# Game of Thrones S3 - open spoilers **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 30, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362 "2013-03-30T16:23:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/381 "2013-05-02T01:17:15Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > Nice to finally get some boobage (yay Ygritte) after the last several eps having such a lack, but did they have to balance it out with so much damn man ass? Fuck you! More naked Jon Snow! ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/382 "2013-05-02T01:40:40Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > It seems like Dany takes action every other book that she’s in. If the pattern continues we’ll get our badass Dany back for the next book. Yeah. I guess the problem is that Martin can’t let her do her own thing for an entire book without a POV (except for Feast for Crows… because split narrative) because she is such a focal point of the narrative. Lot of her story is waiting around before she can actually strike and disrupt everything else. > [@SecretaryofEvil](#): > > I think most ASOIF fans are far more frustrated by the length of time it took Martin to complete the last two books than by flaws with the books themselves. Agreed. If the last two books had only 2 years of waiting, I think fans would think they weren’t as good as the 1st 3 books, but there wouldn’t be the level of complaining. It’s more, we waited 5 and 6 years for this?! ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/383 "2013-05-02T11:39:21Z")
> [@SecretaryofEvil](#): > > I might poke a bit of fun at Martin for repeating himself or having certain little noticeable quirks to his writing style, but I very much enjoyed ASOIF, even the last two books. My only genuine criticism is that the last two books could have both been trimmed by about 200 pages. . That. Almost nothing happens in the last book. Tyrion wanders around, a prince of Dorne appears, wanders around and dies, Dany roams around in her palace, Theon is kicked around, etc… There are really a minimal number of plot advancing events. “Game of thrones” might end up being one of those rare cases where a filmed adaptation is better than the original book, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/384 "2013-05-02T11:45:55Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > Nice to finally get some boobage (yay Ygritte) after the last several eps having such a lack, but did they have to balance it out with so much damn man ass? Why not? The show isn’t solely intended for male hetero viewers. Anyway, I think there’s way too much gratuitous nudity in this show. I’d rather see events than boobage. I can have as much boobage as I want on the internet, while I’ve only one hour of Game of thrones/week. I’ll take a Tyrell grandma scene over a whore scene any day. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/385 "2013-05-02T14:22:17Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > I can have as much boobage as I want on the internet, while I’ve only one hour of Game of thrones/week. I’ll take a Tyrell grandma scene over a whore scene any day. Just, please, not a grandma Tyrell scene with boobage (no matter how she looked in the 1960’s.) ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/386 "2013-05-02T16:03:30Z")
What are your estimates as to how far we’ll get by the end of this season, when (during this season) major events will happen, etc? Is Robb’s murder this weekend? Will we see Joffrey get offed, or will that not be til next season? Other big events that aren’t coming to my mind? ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/387 "2013-05-02T16:04:49Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > Agreed. If the last two books had only 2 years of waiting, I think fans would think they weren’t as good as the 1st 3 books, but there wouldn’t be the level of complaining. It’s more, we waited 5 and 6 years for this?! I’m very alarmed to read that Martin has estimated the last two books are going to come in at at least 1500 pages _each_. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/388 "2013-05-02T16:05:56Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > What are your estimates as to how far we’ll get by the end of this season, when (during this season) major events will happen, etc? > > Is Robb’s murder this weekend? > > Will we see Joffrey get offed, or will that not be til next season? > > Other big events that aren’t coming to my mind? Episode 9 is called The Rains of Castamere, so that is presumably the Red Wedding. Joffrey’s wedding is probably towards the end of next season. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/389 "2013-05-03T01:58:07Z")
Ooof, just finished the last book. It was like passing a bowling ball towards the end. He desperately needs an editor. I really don’t see him finishing this series before HBO gets to the end of what he’s already written. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2013, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/390 "2013-05-03T02:19:11Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > What are your estimates as to how far we’ll get by the end of this season, when (during this season) major events will happen, etc? > > Is Robb’s murder this weekend? > > Will we see Joffrey get offed, or will that not be til next season? > > Other big events that aren’t coming to my mind? Ygritte’s death this season. Maybe the Hound’s “death.” Tywin, Joffrey, and Lysa next season. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/391 "2013-05-06T03:57:45Z")
Gendry being taken by Melisandre is a switch. I wonder where they’re going with this. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/392 "2013-05-06T04:07:07Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Gendry being taken by Melisandre is a switch. I wonder where they’re going with this. Stand in for Edric Storm, almost certainly. Did Melisandre know who Arya is? If so, I think she’d have taken her for Stannis. As far as them meeting back up, was that a future book spoiler? ---
**Author:** ![SecretaryofEvil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SecretaryofEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecretaryofEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/393 "2013-05-06T17:06:52Z")
I fear I’ve fallen madly in love with Rose Leslie’s Ygritte, which is going to make me hate Jon Snow so much more for abandoning her. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/394 "2013-05-06T17:14:05Z")
> [@SecretaryofEvil](#): > > I fear I’ve fallen madly in love with Rose Leslie’s Ygritte, which is going to make me hate Jon Snow so much more for abandoning her. Well, it’s not like he has much choice. And then it’s not too long before she’s dead anyway. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/395 "2013-05-06T17:15:22Z")
I sure hope Martin didn’t have other plans for Gendry. ---
**Author:** ![Reverse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@Reverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reverse)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/396 "2013-05-06T17:17:50Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > I sure hope Martin didn’t have other plans for Gendry. If he did, the showrunners know about them. ---
**Author:** ![SecretaryofEvil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SecretaryofEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecretaryofEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/397 "2013-05-06T17:22:50Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Well, it’s not like he has much choice. And then it’s not too long before she’s dead anyway. ☹ I’ve already emailed Rose Leslie’s agent inquiring how much it would cost to have her follow me around imitating Jon Snow. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/398 "2013-05-06T18:45:58Z")
From the previews, Gendry learns who his father was next week (courtesy of special guest star Maury Povich as defrocked afternoon maester Morri Vopich). I always assumed that plotline was building to a bigger reveal. I’m guessing he’s somehow going to find his way back to the Brotherhood because I really can’t imagine Martin being finished with him yet, though this being Martin he might be planning to bring on 4 new Baratheon bastards, Tywin Lannister’s clone, and Daenarys’s wetnurse all as major characters in the next book. ---
**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/399 "2013-05-06T19:03:20Z")
> [@SecretaryofEvil](#): > > ☹ I’ve already emailed Rose Leslie’s agent inquiring how much it would cost to have her follow me around imitating Jon Snow. 😃 That was pretty great. As far as him abandoning her, it does happen immediately after she personally slits the throat of an innocent bystander, right? As sad as it is, I like their storyline - it perfectly exemplifies the theme in the books that reasonable, good-hearted peopled wind up having to kill other reasonable, good-hearted people simply because of social, cultural, or geographical circumstances. Regarding Gendry: my unspoiled husband thinks that Gendry and Arya will wind up ruling Westeros together. Which I think shows how influenced he is by common fantasy story tropes, and (given their stories through book 5), how opposed to them Martin is. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2013, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362/400 "2013-05-06T19:59:45Z")
> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#): > > Regarding Gendry: my unspoiled husband thinks that Gendry and Arya will wind up ruling Westeros together. Which I think shows how influenced he is by common fantasy story tropes, and (given their stories through book 5), how opposed to them Martin is. Well, it isn’t completely impossible that they could. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-s3-open-spoilers/654362.md?page=21)