# Game of Thrones Season 2 - OPEN SPOILERS Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 28, 2012, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-2-open-spoilers-discussion-thread/617008 "2012-03-28T01:53:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2012, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-2-open-spoilers-discussion-thread/617008/281 "2012-05-07T08:17:45Z")
I would fall hard for Ygritte, I’ll admit. The riot at King’s Landing needed 100 more extras, and I would have liked the royals to be on horseback and/or litters. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2012, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-2-open-spoilers-discussion-thread/617008/282 "2012-05-07T11:34:46Z")
Tonks! That’s who that is. Thank you, it was driving me nuts. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-2-open-spoilers-discussion-thread/617008/283 "2012-05-07T20:03:43Z")
As I just posted in the no-spoiler thread, I loved the casting of Ygritte. She nailed the part, IMHO, but where was “you know nothing, Jon Snow?” I was waiting the whole episode for it. When did she first say it in the book, anyone remember? They better not cut it entirely. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-2-open-spoilers-discussion-thread/617008/284 "2012-05-07T20:28:32Z")
A bunch of changes from the book this episode… the biggest being the dragon’s being stolen and the Jon/Ygritte interaction (unless I’m forgetting something). But I’m trying to remember how the Arya stuff happened in the book. I don’t remember the business with Amory Loach at all, but I might easily just be forgetting it… is that how it happened in the book? Certainly, it does a good job of addressing one of the more baffling questions, namely, how Arya, generally a sharp kid, failed to have Jaqem kill anyone actually relevant. Overall, I’m absolutely loving this season. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2012, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-2-open-spoilers-discussion-thread/617008/285 "2012-05-07T20:49:56Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > A bunch of changes from the book this episode… the biggest being the dragon’s being stolen and the Jon/Ygritte interaction (unless I’m forgetting something). But I’m trying to remember how the Arya stuff happened in the book. I don’t remember the business with Amory Loach at all, but I might easily just be forgetting it… is that how it happened in the book? Certainly, it does a good job of addressing one of the more baffling questions, namely, how Arya, generally a sharp kid, failed to have Jaqem kill anyone actually relevant. > > Overall, I’m absolutely loving this season. Arya’s first two kills are Weese and Chiswyk (I think…) not the Tickler and Amory Lorch. Lorch is kicked into the Bear pit when Roose Bolton takes Harrenhall. ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-2-open-spoilers-discussion-thread/617008/286 "2012-05-08T00:59:58Z")
Rodrick dies instead of the stable guy. That means they’re not going through the whole Reek-betrays-Theon storyline. I think Bolton’s bastard will just take Winterfell, kill everyone, and capture Theon. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-2-open-spoilers-discussion-thread/617008/287 "2012-05-08T02:07:09Z")
Reek wasn’t even cast for this season. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-2-open-spoilers-discussion-thread/617008/288 "2012-05-08T02:59:23Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Reek wasn’t even cast for this season. Woosh? It’d be the same actor. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-2-open-spoilers-discussion-thread/617008/289 "2012-05-08T03:24:01Z")
> [@drastic\_quench](#): > > Woosh? It’d be the same actor. Yeah, if **Lakai** is right about how they’ll condense the story. But there was another Reek before Theon, a servant of Ramsay’s. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-2-open-spoilers-discussion-thread/617008/290 "2012-05-08T03:27:12Z")
Ah, that’s right. That must have been deleted in my latest mental defrag. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-2-open-spoilers-discussion-thread/617008/291 "2012-05-08T14:23:32Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > Rodrick dies instead of the stable guy. That means they’re not going through the whole Reek-betrays-Theon storyline. I think Bolton’s bastard will just take Winterfell, kill everyone, and capture Theon. Well, we need it to be a bit more complicated than that, right? I don’t see how they can leave out the killing of the fake Bran and Rickon, and for it to really work, it has to be Theon’s decision. I guess they can squeeze it in before Ramsay shows up? ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-2-open-spoilers-discussion-thread/617008/292 "2012-05-08T14:29:24Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > Well, we need it to be a bit more complicated than that, right? I don’t see how they can leave out the killing of the fake Bran and Rickon, and for it to really work, it has to be Theon’s decision. I guess they can squeeze it in before Ramsay shows up? No, that was actually Ramsay, wasn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-2-open-spoilers-discussion-thread/617008/293 "2012-05-08T14:45:52Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > No, that was actually Ramsay, wasn’t it? Ramsay convinces Theon to kill the kids or let Ramsay do it. I don’t think we’re told who the actual murderer is. So it’s originally Ramsay’s idea, but Theon goes along with it. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-2-open-spoilers-discussion-thread/617008/294 "2012-05-08T15:40:19Z")
I am actually really enjoying the scenes with Tywin and Arya. It’s such an unlikely interaction but all the scenes work very well. Tywin seems so much more human on TV. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-2-open-spoilers-discussion-thread/617008/295 "2012-05-08T16:00:41Z")
Yeah, Tywin is almost too well done. I’m starting to like him, and that’s just wrong! LOL! ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-2-open-spoilers-discussion-thread/617008/296 "2012-05-08T16:41:37Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > Yeah, Tywin is almost too well done. I’m starting to like him, and that’s just wrong! LOL! Whenever you start to like him, just remember he ordered a dozen (or more?) of his men to rape poor Tysha…though that part of the story was cut out in the TV-verse, so maybe it never happened… ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-2-open-spoilers-discussion-thread/617008/297 "2012-05-08T16:57:34Z")
Exactly. He’s coming off as strong without the cruel. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-2-open-spoilers-discussion-thread/617008/298 "2012-05-08T17:01:01Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > Whenever you start to like him, just remember he ordered a dozen (or more?) of his men to rape poor Tysha…though that part of the story was cut out in the TV-verse, so maybe it never happened… Tyrion told the Tysha story last season. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-2-open-spoilers-discussion-thread/617008/299 "2012-05-08T17:10:23Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Tyrion told the Tysha story last season. I thought they left the rape part of the story out? (though at the time it wasn’t known to be rape, we (and Tyrion) were led to believe she really WAS a prostitute.) Fake edit: Nope, it was in the story…however, the TV audience still just sees Tysha as a prostitute, so I can easily see how they would think, “Man, Tywin ain’t so bad…rough around the edges, but not cruel.” ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-2-open-spoilers-discussion-thread/617008/300 "2012-05-08T17:10:37Z")
> [@drastic\_quench](#): > > Woosh? It’d be the same actor. Reek/Ramsay was not cast for this season. Better? 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-2-open-spoilers-discussion-thread/617008.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-2-open-spoilers-discussion-thread/617008.md?page=16)