# Game of Thrones, Winter is Coming, 4/17/11 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 18, 2011, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming-4-17-11/578781 "2011-04-18T01:17:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming-4-17-11/578781/261 "2011-04-23T06:17:03Z")
> [@MrBerious](#): > > I like T&A but when it’s every other scene and you’re racing through the story I find it a little overdone. I actually expected there to be \*more \*nudity & sex! I kept reading descriptions of the story as “_Lord of the Rings_ with fucking” so I was thinking it would be more along the lines of the recent show _Spartacus_. Compared to that it’s quite chaste. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming-4-17-11/578781/262 "2011-04-23T20:19:45Z")
It seemed to me that the F word did not really fit in , it was like they put it in because it’s HBO. Otherwise I thought it was good. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming-4-17-11/578781/263 "2011-04-23T21:17:07Z")
Remind me who was in the black armor and the lion-shaped helmet with the bobbing visor when the King’s entourage entered Winterfell? ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming-4-17-11/578781/264 "2011-04-23T21:34:49Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Remind me who was in the black armor and the lion-shaped helmet with the bobbing visor when the King’s entourage entered Winterfell? The Hound. ---
**Author:** ![MrBerious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MrBerious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrBerious)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming-4-17-11/578781/265 "2011-04-23T22:11:08Z")
Hmm, if everyone else liked the acting then I was probably just grumpy with everyone explaining carefully who they are and where they’re from. I’ll watch episode 2 with an open mind. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming-4-17-11/578781/266 "2011-04-23T22:13:22Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Remind me who was in the black armor and the lion-shaped helmet with the bobbing visor when the King’s entourage entered Winterfell? Dog-shaped. As **Snarky** noted, it was Sandor Clegane, the Hound. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2011, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming-4-17-11/578781/267 "2011-04-23T22:57:37Z")
> [@MrBerious](#): > > Hmm, if everyone else liked the acting then I was probably just grumpy with everyone explaining carefully who they are and where they’re from. I’ll watch episode 2 with an open mind. What? hell, most people wish they had done exactly that. But they didn’t, at all. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2011, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming-4-17-11/578781/268 "2011-04-24T00:03:45Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > What? hell, most people wish they had done exactly that. But they didn’t, at all. There’s actually been a couple comments along those lines in this thread. For example: > [@gonzoron](#): > > Some of the exposition was a little clunky here and there, (Jaime: “As your brother..” my wife: “thank you!”) but there’s a lot to relay, so I forgive it. and > [@Simplicio](#): > > Course, in TV form, I fear this will lead to a lot of awkward out-of character explanations. For example, from last night (paraphrased, obviously): > > > [@](#): > > > > Lady Stark: John Aryan is dead > > Lord Stark: Oh no! > > Lady Stark: He was like a father to you > > Lord Stark: Umm…yeah, I remember who he was. After all, he was like a father to me. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2011, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming-4-17-11/578781/269 "2011-04-24T00:20:35Z")
I think it’s promising that the reviews say it gets better after the first episode because the first episode was still pretty damn good, even with all the necessecary exposition. I also think it’s a good sign that the hardcore Ice and Fire geeks have only had small complaints. They’re managing to keep fanboys/fangirls basically happy while still being immediately accessible and compelling to n00bs, which is a pretty rare feat. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2011, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming-4-17-11/578781/270 "2011-04-24T00:29:14Z")
I just hope I can start figuring who is who. Reading through this thread, most of the time I have no idea which character goes with which name, so I don’t know who you guys are talking about. I really wish these shows would do a better job of introducing the characters so it’s not such a mystery for so long. A lot of us didn’t read the friggin’ book. Of course, I had the same problem, early on, with _Rome_, and that ended up being my favorite HBO show of them all. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2011, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming-4-17-11/578781/271 "2011-04-24T00:32:41Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I just hope I can start figuring who is who. Reading through this thread, most of the time I have no idea which character goes with which name, so I don’t know who you guys are talking about. I really wish these shows would do a better job of introducing the characters so it’s not such a mystery for so long. A lot of us didn’t read the friggin’ book. > > Of course, I had the same problem, early on, with _Rome_, and that ended up being my favorite HBO show of them all. [http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Game-of-Thrones-Houses-infographic-Westeros-101-f.jpg](http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Game-of-Thrones-Houses-infographic-Westeros-101-f.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2011, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming-4-17-11/578781/272 "2011-04-24T00:45:43Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > [http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Game-of-Thrones-Houses-infographic-Westeros-101-f.jpg](http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Game-of-Thrones-Houses-infographic-Westeros-101-f.jpg) Wow, I knew Jaime Lannister and the Queen were brother and sister, but I didn’t realize they were _twins!_ :eek: Wow, please tell me (not really) she doesn’t get pregnant! ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2011, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming-4-17-11/578781/273 "2011-04-24T00:51:17Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > Wow, I knew Jaime Lannister and the Queen were brother and sister, but I didn’t realize they were _twins!_ :eek: Wow, please tell me (not really) she doesn’t get pregnant! I’m not going to tell you a fucking thing. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2011, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming-4-17-11/578781/274 "2011-04-24T00:53:55Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > [http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Game-of-Thrones-Houses-infographic-Westeros-101-f.jpg](http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Game-of-Thrones-Houses-infographic-Westeros-101-f.jpg) That’s awesome. I know I’ve seen it in a couple of posts, but really, it should be required reading \ for anyone new to the series. Hell, it helped me too. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2011, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming-4-17-11/578781/275 "2011-04-24T00:54:14Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > Wow, I knew Jaime Lannister and the Queen were brother and sister, but I didn’t realize they were _twins!_ :eek: Wow, please tell me (not really) she doesn’t get pregnant! Let’s just say that would be kind of a moot issue by now.. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2011, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming-4-17-11/578781/276 "2011-04-24T00:55:47Z")
I’m happy to note that I wasn’t the only person having problems with understanding the dialogue. Tomorrow my list of things to do includes breaking out the instructions for my amplifier. (I’ve only used two settings: “spacious movie” and “radio”.) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2011, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming-4-17-11/578781/277 "2011-04-24T00:57:46Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > [http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Game-of-Thrones-Houses-infographic-Westeros-101-f.jpg](http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Game-of-Thrones-Houses-infographic-Westeros-101-f.jpg) Well, that helps! Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2011, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming-4-17-11/578781/278 "2011-04-24T01:09:26Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > Wow, I knew Jaime Lannister and the Queen were brother and sister, but I didn’t realize they were _twins!_ :eek: Wow, please tell me (not really) she doesn’t get pregnant! Fucking your sibling is incest, fucking your twin is more like narcissism. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2011, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming-4-17-11/578781/279 "2011-04-24T01:16:14Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > [http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Game-of-Thrones-Houses-infographic-Westeros-101-f.jpg](http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Game-of-Thrones-Houses-infographic-Westeros-101-f.jpg) Chiming in with the thanks for that link. The only three characters I had trouble telling apart were Jon, Robb, and Theon. Now I know that the Orlando Bloom knockoff is Jon, Robb has a clenched jaw, and Theon looks like he’s three sheets to the wind, I’ll have a much easier time telling them apart. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2011, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming-4-17-11/578781/280 "2011-04-24T01:19:57Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Let’s just say that would be kind of a moot issue by now.. I nearly shit myself when I saw what **voltaire** hoped would never happen. I keep forgetting how many twists and surprises there are in these books. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming-4-17-11/578781.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming-4-17-11/578781.md?page=15)