# Game of Thrones, The Pointy End, 6/5/11

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 5, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-the-pointy-end-6-5-11/584450 "2011-06-05T22:35:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-the-pointy-end-6-5-11/584450/61 "2011-06-06T22:29:41Z")

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His sword was broken by the Kingsguard who was standing a couple feet away from him, at the ready. I expect, had he reached for a longsword, he’d have had his head taken off just as his fingers touched it.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-the-pointy-end-6-5-11/584450/62 "2011-06-06T22:43:23Z")

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I’m assuming that Syrio didn’t survive his encounter with the last guard. But I do agree that I would have liked to have seen more of him.

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-the-pointy-end-6-5-11/584450/63 "2011-06-06T23:16:12Z")

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If Syrio lives, the next time we see him he should totally be sporting an eyepatch.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-the-pointy-end-6-5-11/584450/64 "2011-06-06T23:16:52Z")

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> [@SecretaryofEvil](#):
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> I wonder if Drogo siding with his wife over his men might come back to bite him in the ass. Doesn’t he know that sexy foreign queens are one of the leading causes of death for great military commanders?

It’s possible I guess.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-the-pointy-end-6-5-11/584450/65 "2011-06-06T23:32:24Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> I thought the most awesome moment was when he unsheathed his knives, said something badass and then threw them away.

I just hated that scene – for one reason. The guy is armed with a dull stick, and still manages to disable several guards in just a few seconds. But he never picks up a real weapon. He is virtually guaranteeing his own death, and even worse, he’s leaving more guards alive to search for Arya later.

That was WAY dumber than all the poor choices Ned made in the last couple episodes.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-the-pointy-end-6-5-11/584450/66 "2011-06-06T23:43:19Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> I just hated that scene – for one reason. The guy is armed with a dull stick, and still manages to disable several guards in just a few seconds. But he never picks up a real weapon. He is virtually guaranteeing his own death, and even worse, he’s leaving more guards alive to search for Arya later.
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> That was WAY dumber than all the poor choices Ned made in the last couple episodes.

The throwing the knives away part was Drogo. That _was_ badass.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-the-pointy-end-6-5-11/584450/67 "2011-06-06T23:46:10Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> The throwing the knives away part was Drogo. That _was_ badass.

Oops, you’re right. I meant that Syrio was the idiot for not grabbing a real sword among the many available.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-the-pointy-end-6-5-11/584450/68 "2011-06-07T00:05:54Z")

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Nobody cares about the living dead coming back to rip people limb from limb and then setting dead family to kill live loved ones? I feel like Osha-- Hey! Bad shit is coming down from the north.

Well, I can’t take Osha too seriously right now either. The way this thing is paced, we won’t be seeing the undead in the middle of town until the end of next season.

Drogo: You are already dead.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-the-pointy-end-6-5-11/584450/69 "2011-06-07T00:06:23Z")

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But then you can’t look all badass facing off a knight with a hilt and 6 inches of wooden sword.

Syrio knows looking badass is half the battle.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-the-pointy-end-6-5-11/584450/70 "2011-06-07T01:41:35Z")

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> [@JSexton](#):
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> His sword was broken by the Kingsguard who was standing a couple feet away from him, at the ready. I expect, had he reached for a longsword, he’d have had his head taken off just as his fingers touched it.

No no, the guy on the internet knows better. Like the guy who thought that HBO screwed up because there were metal sounds from the wooden practice swords…

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-the-pointy-end-6-5-11/584450/71 "2011-06-07T01:45:14Z")

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So we’re going with the theory that it’s easier to fight with a 6" piece of wood than it is to pick up a sword while moving?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-the-pointy-end-6-5-11/584450/72 "2011-06-07T01:47:51Z")

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Syrio had 3 or 4 guys come at him one at a time before his stick broke. Somewhere in there he surely had time to pick up one of their swords. He certainly had plenty of time to banter. 😛

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-the-pointy-end-6-5-11/584450/73 "2011-06-07T01:48:25Z")

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And he was doing just fine with the stick. A thick, strong, hard stick has been an effective weapon for quite a long time.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-the-pointy-end-6-5-11/584450/74 "2011-06-07T01:55:38Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Syrio had 3 or 4 guys come at him one at a time before his stick broke. Somewhere in there he surely had time to pick up one of their swords. He certainly had plenty of time to banter. 😛

Did you see how Syrio fought? those swords would be completely useless to him.

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**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-the-pointy-end-6-5-11/584450/75 "2011-06-07T01:56:13Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> From what I’ve read, the goal is to air season 2 next year, and to basically do a season per year.

I have no idea what time frame the books play out over, but they’ve got a cast full of kids aging normally to deal with. Poor Walt disappeared out of Lost because he insisted on entering puberty like a bat out of hell, while the show’s chronology was about a month per season.

I clearly went to the kitchen for a coke at the wrong time, because I missed monstercock. Geeze, all those 2/3 naked Dothrak dudes, and instead of hung-like-a-horselord, we get Hodor and poison wine death march guy parts out.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-the-pointy-end-6-5-11/584450/76 "2011-06-07T02:02:12Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Did you see how Syrio fought? those swords would be completely useless to him.

No no no. He should have picked up a broadsword. That way we could have a whole other bunch of people whining about how he used a sword that demands a style with which he wasn’t familiar.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-the-pointy-end-6-5-11/584450/77 "2011-06-07T02:04:44Z")

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The kids age in the books too, though, so that’s not such a big deal.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-the-pointy-end-6-5-11/584450/78 "2011-06-07T02:05:31Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> No no no. He should have picked up a broadsword. That way we could have a whole other bunch of people whining about how he used a sword that demands a style with which he wasn’t familiar.
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> -Joe

Honestly, as far as nit picks go this has got to be one of the silliest ones. Almost the very first words out of that characters mouth are that HE DOESN’T FIGHT LIKE THAT.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-the-pointy-end-6-5-11/584450/79 "2011-06-07T02:06:42Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Honestly, as far as nit picks go this has got to be one of the silliest ones. Almost the very first words out of that characters mouth are that HE DOESN’T FIGHT LIKE THAT.

No, what he should have done was picked up a sword from one of the guys laying around there. I’m sure the guy inches away from him wouldn’t have hacked him in half.

Remember kids, whatever happens in the story is just plain wrong. The internet says so!

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-the-pointy-end-6-5-11/584450/80 "2011-06-07T02:16:21Z")

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> [@Annie](#):
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> Geeze, all those 2/3 naked Dothrak dudes, and instead of hung-like-a-horselord, we get Hodor and poison wine death march guy parts out.

I missed the second one \<technically missed the first one, too, but saw his bum\>, but you’re totally right! We have wholly nekkid women running around, ALL hot, and we’re supposed to be happy with Hodor? I want my hung-like-a-horselord!!!

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