# Game of Thrones Season 4: \[Fully And Openly Spoiled - See Sticky\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 2, 2014, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-4-fully-and-openly-spoiled-see-sticky/685175 "2014-04-02T16:18:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-4-fully-and-openly-spoiled-see-sticky/685175/481 "2014-05-22T12:07:15Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > I’m starting to agree with the idea that I think others have suggested in this thread, which is that we’ll meet Lady Stoneheart at the end of the season finale, but in a scene with Brienne and Pod. They’ll be captured by the brotherhood, who will say “pretty fancy armor, came from the direction of King’s Landing, these must be Lannisters”, and Brienne will say “I’m just trying to find Arya and Sansa Stark” and they’ll say “Stark, eh… Lady Stoneheart?” and the camera pans around and there’s ZombieCat and she says, umm, something, cut to credits. I saw a poster announcing season 4 where lady stoneheart is depicted, so it seems a given that she will appear. Hmmm…interesting prediction. But that’s a big change. > [@](#): > > It’s a little less obvious to me (possibly because I haven’t read SoS for a while) what will be going on with the Dany, Sansa, Theon or Bran storylines. Anyone have any predictions? Nothing really important should happen to Dany, Sansa or Theon, as far as I remember. Bran should reach his tree and meet the children of the forest for a satisfying finale. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-4-fully-and-openly-spoiled-see-sticky/685175/482 "2014-05-22T12:36:35Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > I saw a poster announcing season 4 where lady stoneheart is depicted, so it seems a given that she will appear. I don’t think this was an official poster you saw – probably a fan creation. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-4-fully-and-openly-spoiled-see-sticky/685175/483 "2014-05-22T13:46:58Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > Those are fan-made pictures. and terrible ones at that ---
**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-4-fully-and-openly-spoiled-see-sticky/685175/484 "2014-05-22T14:13:09Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > If I remember correctly she was given the choice of her sword or hanging. I think she probably said “sword,” indicating that she chose to kill Jamie. Don’t ask me where, but I read something in which GRRM confirmed this. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-4-fully-and-openly-spoiled-see-sticky/685175/485 "2014-05-22T14:36:31Z")
I can’t wait to see Tyrion’s escape. So far it’s his last great moment. I’ll be quite disappointed if they radically change the basic facts (Tyrion kills Tywin on the toilet and then strangles Shae in Tywin’s bed) ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-4-fully-and-openly-spoiled-see-sticky/685175/486 "2014-05-22T15:46:50Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > I can’t wait to see Tyrion’s escape. So far it’s his last great moment. I’ll be quite disappointed if they radically change the basic facts (Tyrion kills Tywin on the toilet and then strangles Shae in Tywin’s bed) I don’t think the toilet will be there, since we’ve never heard about how Tywin is so rich he shits gold. I suspect it will be basically unchanged otherwise. It’s far too sacred a part of ASoIaF to muck with. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-4-fully-and-openly-spoiled-see-sticky/685175/487 "2014-05-22T16:08:11Z")
We have heard that, and even if we hadn’t that is no reason to change the scene. Someone could easily say it during his funeral. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-4-fully-and-openly-spoiled-see-sticky/685175/488 "2014-05-22T16:54:32Z")
There are only 3 episodes left? I guess they can save a bunch of stuff that’s supposed to happen until next season. Next season should contain much of the boring parts that are left. Martin better get cracking on those last two books! What’ll we have that’s good next season? Cersei’s downfall. That oughta be real good. Also a bunch of stuff in Dorne that no one will give a fuck about because who ever heard of those people, anyway? Plus Arya without the Hound learning how to be a killer while blind. Didn’t really like that at all. Oh, and the long, long, looooooooonnnnngggggg Tyrion-trek through Essos. What am I missing. . . Oh, John snow being a terrible leader and maybe getting killed. Or maybe not getting killed. We don’t know for sure, do we? Speaking of meeting people we don’t know or care about. . . how 'bout those two Esso wanderers making their way to Dany. Think the show will linger on those two just so the important guy can get roasted? Could be. They did introduce The Viper this season just so he can get smoked by The Mountain. I hope they play the fight like in the book. As I remember it, The Viper downs The Mountain and then gets all James-Bond-Villianish by explaining himself and talking smack. And pays for it. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-4-fully-and-openly-spoiled-see-sticky/685175/489 "2014-05-22T17:23:33Z")
