# Game of Thrones S3 - open spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 30, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362 "2013-03-30T16:23:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2013, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/21 "2013-03-31T01:44:36Z")
I’m so excited I can hardly stand it. I love love love reading Unsullied expectations. So many of them (non book readers, that is, not Dany’s people) know Robb’s in deep shit for disrespecting the Freys, but I don’t think any of them are going to see the RW coming, or at least not to the extent. I mean, reading it I knew it was bad news when they headed over to it, but I figured Robb would be attacked on his way home or something. And only Robb. I knew something bad was going to happen, but WHAT happened somehow still shocked me. The internet is going to explode in a month and a half. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2013, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/22 "2013-03-31T15:23:10Z")
I wonder what new locations will be added to the intro. I’m guessing Riverrun and Astapor pretty early on (Maybe second episode for both? It’s possible they’ll start at Riverrun in episode 1, but Dany has at least one episode left in Qarth to buy a boat and meat Barristan.) After that…not much. Yunkai in episode 9 or 10, and we’ll get the Twins again, but that’s not entirely new, they were in an episode of season 1. A lot of the other stuff takes place “in-between” places. Bran and co. are in The North, between Winterfell and The Wall, but they’ll probably keep Winterfell for them. Jon and the Wildings, and Sam and The Night’s Watch are all north of the Wall, but if last season is any example, The Wall will be used as a location for them. Maybe Mance’s camp will get it’s own intro, but I doubt it. And then you’ve got Arya bumming around the Riverlands. So they might keep Harrenhall for an episode or two, and then after that I guess Riverun could represent her…but then Jaime and Brienne will end up at Harrenhall for an episode or two. God dammit, someone put me in a medically induced coma for 9 hours! ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2013, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/23 "2013-03-31T15:54:04Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > I better see Robb with a wolf head and Cat thrown naked in the river. I’m worried we won’t see naked Cat in the river. HBO already let me down by not showing the woman with a dead baby screaming “brother fucker” at Cersei during the riot at King’s Landing. > [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > I’m so excited I can hardly stand it. I love love love reading Unsullied expectations. So many of them (non book readers, that is, not Dany’s people) know Robb’s in deep shit for disrespecting the Freys, but I don’t think any of them are going to see the RW coming, or at least not to the extent. I mean, reading it I knew it was bad news when they headed over to it, but I figured Robb would be attacked on his way home or something. And only Robb. I knew something bad was going to happen, but WHAT happened somehow still shocked me. The internet is going to explode in a month and a half. I’m worried because Rob has been a duller character in the TV show than he was in the books. Ned was a far more interesting character when he was killed off. I hope this will change once Rob executes one of his men for treason, which I hope the show covers. I remember liking him a lot more once he did that. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/24 "2013-03-31T19:49:40Z")
Baseball teams vs. GOT houses, funny stuff [http://extramustard.si.com/2013/03/29/a-song-of-ice-and-fire-and-baseball/?sct=hp\_bf1\_a5&eref=sihp](http://extramustard.si.com/2013/03/29/a-song-of-ice-and-fire-and-baseball/?sct=hp_bf1_a5&eref=sihp) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2013, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/25 "2013-03-31T21:19:29Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > No. > > I don’t think we’ll get… Joffrey’s wedding, I hope you’re wrong on this as we need that to offset the Red Wedding. Plus Diana Rigg is playing Grandma Tyrell, so it’ll give her a nice scene. I’m disappointed that they didn’t take Tyrion’s nose; they wouldn’t even have had to green screen it, just give him a Tycho Brahe style silver tip or whatever. But, I suppose Peter Dinklage didn’t want to have a nasal voice for the rest of the series. I can already see Jamie screaming as the blade comes down on his hand as the blackout scene of an episode. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2013, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/26 "2013-03-31T21:58:56Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > I’m so excited I can hardly stand it. I love love love reading Unsullied expectations. So many of them (non book readers, that is, not Dany’s people) know Robb’s in deep shit for disrespecting the Freys, but I don’t think any of them are going to see the RW coming, or at least not to the extent. I mean, reading it I knew it was bad news when they headed over to it, but I figured Robb would be attacked on his way home or something. And only Robb. I knew something bad was going to happen, but WHAT happened somehow still shocked me. The internet is going to explode in a month and a half. Yeah, even after all the awful stuff GRRM had already done to characters up to that point, and how you knew the shit was gonna hit the fan, it was still quite shocking just how utterly fucking awful he was with the Red Wedding. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2013, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/27 "2013-03-31T22:10:20Z")
This season really needs all three weddings. They would make decent bookends or milestones-- Sansa’s near the beginning, the Red Wedding halfway through, and Joffrey’s near the end. The first one needn’t take up much screen time. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2013, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/28 "2013-03-31T23:11:41Z")
