is glossed over so that only a true fan of the book knows who they are. In short, I predict more confusion. :(:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-predictions-from-non-book-readers/585776/40 "2011-06-21T17:33:20Z")
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