I wonder if next season they will introduce Victarion and the dragon horn or whatever it’s called. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-4-fully-and-openly-spoiled-see-sticky/685175/490 "2014-05-22T17:25:56Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > I can’t wait to see Tyrion’s escape. So far it’s his last great moment. I’ll be quite disappointed if they radically change the basic facts (Tyrion kills Tywin on the toilet and then strangles Shae in Tywin’s bed) Odd, I posted that same thing in a Spoiler! thread, and the Unsullied went in paroxysms of frothing anger over the fact I had posted such a huge spoiler. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-4-fully-and-openly-spoiled-see-sticky/685175/491 "2014-05-22T18:02:00Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Odd, I posted that same thing in a Spoiler! thread, and the Unsullied went in paroxysms of frothing anger over the fact I had posted such a huge spoiler. O.K., I’m not getting this post. Perhaps if you explained what a “Spoiler!” thread is. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-4-fully-and-openly-spoiled-see-sticky/685175/492 "2014-05-22T18:09:39Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Odd, I posted that same thing in a Spoiler! thread, and the Unsullied went in paroxysms of frothing anger over the fact I had posted such a huge spoiler. You posted a huge spoiler in a no spoiler thread and then insult the people who complain? how big a dick are you? ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-4-fully-and-openly-spoiled-see-sticky/685175/493 "2014-05-22T18:28:15Z")
I think what he means, although (if any of you haven’t had the pleasure yet) he has a bizarre and belligerent enough position on this issue that I don’t really want to think about it too much, is that he posted a book spoiler in a thread that had TV spoilers, and people told him that, you know, they didn’t want him to do that. Then he started a few threads about it or whatever. It makes him kind of mad and he calls the TV watchers illiterates even though probably more than half have already read the books. oh, and [QUOTE=shantih] Don’t ask me where, but I read something in which GRRM confirmed this. [/QUOTE] > [@](#): > > anyway after he finished reading the chapters, he opened the floor to some discussion about the plot of asoiaf, and some amazing genius girl said: you know my friends and i were debating this pretty heavily in the lobby just today, brienne screams “one word” as she is being hung by lady stoneheart’s men in a feast for crows - what was the word? > > george turned the question on the audience and asked if anyone had figured it out - we shouted all kinds of dumb stuff, “jaime”, “sapphires”, etc. but some other genius in the second row said “sword”! > > george confirmed that the word brienne screamed was “sword”; lady stoneheart gave brienne the choice of either swearing her sword to her or being hung, saying “sword or noose”, and as brienne was being hung she screamed “sword” [http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/Miscon\_Report](http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/Miscon_Report) ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-4-fully-and-openly-spoiled-see-sticky/685175/494 "2014-05-22T18:46:59Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Odd, I posted that same thing in a Spoiler! thread, and the Unsullied went in paroxysms of frothing anger over the fact I had posted such a huge spoiler. What are you trying to say? That people in a no-spoiler thread objected to spoilers? What’s odd about that? Note that the title of this thread includes “fully and openly spoiled.” ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-4-fully-and-openly-spoiled-see-sticky/685175/495 "2014-05-22T20:12:13Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > You posted a huge spoiler in a no spoiler thread and then insult the people who complain? how big a dick are you? It was a thread where Spoilers were explicitly allowed. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-4-fully-and-openly-spoiled-see-sticky/685175/496 "2014-05-22T20:13:27Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > What are you trying to say? That people in a no-spoiler thread objected to spoilers? What’s odd about that? Note that the title of this thread includes “fully and openly spoiled.” It was a thread where Spoilers were explicitly allowed. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-4-fully-and-openly-spoiled-see-sticky/685175/497 "2014-05-22T20:14:56Z")
Nobody knows what to tell you. Spoil whatever you want in here. ---
**Author:** ![SecretaryofEvil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SecretaryofEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecretaryofEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-4-fully-and-openly-spoiled-see-sticky/685175/498 "2014-05-22T20:25:51Z")
Let it go DrDeth. This is like the fourth time we’ve all had to tell you that no one agrees with your behavior regarding this issue. You’re in danger of becoming a one trick pony, and one with a damned bizarre fixation at that. Best case scenario you misunderstood the spoiler guidelines of a thread. Worst case scenario you deliberately dropped a huge spoiler on the unsullied because you have this odd pretentious animosity towards them. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-4-fully-and-openly-spoiled-see-sticky/685175/499 "2014-05-22T20:40:23Z")
> [@SecretaryofEvil](#): > > Let it go DrDeth. This is like the fourth time we’ve all had to tell you that no one agrees with your behavior regarding this issue. > > You’re in danger of becoming a one trick pony, and one with a damned bizarre fixation at that. > > Best case scenario you misunderstood the spoiler guidelines of a thread. Worst case scenario you deliberately dropped a huge spoiler on the unsullied because you have this odd pretentious animosity towards them. Actually several did. But how could I “misunderstand” the “spoiler guidelines” where the guidelines were “Spoilers!” ? Do note that the Title was hanged, etc after i posted. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-4-fully-and-openly-spoiled-see-sticky/685175/500 "2014-05-22T20:49:13Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > It was a thread where Spoilers were explicitly allowed. What is your point? Does it have anything to do with the post of mine that you quoted or am I wasting my time trying to understand you? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-4-fully-and-openly-spoiled-see-sticky/685175.md?page=24) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-season-4-fully-and-openly-spoiled-see-sticky/685175.md?page=26)