# \[GAME\]The Resistance - Mafia-Like Game **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [October 25, 2014, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-the-resistance-mafia-like-game/702450 "2014-10-25T12:50:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-the-resistance-mafia-like-game/702450/201 "2014-11-11T21:39:22Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > (I’m surprised no one’s agreed with my claim that Mahaloth’s post gave away that he was Spy advising fellow Spy. I’m not sure whether Story’s #77 supports the case for him to be Spy or Town.) I thought my analysis factored that in, but I’ll reiterate: **septimus** ’s catch is right on and makes me strongly suspect **Mahaloth** is a spy. > [@septimus](#): > > Ignoring Mahaloth’s last minute change, there were five Accepts of Terminus’ team – I think there’s a fair chance 3 of those 5 are Spies. If Terminus’ team was clean, and Group A has only 2 Spies, then Group C has 2 spies _including **Hooker** who is thus blowing smoke with his recent post._ Two of those accepts seem pretty reasonable. I’m as confident **Johnny** is not a spy as I am **Mahaloth** is a spy, and he’s on the team. His “approve” makes sense. **sinjin** is on the team, so his “approve” makes sense as well, though his loyalty is ambiguous, IMO. The combination of **TexCat** AND **Storyeller** confuses me. Following the **Johnny** =Resistance, **Mahaloth** =spy train of logic, at least one of **TexCat** and **Storyeller** is a spy. If both spies, **sinjin** is probably the bad apple on the proposed team, and Group C is clean. If only one of the two is a spy, only one spy voted for the mission. **Mahaloth** did a head fake to vote for the mission, but ultimately didn’t. This implies that **sinjin** is Resistance and that Group C has two of three spies. Approving the current team won’t prove either theory on a fail, so the team should be rejected. If it fails, either **Storyteller** or **Mr Shine** is a spy. The next proposed team should be the same one **Terminus** proposed. Maybe **sinjin** gets swapped out for somebody in Group C, but I’d like to see the previous team come up again. If it fails, I would be confident that **sinjin** was the spy. **Storyteller** and **TexCat** should not be on teams until we can determine which is the spy or if both are. If nothing else, **Mahaloth** ’s approval should throw doubt on the current proposal. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-the-resistance-mafia-like-game/702450/202 "2014-11-11T22:43:25Z")
I don’t even blame anyone for suspecting me as spy. It’s kind of a crap shoot. [This game is reminding me of mafia, in the sense I have argued it is mainly luck.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15146837&postcount=31) Only in this game, we get no results from deaths. When one plays this game in person, how does the resistance team make progress? Listening during the spy phase for noises? Otherwise, it’s just a crap shoot. ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2014, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-the-resistance-mafia-like-game/702450/203 "2014-11-11T23:45:24Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > When one plays this game in person, how does the resistance team make progress? Listening during the spy phase for noises? Otherwise, it’s just a crap shoot. It’s shocking how effective turning to the person next to you and flat out asking “Are you a spy?” is. This is vanilla Resistance. Avalon is a variant where there are special roles, the most game changing being Merlin and the Assassin. Merlin knows all the spies, but they don’t know him. In the event of a good guy win, the assassin tries to “kill” Merlin. If he picks the right good guy, evil wins even if they lost three missions. The other variant adds missions that are given out by the leader. I’ve only played with these once, so my memory is sketchy, but they’re things like forcing a player to commit to accepting or rejecting a team publicly before others commit or allowing a non-leader player to look at another player’s allegiance. Both of these add to the information available, which probably helps the good guys more. Also, I find that five players strongly favors the good guys. Six did as well, but less so, IMO. 7 is a sweet spot, I think, while 8 felt like it favored evil. ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-the-resistance-mafia-like-game/702450/204 "2014-11-12T01:28:32Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I heartily endorse this team and have already sent in an Accept PM. It’s not perfect, but I do think Story may be least likely among Group A to be a Spy. (I’m surprised no one’s agreed with my claim that Mahaloth’s post gave away that he was Spy advising fellow Spy. I’m not sure whether Story’s #77 supports the case for him to be Spy or Town.) > > Ignoring Mahaloth’s last minute change, there were five Accepts of Terminus’ team – I think there’s a fair chance 3 of those 5 are Spies. If Terminus’ team was clean, and Group A has only 2 Spies, then Group C has 2 spies _including **Hooker** who is thus blowing smoke with his recent post._ > > If we Reject Mr. Shine’s proposal, we’re faced with likely-Spy Sinjin, followed by suspicious Hooker, ending up with suspect Story anyway. > > _ **Vote Accept!