Can anyone jog my memory about Joffrey’s wedding chapters in the book – before Little finger revealed what had happened, had there been any specific reference to Sansa’ s wearing the head covering or Lady Oleanna’s helping her with it, or was that all revealed only post hoc? ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2013, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/29 "2013-03-31T23:31:06Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Can anyone jog my memory about Joffrey’s wedding chapters in the book – before Little finger revealed what had happened, had there been any specific reference to Sansa’ s wearing the head covering or Lady Oleanna’s helping her with it, or was that all revealed only post hoc? I remember reading that Dontos gives it to her and Lady Oleanna helps adjust it before the wedding. It was revealed after the wedding that the beads had poison in them. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/30 "2013-04-01T00:06:13Z")
There’s also a prophecy about purple serpents in a maiden’s hair. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/31 "2013-04-01T02:16:31Z")
Oh, right. The “dwarf woman” that Arya ran into just before the Red Wedding when she was with Beric Dondarrion. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/32 "2013-04-01T02:17:31Z")
So was the guy who was in the tent with Mance and Tormund Giantsbane also Lucius Vorenus in Rome? He looked a lot like him. If so, who is that character supposed to be? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/33 "2013-04-01T06:29:44Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > This season really needs all three weddings. They would make decent bookends or milestones-- Sansa’s near the beginning, the Red Wedding halfway through, and Joffrey’s near the end. The first one needn’t take up much screen time. Absofreakinlutely. ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/34 "2013-04-01T10:46:50Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > I remember reading that Dontos gives it to her and Lady Oleanna helps adjust it before the wedding. It was revealed after the wedding that the beads had poison in them. I don’t remember it ever being revealed, sure there’s enough hints scattered throughout the books that we can reasonably assume that it is what happened, but I don’t think we are ever actually told. ---
**Author:** ![MichaelQReilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@MichaelQReilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelQReilly)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/35 "2013-04-01T11:49:50Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > So was the guy who was in the tent with Mance and Tormund Giantsbane also Lucius Vorenus in Rome? He looked a lot like him. If so, who is that character supposed to be? The actor’s name is Ciran Hinds. He was Julius Ceaesar in Rome. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/36 "2013-04-01T11:55:08Z")
> [@MichaelQReilly](#): > > The actor’s name is Ciran Hinds. He was Julius Ceaesar in Rome. That IS Mance Rayder. I’m sure **Drain Bead** is talking about the one that was menacing Jon with the ax. I don’t think it’s anyone important. In the books I believe Val (or Dalla? Which one is Mance married to?) was there too. I don’t think any of the other named wildlings (Styr, Harma Dogshead, the Weeper) have been cast so it’s probably some rando wildling. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/37 "2013-04-01T12:37:22Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > That IS Mance Rayder. I’m sure **Drain Bead** is talking about the one that was menacing Jon with the ax. > > I don’t think it’s anyone important. In the books I believe Val (or Dalla? Which one is Mance married to?) was there too. I don’t think any of the other named wildlings (Styr, Harma Dogshead, the Weeper) have been cast so it’s probably some rando wildling. I was talking about the ax guy. I don’t think he talked, but the camera lingered on him a lot, and he looks a lot like the actor who played Lucius Vorenus. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/38 "2013-04-01T12:48:41Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > That IS Mance Rayder. I’m sure **Drain Bead** is talking about the one that was menacing Jon with the ax. > > I don’t think it’s anyone important. In the books I believe Val (or Dalla? Which one is Mance married to?) was there too. I don’t think any of the other named wildlings (Styr, Harma Dogshead, the Weeper) have been cast so it’s probably some rando wildling. My guess? The Magnar of Thenn. IIRC, he was in the tent in the book. (If Tyrion can have a nose, the Magnar can have ears.). ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/39 "2013-04-01T13:06:45Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > My guess? The Magnar of Thenn. IIRC, he was in the tent in the book. > > (If Tyrion can have a nose, the Magnar can have ears.). Speaking of, that was a GREAT line they added from Cercei about her hearing that Tyrion had lost his nose, but it wasn’t that bad. Nice little nod to the book readers. Overall, I enjoyed it. Better than Season 1’s first episode (because aside from the last minute, was just all slow character intros and mythos building,) but not as good as Season 2, Ep 1. As for the changes from the book, I understand some, but others still bother me. I get that they couldn’t keep Barristan the Bold a secret. It’s not like a book where you can just drop subtle hints like his name, what he looks like, etc…It’s the same actor, and even if they tried to keep it hidden, and didn’t show his scene on the “previously” section, and gave him a bigger beard, etc…, enough people would recognize him, and then they would tell the people who didn’t, and any reveal you try to do after that fact loses it’s impact. So best to get it out of the way early. The manticore was as well done as it could be. They certainly did the “human face” better than I was thinking in my head, which was that the manticore/scorpion’s actual face looked human. Just having a pattern on its tail resemble a face is much better. I also don’t mind that it was changed to a warlock, since no one has ever mentioned the Sorrowful Men in the TV show. But there was no Strong Belwas, and that makes me sad and angry. And can someone remind me who the “person who dies in the prologue” was for Storm of Swords? It didn’t seem like we got them, since no one died in this episode. For both Seasons 1 and 2 they started off with them…sort of. It took until the end of the episode for Season 2, but the Maester was there, and tried to kill Mel, and died. So it seems odd that they would stop doing that. (It wasn’t that Maester-in-Training at Oldtown, was it? (Pate?) That wasn’t until Feast, yeah?) ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/40 "2013-04-01T13:20:59Z")
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