** _ > > My name is Septimus G. Stevens VII, and I approve this message. You appear to be just making stuff up here. There were 4 accepts. Why would the accepts be spies, when you then say Terminus’ team was clean? Is this Opposite Day? When did Sinjin become likely-Spy Sinjin? Can you explain why you are calling her likely-Spy? Septimus is getting a ginormous FOS from me. ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-the-resistance-mafia-like-game/702450/205 "2014-11-12T01:58:19Z")
> [@HookerChemical](#): > > If nothing else, **Mahaloth** ’s approval should throw doubt on the current proposal. At least this much I can agree with. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-the-resistance-mafia-like-game/702450/206 "2014-11-12T04:19:54Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > You appear to be just making stuff up here. > > There were 4 accepts. Why would the accepts be spies, when you then say Terminus’ team was clean? Is this Opposite Day? > > When did Sinjin become likely-Spy Sinjin? Can you explain why you are calling her likely-Spy? > > Septimus is getting a ginormous FOS from me. Mahaloth did a “head fake.” It’s not clear whether his Accept or Reject was the feigned one. In the event that Group A (Tex, Story, Maha) has THREE Spies, both Story’s accept and TexCat’s Accept were Scummy and we should assume Terminus’ team was UNclean. My segue into “If Terminus’ team was clean” was unclear; I should have started a new paragraph. I was suggesting that Hooker’s scenario was unlikely but if true would imply that Group C has TWO Spies, which increases the chance that Hooker is a Spy, so “blowing smoke.” I suppose it’s barely possible that Mr Shine is a Spy, and the six Townies are Terminus’ team + Hooker + Story but that seems VERY far-fetched. I called Sinjin “likely Spy” just to emphasize that Mr Shine seems to me to be the “Towniest” of the possible leaders remaining in this round, and based on the assumption that Scum liked Terminus’ proposal. It’s possible that Terminus is the Spy instead of sinjin, but time is running out – we’ve got to make assumptions. In any case, I’m almost certain that Terminus’ team had at least three Townies. If one of the alternate leaders (Sinjin, Hooker, Story) will commit to proposing a team consisting entirely or almost entirely of the four I find most Townish (Johnny, Terminus, Mr Shine, myself) then I’ll send another changed-my-mind PM to MentalGuy and wait for that proposal. If not, I think the present proposal may be our best hope now, even though I’m only lukewarm on Story. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-the-resistance-mafia-like-game/702450/207 "2014-11-12T04:36:25Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Mahaloth did a “head fake.” It’s not clear whether his Accept or Reject was the feigned one. In the event that Group A (Tex, Story, Maha) has THREE Spies, both Story’s accept and TexCat’s Accept were Scummy and we should assume Terminus’ team was UNclean. I was editing my post, with its unlikely cases, and exceeded the 5-minute limit. I wanted to mention that the above possibility, with Group A having 3 Spies and Group C zero seems unlikely and not worth considering, at least until we’re trying to make a 5-player team. I continue to urge my earlier view: Group A has 2 Spies, Groups B and C have 1 Spy each. ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-the-resistance-mafia-like-game/702450/208 "2014-11-12T04:56:18Z")
This game is crazy to me. It seems like everyone is saying “pick my team or I won’t vote for the team” Seems like an easy way for scum to win. How can we decide on a team when EVERYONE has their own idea of who should be on the team. Terminus changed his team to meet the requirements of others and then the others still vetoed it. WTF. I thought he was being exceptionally nice about the whole thing. And then he voted against his team too, bleh. Give me mafia wifom any day vs this. Sha me now Naf. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-the-resistance-mafia-like-game/702450/209 "2014-11-12T05:22:58Z")
> [@sinjin](#): > > This game is crazy to me. It seems like everyone is saying “pick my team or I won’t vote for the team” Seems like an easy way for scum to win. How can we decide on a team when EVERYONE has their own idea of who should be on the team. Terminus changed his team to meet the requirements of others and then the others still vetoed it. WTF. I thought he was being exceptionally nice about the whole thing. And then he voted against his team too, bleh. Give me mafia wifom any day vs this. Sha me now Naf. I like this Game; it’s more interesting and fast-moving than the Mafia games I’ve played. (If everyone were in the same time-zone, maybe it’d be even faster. I might become a night owl again just to play this game. 😉 ) The experienced players have emphasized that Rejections are key to acquiring information. I’d vote Reject now, but am uncertain about the remaining leaders. **sinjin** , will you tell us about your own proposal if the present one is rejected? With the high suspicion on the remaining possible leaders (Hooker, Story), I think there’s an excellent chance you would get your own mission Accepted. ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-the-resistance-mafia-like-game/702450/210 "2014-11-12T05:26:54Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > My segue into “If Terminus’ team was clean” was unclear; I should have started a new paragraph. I was suggesting that Hooker’s scenario was unlikely but if true would imply that Group C has TWO Spies, which increases the chance that Hooker is a Spy, so “blowing smoke.” I suppose it’s barely possible that Mr Shine is a Spy, and the six Townies are Terminus’ team + Hooker + Story but that seems VERY far-fetched. I agree that two spies in A is the more likely scenario, but the other would come up 1 time every 8 times the 2 spy scenario does and cannot be ruled out. I like it because it solves the spies completely, but that’s wishful thinking. I’m not saying the 3 spies scenario is a lock, but it does make the “anomalous yes votes” make perfect sense. If it’s not the case, one anomalous yes is a Resistance member getting played. > [@septimus](#): > > In any case, I’m almost certain that Terminus’ team had at least three Townies. If one of the alternate leaders (Sinjin, Hooker, Story) will commit to proposing a team consisting entirely or almost entirely of the four I find most Townish (Johnny, Terminus, Mr Shine, myself) then I’ll send another changed-my-mind PM to MentalGuy and wait for that proposal. If not, I think the present proposal may be our best hope now, even though I’m only lukewarm on Story. I’d commit to Johnny, Terminus, and you. I’d like to put myself as the fourth, but I fear that would be voted down. I’d be willing to go with Storyteller, but I think that’s a 50/50 shot. ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-the-resistance-mafia-like-game/702450/211 "2014-11-12T05:29:38Z")
I’ll think about Mr Shine. He may be better than Story, but it’s late and I’m too tired to work it through. ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-the-resistance-mafia-like-game/702450/212 "2014-11-12T12:32:17Z")
I think this is a good framework for analysis: > [@septimus](#): > > {Texcat, Storyteller, Mahaloth} [A] > > {Septimus, Terminal Est, Sinjin} \*\* > > {Mr Shine, Stanislaus, Hooker} [C]. and I’m requoting it mainly to remind myself who’s in each group. One big point to note: Johnny Bravo doesn’t appear in any group. I know that’s because septimus, by assuming two spies in A, clears Johnny - but for the sake of completeness, he should appear in group B. Secondly, does nobody else have any concerns about this: > [@septimus](#): > > There is an argument that IF there were two Spies THEN they might have screwed themselves and done a Double-Fail. Valid point, but Double-Fail isn’t that likely if Spies are smart. If each spy Failed with probability 36% there would only be 13% chance of Double-Fail. There would be a 41% chance that the mission would Succeed, but I think Spies would be delighted with that outcome anyway. With no prior discussion, the Spies wouldn’t be able to agree on, say, a 36% mixed strategy. One might pick a chance much higher, the other much lower. _But if you work it out, that would be even better for the Spies._ > > The above analysis about Double-Fail assumes that the Spies do not attempt to communicate in-thread. In fact, _they’re likely to try to communicate and will leave evidence of the fact._ !!! Because were septimus a Spy, I suspect other Spies might take this as guidance on how to address the risks of Double-Fail. The second paragraph (“watch out chaps, they might talk about voting strategies!”) is cute, but come on - it’s not just me, right? ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-the-resistance-mafia-like-game/702450/213 "2014-11-12T13:01:10Z")
> [@HookerChemical](#): > > I’d commit to Johnny, Terminus, and you. I’d like to put myself as the fourth, but I fear that would be voted down. I’ve been thinking about this, and have concluded it’s a better team than the one proposed by Mr. Shine. Even those suspicious of Hooker may agree that the chance Hooker is Spy is less than the chance Story is Spy – not only do we have to worry we’ve guessed which is the only Townie in Group A, we have to worry that ALL THREE in Group A are Spies, and there is no right guess. I hope players will announce whether they’d Accept Hooker’s proposal. I don’t want to Reject Mr. Shine’s mission unless I know Hooker’s will be Accepted by six. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-the-resistance-mafia-like-game/702450/214 "2014-11-12T13:15:38Z")
I’m being strongly reminded of why I failed basic Logic in college. Septimus’s thought process about Mahaloth’s potential stealth communication at least passes the sniff test, and I don’t like that Mr. Shine nominated one of the three people from the first group without any good reason. So I’ll vote to reject this one and I guess we can see if Hooker plays us straight. Fair warning: I am already about 65% lost and that number will only increase as we go deeper down the rabbit hole without any hard evidence. I’m having a lot of trouble tracking the large handful of hypothetical “if-\>then” statements being thrown around. I think that in this particular game the “scum” really benefit from the forum format. More talking just means a worse signal-to-noise ratio for us, since we have no lynches to confirm or deny our theories. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-the-resistance-mafia-like-game/702450/215 "2014-11-12T14:39:55Z")
I agree with Johnny. I think people are making logical houses of cards that I either can’t or won’t follow through and completely analyse. All I can say is that I will reject any proposal by or containing **HookerChemical** ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-the-resistance-mafia-like-game/702450/216 "2014-11-12T17:52:36Z")
> [@Stanislaus](#): > > Secondly, does nobody else have any concerns about this: > > Because were septimus a Spy, I suspect other Spies might take this as guidance on how to address the risks of Double-Fail. The second paragraph (“watch out chaps, they might talk about voting strategies!”) is cute, but come on - it’s not just me, right? Only a very tiny bit. Storyteller and I have already discussed methods spies can use to communicate. Story noted that the spies will find a way to communicate, and I discussed one that is much better suited for TT play where it’s harder to keep track of the exactly what was said. > [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Septimus’s thought process about Mahaloth’s potential stealth communication at least passes the sniff test, and I don’t like that Mr. Shine nominated one of the three people from the first group without any good reason. So I’ll vote to reject this one and I guess we can see if Hooker plays us straight. Sinjin will propose a team as well. There are three more bites at the apple. I’d like to see sinjin propose a team without himself, though. I’d like to see Terminus’s team minus sinjin plus somebody from Group C. On a fail, we would know there is a spy in Group C and who it is. We would also know that there is probably a spy in Group B. If the mission succeeds, we have that success and an indicator that that person from Group C was clean. > [@Mr\_Shine](#): > > I agree with Johnny. I think people are making logical houses of cards that I either can’t or won’t follow through and completely analyse. It is a house of cards, but the only other options are worse. If we don’t assume 2 spies on the first mission, we’re left with no actionable suppositions and no theories to build around. It’s better than Mr Shine, would you commit to a team proposed by me with Johnny, Terminus, spetimus and a fourth member from Group C picked by Johnny if I proposed it? ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-the-resistance-mafia-like-game/702450/217 "2014-11-13T13:06:43Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > I think that in this particular game the “scum” really benefit from the forum format. More talking just means a worse signal-to-noise ratio for us, since we have no lynches to confirm or deny our theories. Well, it’s been pretty quiet. Personally, I don’t think that’s helped me much. Given the paucity of hard data, I think we have to go back to the soft data of who’s saying what to who, and how we feel about that. Dusting off the old Scumdar 5000, in other words. I am getting a really hinky feeling about septimus. We HAVE to assume Mahaloth is a Spy, so we HAVE to assume there were two Spies in mission 1, so somehow we HAVE to assume Mr Shine isn’t a spy. It feels less like a house of cards and more like a shell-game. I further don’t like the way Hooker has dismissed my concerns about septimus laying out an explicit strategy for spies to follow to avoid Double-Failing. Other people have talked about the possibility, sure. But septimus has gone beyond that. I’m almost tempted to Accept this mission because I think there’s a good chance there’s two Spies on it. However, if I’m right then the strategy for dealing with that was already laid out, so I don’t see the benefit. For now, I’m going to vote to reject. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-the-resistance-mafia-like-game/702450/218 "2014-11-13T14:26:54Z")
I honestly don’t understand most of what’s being said in this thread so far. **Septimus** and **HookerChemical** seem to be building complicated arguments with sets of players and if-then statements… but always predicated on some assumption that’s entirely shaky as far as I can tell. I entirely agree, as someone or other noted above, that we need working hypotheses, but that doesn’t mean that _any_ hypothesis will do… and it _certainly_ doesn’t mean that the hypothesis that would be most useful if true should have the advantage. Much of what septimus and HookerChemical are saying starts with the idea that there were two spies on Mission 1. I see no evidence to suggest this. I see much more evidence to suggest only one: 1. Having thought about it, it’s clear that the optimal situation for the Spies is exactly one Spy on a team. The Mission 1 team was accepted rapidly and with minimal “reject” votes, suggesting to me that perhaps the Spies were happy with it because it contained one and only one Spy. If there were two spies on Mission 1, I think there might have been more effort to reject it _by_ the Spies. (Obviously, this is pretty much speculation, but what the hell, right?). 2. There was only one “mission fail” vote. Obviously this could reflect either coordination or just plain luck on the part of two spies, but it certainly doesn’t _disprove_ the one-spy hypothesis. 3. If there are two spies, Texcat’s immediate reaction post-results makes no sense. In such a scenario, she is a spy and so is Mahaloth (you don’t know that for sure, but I do), and yet she quickly jumped to the idea that we would reject all three of us in all future missions… an approach that would badly hurt the Spies if indeed Mahaloth and Texcat were Spies. On the whole, I reject the two-spy hypothesis as less likely than the one-spy hypothesis. I think there was only one, and I provisionally think it was Texcat. * * * I think part of my disconnect is that it’s clear some folks are playing this game as a straight-up logical exercise, trying to brute-force a solution with numbers and such. I don’t think that’s much fun for me personally, and also I’m not good at thinking like that. Trying to identify spies by looking at behavior is more interesting, and more likely to be effective for me personally. So here’s the deal: I think Mahaloth, HookerChemical, septimus, and I are the four players most likely to be Resistance. 1. I know I am. 2. Since I think there was only one spy in Mission 1 and I think it’s Texcat, I’m provisionally clearing Mahaloth. 3. Though I disagree with their approach and their conclusions, Hooker and septimus seem to be earnestly, and in great detail, attempting to solve the game. While it’s possible they’d go to the same lengths to confuse the Resistance as Spies, the tone seems honest and in good faith. Thus the team I am most likely to nominate if I end up as leader will be those four. I would in such a case certainly listen to arguments to swap out one of the other three for another player more likely to be Resistance, but I’ll certainly nominate myself. * * * I have thus far voted to accept every team that’s been nominated (actually, I haven’t yet formally cast a vote at all, but only because I know that counts the same as an acceptance). At this particular moment, I’d reject a team including Texcat but probably would accept anything else; I haven’t yet puzzled out the ideal strategy for deciding whether to accept/reject. ---
**Author:** ![MentalGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/439d5e/32.png) [@MentalGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MentalGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-the-resistance-mafia-like-game/702450/219 "2014-11-13T16:12:27Z")
Here are the votes for Mission 2.2: Terminus Est - reject sinjin - accept Stanislaus - reject TexCat - reject Storyteller - accept HookerChemical - reject Mr Shine - accept Mahaloth - accept Johnny Bravo - reject septimus - accept The vote is 5-5, but a majority is needed to accept. The mission is rejected. The team that was rejected was: Mr Shine Terminus Est storyteller0910 septimus sinjin needs to nominate a team of 4 player to go on a mission (mission 2.3). sinjin please PM your nomination before 10:00 am central time tomorrow (November 14, 2014). ---
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-the-resistance-mafia-like-game/702450/220 "2014-11-13T19:48:23Z")
The results are not inconsistent with the assumption of 2 spies on the first mission. I’d like to see the next team as: Terminus Est septimus Johnny Bravo Me or Stanislaus If this team is not proposed, I’d vote against it and propose it myself if given the opportunity. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-the-resistance-mafia-like-game/702450.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/game-the-resistance-mafia-like-game/702450.md?page=12)